Politics

[Tanks]

Instead of building reservoirs CA built storm drains and sent all that water right into the ocean and then cry when things burn. Real brilliant, people.

City of Long Beach is in the process of building a water treatment plant for the storm drains. We'll pump the water to the treatment plant first.

 

[Tanks]

Since there is so much money in California, maybe they should consider desalination plants? Pump that water to the reservoirs, and create a surplus

Actually, decades ago a desalination plant was built at Santa Barbara, we were involved on the controls side of it. The city promptly mothballed it. Then in 2017 they modernized and reactivated it due to droughts. Today it provides about 30% of the city water supply. The city was lucky in that they kept the permit active as it would be an impossible task in the current environmental regulations to build it from scratch.

 

[spike.t]

These things are totally gone in the head.....bloody frightening to hear what they spout out of their mouths.....

 

[Hunt anything]

I haven’t had time to look at any details but it seems American Airlines has lost an ESG lawsuit. It’s another step in the right direction if true,

 

[WyoBull]

Watching the news and they are interesting several CA govt officials and it is sickening how the finger pointing has begun in earnest.
California residents need to wipe the slate and get rid of all of them.
Unfortunately I doubt that will happen.

 

[Altitude sickness]

I haven’t had time to look at any details but it seems American Airlines has lost an ESG lawsuit. It’s another step in the right direction if true,

This is a very big deal. And could have positive ripple effects

 

[cwpayton]

All the taxes generated in California doesn't alleviate the fact that far left policies created the inability to have an adequate water supply.
Now the taxes of the many, have to pay for the incompetence of an elected few

Maybe those Tennessee hillbillies can send some water over.

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There is quite alot of H 2 0 , maybe more than Ca. even needs, in the Pacific ocean. how far was Malibu from the pacific ? 200yds. QUITE easily accessible if you dont mind driving over the beach, and killing sand fleas.
EASILY clean your pumpers out by running fresh water through them for 10 min. why I bet TANKS COULD set up with the necessary equipment every mile or two., They could catch excess run off used on fire in small street ponds and haul it back down to the pacific ocean and would be a win, win for the fishies of the deep blue sea.
Might be hard on the lawns and shrubs but theres always a trade off to live in Malibu or Palisades.
Hire D E I and get some white male heterosexual fire fighters to equal out to the population.

 

[steve white]

The problem was not just the water supply per se. It was a multitude of things. First, there was no clearing of brush etc. as Feds found a mouse that was being impacted so they forbid clearing it. Second a local reservoir was empty due to repairs on its cover (idiotic, why do it during fire season). Third billions of gallons of water were available at other reservoirs but LADWP for years have neglected upgrading pump stations for specifically for this type of event.

One of my electrical subs sent all their people to LA to hook up temporary generators to pump stations as they were lacking even that capability. We have a contract with another municipality to put in place the capability to hook up temporary generators for storm stations as they realized in recent years Edison is unreliable.

But you are right overall, LA officials had other priorities.

So a mouse can still stall a water project WHEN EVERYTHING IS KILLED BENEATH A SOLAR FARM! Sounds a bit selective politically.

 

[steve white]

You are missing the point completely...

Your comment about how America has treated the "indigenous" people (meaning the American Indian) was obviously meant as a slight inferring what you see as America's unique penchant for cruelty or brutality which is utter nonsense...

My point, and I believe Scott's point was that America is often framed as some sort of brutal conqueror by those who have a very narrow or naive understanding of world history... America settled no differently than any other country on the planet... Every single country and culture in existence today was created as a result of war and brutality.... Yes, wars have consequences and human beings suffer cruel and brutal hardships in the process... This is a world-wide reality of all men past and present, and not one unique to America... The responsibility is one of human nature, not one of citizenship...

America haters are always trying to historically portray America as the only civilization that ever waged war on another country... They do the same thing with the concept of slavery suggesting that it's an American-born concept neglecting to mention that it has existed since the dawn of man and practiced by nearly every race and culture for thousands of years long before America was even a settlement...

Does anyone ever take note that over 70% (and I'm being generous) of the slave trade from Africa to the "new world" ended up SOUTH of the United States and Canada!? Anyone marching in the streets for reparations from the Caribbean to Brazil? No....

 

[Hunt anything]

So a mouse can still stall a water project WHEN EVERYTHING IS KILLED BENEATH A SOLAR FARM! Sounds a bit selective politically.

The Mighty Mouse is All powerful, I don’t know how many projects the Alabama beach mouse has stalled here on the coast. There are some hoops to get around them but they are expensive.

 

[Hunt anything]

Does anyone ever take note that over 70% (and I'm being generous) of the slave trade from Africa to the "new world" ended up SOUTH of the United States and Canada!? Anyone marching in the streets for reparations from the Caribbean to Brazil? No....

You are correct, the Portuguese imported the vast majority of Africans to the new world to Brazil.

