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Everyone is talking about the 2 carrier battle groups cruising in from the med (6th Fleet)...

Dont forget we have 2 carriers and a total of 20 warships, 20,000 Marines, etc.. assigned to the 5th Fleet.. whose primary responsibility is the Persian Gulf (much closer to Iran).. No one seems to be talking about where those ships are currently sailing..

It would be a stretch for aircraft to make it to Iran from one of the two 6th Fleet Carriers that everyone is focused on.. (also almost impossible for Israeli aircraft to make it to Iran from land bases in Israel without significant external support (i.e. US or Euro tankers and other "things" we probably shouldnt talk about)..)...

5th Fleet is something entirely different though..

If Iran gets openly stupid.. the pain they'd experience would likely be incredibly high.. and incredibly swift..

Theyll continue to play in the shadows and send money, provide training, sneak in munitions, provide intelligence, etc.. and they'll continue with rhetoric and saber rattling..

But I dont think theyre stupid enough to go much further than that right now.. they have little to gain.. and A LOT to lose..
Iran has exactly two oil export terminals. One is located Kharg and a new one at Jask. Karj is in the Straights of Hormuz and Jask is to its east on the Gulf of Oman. Either can be shut down by the 5th Fleet until the 5th Fleet decides they may reopen.

In an initial attack on Iran most of the strikes won't be delivered by manned aircraft. Those same missile cruisers and destroyers protecting the task forces are also carrying significant inventories of cruise missiles configured for land attack. both fleets can easily range target sets in Iran with them. Unlike a Hamas rocket they carry a substantial warhead and will fly into a target the size of an open mailbox.
 
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No more complicated than 20-25 swampy RINOS. Jordan is a fiscal conservative, therefore the enemy of swampy RINOS who are addicted to pork money and lobby money for perpetual power and campaign funding. RINOS are the most despicable of any political subspecies because they are deceitful liars who run on and get elected on the conservative platform of the party then play games like two-year-olds. It is not complicated
 
By the way, what is the consensus upon why Israel is delaying it’s ground operation into Gaza?

My gut tells there must be some consideration from Israel to attack Iran before a land invasion into Gaza, and cut the head off the snake.
 
By the way, what is the consensus upon why Israel is delaying it’s ground operation into Gaza?
Biden. Getting on the plane somewhere he was asked if the delay was to get more hostages out.

Here is the predictable walk back and protection of the idiot in chief.
 
Biden. Getting on the plane somewhere he was asked if the delay was to get more hostages out.

Here is the predictable walk back and protection of the idiot in chief.
What a noodle this man is, a dangerous noodle.
 
The thing that makes no sense to me is all the talk about preventing Iran from developing a nuclear bomb & delivery system. If what we hear is true that Iran has good relations with Russia, China & North Korea and Iran has borders adjacent to two of them, what's to stop Russia or China from loading a few nukes on a truck and driving them across the border to Iran?
I’ve wondered that myself
 
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Nuclear material can be traced back to source. The Atomic commission also keeps track of the amount of nukes and fissionable material every country has. Neither Russia, North Korea or China want to be accomplices to a nuclear attack. They won't want to be in the firing line, figuratively or literally, when the world comes asking.
 
I’ve wondered that myself

Nuclear material can be traced back to source. The Atomic commission also keeps track of the amount of nukes and fissionable material every country has. Neither Russia, North Korea or China want to be accomplices to a nuclear attack. They won't want to be in the firing line, figuratively or literally, when the world comes asking.
(y) I read on further. Obvious reasons that it didn’t occur to me to think of
 
Another of these interesting short clips that speaks volumes, particularly to members like @mdwest @sierraone @Ray B and @Mark A Ouellette who have seen small unit action. Based on the losses Russian units have suffered, this is likely a platoon (-). It is like watching the Keystone cops - a small miracle one or two of them weren't caught in the tracks. By the way, this is an "elite" airborne unit judging by the armored fighting vehicle which is a BMD-4 and is only used by the VDV.

From a tactical perspective it is also an indecipherable action. Troops are scattered over half a kilometer to no apparent purpose as the the BMD-4 then races toward a dug-in Ukrainian position. It is hit first by a SMART artillery round first (you can see the air burst that creates the explosively formed penetrator) and then by an anti-tank missile of some sort - the explosive jet blows through the length of the vehicle.

As a military professional looking at this, I can not begin to get my head around the intent of this small unit attack. Whatever it was, a unit like this was clearly inadequately trained to understand or execute it.

 

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