The information is probably out there somewhere but I would guess that the majority of slaves in the states were born here to Africans brought over and then had kids and so on. But that is only a guess on my part.

 

[Hunt anything]

Not Trump specifically but Federal government for disaster relief, which is one of the jobs of the Feds that both the left and right agree on. Also, Biden already announced relief.

And I’d submit that those impacted in CA paid heck a lot more in taxes than those that were impacted by the hurricanes on the East coast recently. CA as the highest tax paying State does subsidize a lot of the red states. I’d think tech bros of CA might pay heck a lot more in taxes than the hillbillies of TN.

Also a lot of the moronic policies are implemented by the forest service as well which is a Federal entity. Not to say locals weren’t moronic over the years either.

By shear numbers the Californians do pay for a lot of other states but the federal tax rates are the same for everyone in each bracket or am I missing something?

Not all wildfires can be prevented but the severity can be lessened by good forestry practices as stated. You can almost predict areas that will be hit with a fire by just looking at them. As for us rednecks and hillbillies we pay what the government demands and expect a good return for our dollar.

 

[Corey0372]

You are correct, the Portuguese imported the vast majority of Africans to the new world to Brazil.

The information is probably out there somewhere but I would guess that the majority of slaves in the states were born here to Africans brought over and then had kids and so on. But that is only a guess on my part.

It would probably be hard to nail down exact numbers on how many were born versus brought in on ships, but the importation of slaves was banned in the US in 1808. Another important point that I think is overlooked is that we weren't actually The United States of America until either 1776 or 1783 (depending on when you want to consider the colonies as independent). Either way, slavery only existed in "The United States of America" for less than a century, which when compared to all other nations and civilizations in history isn't that long. Slavery also didn't exist in all US States by the start of the Civil War.

 

[Tanks]

Not all wildfires can be prevented but the severity can be lessened by good forestry practices as stated. You can almost predict areas that will be hit with a fire by just looking at them. …

Back in 2019 Trump, after another fire, mentioned it with Newsom standing right next to him.

 

[flying sailor]

Since there is so much money in California, maybe they should consider desalination plants? Pump that water to the reservoirs, and create a surplus

If memory serves correctly, in the 70's parts of CA had partially built a desal plant, decided to stop the work and sold all of the equipment to Saudi Arabia, not 100 per cent sure on customer. Great move , huh? Someone needs to look this up, thanks.

 

[Red Leg]

You are correct, the Portuguese imported the vast majority of Africans to the new world to Brazil.

The information is probably out there somewhere but I would guess that the majority of slaves in the states were born here to Africans brought over and then had kids and so on. But that is only a guess on my part.

I was in Brazil for a military goodwill visit in 2000. We were hosted in Manaus at the Jungle Warfare School, in Brasilia (should you wonder where all the East German architects found their inspiration), and of course Rio. At every senior meeting, whether military or government, we were lectured on Brazil's multi-cultural society where prejudice and racism were unknown.

The odd thing was that everyone, military or civilian, evoking Brazilian egalitarianism looked European. Meanwhile, surrounding Rio and other major cities, are the Favelas. They are impoverished slums covering tens of square miles on the hillsides around the city. About 65% of those areas have basic sanitation, power, and water. Those residents are distinctly darker than their governmental and business counterparts.

 

[Tanks]

The odd thing was that everyone, military or civilian, evoking Brazilian egalitarianism looked European. Meanwhile, surrounding Rio and other major cities, are the Favelas. They are impoverished slums covering tens of square miles on the hillsides around the city. About 65% of those areas have basic sanitation, power, and water. Those residents are distinctly darker than their governmental and business counterparts.

Back in the 90s I did a steel mill upgrade and two glass factories in Brazil, spent lots of time there. I got introduced to this tall, blonde woman who kept me company. Her father was a general that had a villa at Rio. He could have been cast as a German general on a WW II flick.

 

[Manwe]

Back in 2019 Trump, after another fire, mentioned it with Newsom standing right next to him.

Gavin should resign, Won't bring the city back but at least maybe the people of CA will grow some senses.

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

I’m not soft on crime.

I’m pro Constitution. Most soft on crime jurisdictions are anti Constitution. What I am is Anti Bad Cop.

Violating the Constitution makes one a Bad Cop. My rights are more important than the life of any badge toter.

What I am is anti bad criminal, wherever that may be in the world. Just watch some clips of the abuse the police receive from bad actors, for example on traffic stops, it must take all the control they have not to lose it. Then look at the statistics of the police killed in the line of duty. They do an enormous amount for little or no gratitude, and even a put down from people like you.

 

[1dirthawker]

The city was lucky in that they kept the permit active as it would be an impossible task in the current environmental regulations to build it from scratch.

@Tanks,

i think that is the actual problem. the current environmental regulations have created several of the issues regarding the fires in LA. unfortunately it seems that many in CA keep electing officials that make these stupid/horrible/overly bureaucratic decisions. i hope they get it figured out for the future.