Politics

[Tbitty]

All Americans: Get out and Vote today, if you haven't already. Regardless of where you live, or how easy or difficult you think it will be for your candidate(s) to win, it is as important as ever to let your voice be heard at the voting booth.

 

[spike.t]

BBC News - Trudeau accuses China of 'aggressive' election interference

Trudeau accuses China of 'aggressive' election interference

It follows reports that Canada has identified 11 Beijing-funded candidates at the 2019 elections.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[spike.t]

Biden’s and Trump’s Performances on the 2022 Trail Sow Doubts About 2024

Members of both parties are notably lukewarm about their presidential frontrunners.

www.politico.com

 

[OldnLazy]

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Disaster of the century.

 

[Red Leg]

Biden’s and Trump’s Performances on the 2022 Trail Sow Doubts About 2024

Members of both parties are notably lukewarm about their presidential frontrunners.

www.politico.com

Good article. Politico is perceived to have a moderate left bias, but this is a pretty fair analysis for them. I totally agree with James Carville's quote at the end. “We got to find somebody under 75 who can run this country.” That makes two things about which I agree with Carville. The other is LSU football.

 

[BSO Dave]

Biden’s and Trump’s Performances on the 2022 Trail Sow Doubts About 2024​

Members of both parties are notably lukewarm about their presidential frontrunners. www.politico.com

Politico is a lefty propaganda outlet rather than a serious unbiased news source, so it's no surprise they are spinning this as if there is controversy among the republican voters.

The article cites the supposed opinions of U.S. Senators which are completely irrelevant anyway. They do not elect U.S. Presidents, the voters do, and the latest Quinnipiac Poll done on 10/22/22 reflects that 78% of republican voters want Trump to run again. That's up 14 points from an earlier poll done in 05/22. Point being Trump's support to run in 2024 is actually growing among republican voters. That being said, a LOT can happen in a 2-year span.. Just look at the disaster that America has experienced in the last 20 months..

Regardless, this is ALL irrelevant if the republicans do not retake both houses in these mid-terms. The damage done by the current Administration over the next 2 years will most likely be irrevocable by then regardless of who runs in 2024..

 

[RTG]

Good article. Politico is perceived to have a moderate left bias, but this is a pretty fair analysis for them. I totally agree with James Carville's quote at the end. “We got to find somebody under 75 who can run this country.” That makes two things about which I agree with Carville. The other is LSU football.

Carville didn't say that prior to Biden's election, even during the Democrat primary. He never says a word publicly that isn't strategically aligned with democrat plans.

 

[Boyd Brooks]

BBC News - Trudeau accuses China of 'aggressive' election interference

Trudeau accuses China of 'aggressive' election interference

It follows reports that Canada has identified 11 Beijing-funded candidates at the 2019 elections.

www.bbc.co.uk

Don’t no what he’s complaining about it got him re-elected. Justin Castro love’s all the dictators of the world!

 

[steve white]

It would be worth it! People can change jobs. Imagine a world with 99% less crime. Just the savings in insurance premiums alone. Not to mention the untold billions passed onto consumers to cover petty theft, shop lifting, etc.

It would be fun to have catapults to toss them out of the US into the Rio Grand or Mexico, deportation.

 

[Ray B]

I agree with Carville. LSU football.

Just another NFL farm team - a AAA farm team, but still, a farm team.

 

[Red Leg]

Politico is a lefty propaganda outlet rather than a serious unbiased news source, so it's no surprise they are spinning this as if there is controversy among the republican voters.

The article cites the supposed opinions of U.S. Senators which are completely irrelevant anyway. They do not elect U.S. Presidents, the voters do, and the latest Quinnipiac Poll done on 10/22/22 reflects that 78% of republican voters want Trump to run again. That's up 14 points from an earlier poll done in 05/22. Point being Trump's support to run in 2024 is actually growing among republican voters. That being said, a LOT can happen in a 2-year span.. Just look at the disaster that America has experienced in the last 20 months..

Regardless, this is ALL irrelevant if the republicans do not retake both houses in these mid-terms. The damage done by the current Administration over the next 2 years will most likely be irrevocable by then regardless of who runs in 2024..

Then let's look at some more numbers from that same poll (August 31). It also shows that Americans do not want him to run by a 62 - 33% margin. The same poll says fully half the electorate want him prosecuted! Hardly the sort of numbers to garner enough independents to win a general election regardless what Republicans may think. I truly believe we would be throwing away the presidential election and whatever gains we achieve today if we walk the gangplank with this man in '24.

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A July 12 NY Times poll has him at 49% and DeSantis at 25% with the remainder spread across the field. Yes, I know, the NY Times. But they have little love for DeSantis either.

We'll see. If Trump announces in the next couple of weeks, then we will likely know DeSantis's intent by summer. He'll thoroughly test his traction over the spring.

I absolutely agree with you that we had better take both houses this election. The house alone can gum up an agenda, but not having the senate would mean a continuing pollution of our judiciary and a growing menagerie of misfits in appointed positions across the bureaucracy.

 

[BSO Dave]

Quinnipiac Poll done on 10/22/22 reflects that 78% of republican voters want Trump to run again. That's up 14 points from an earlier poll done in 05/22.

Correcting my own mistake.. The polls I referred to were taken on 05/21 and 10/21 respectively..

Of the 6 major polls taken since 08/22, the average is still about 65% of republican voters supporting Trump for a 2024 run which is still a remarkable indicator of who controls the republican voter base.

I would add that I too was extremely disappointed to see Trump go after DeSantis like he did. There has never been a more critical time for conservatives to come together and show a united front in these mid-terms, and Trump throwing shade on DeSantis was unfortunately divisive and ill-timed. My prediction is that he is going to catch a lot of backlash especially from Florida conservatives who love DeSantis and would actually like to see a Trump-backed DeSantis run in 2024..

 

[Red Leg]

Correcting my own mistake.. The polls I referred to were taken on 05/21 and 10/21 respectively..

Of the 6 major polls taken since 08/22, the average is still about 65% of republican voters supporting Trump for a 2024 run..

I think your numbers are about right. The 31 Aug 22 poll has it 72 - 25 among Republicans that he should run.

Just where do we get the independent vote to a win a general looking at his overall rating of whether or not he should run.

 

[steve white]

Good article. Politico is perceived to have a moderate left bias, but this is a pretty fair analysis for them. I totally agree with James Carville's quote at the end. “We got to find somebody under 75 who can run this country.” That makes two things about which I agree with Carville. The other is LSU football.

LSU has a lot of loyalty...a group of Cajuns were discussing a son who wanted to go to LSU while the friends recommended SM&U law school. They argued, "Don't you know that at LS&U, they let the boys and girls matriculate togetha? And they both got to use the same refectory?" No way! "You call 'um." Ole dad did and came back with a long face..."You were right," he said, "but I'm still goin to let my boy go to LS&U--hell, I was young once myself."

 

[RTG]

Look up polls from 2016 and see how much worse Trump's numbers were reported to be. Most news firms use polls to shape public opinion, not report it.

Ask these same democrats if DeSantis should be charged with crimes. I'll bet good money most will say yes to that also. These are sheep after all.

Directly after the US attacked Tora Bora (where most believed Bin Laden had been killed) Carville and Stan Greenberg released a memo to democrat party insiders and media heads, that Bush favorably was too high and had to be brought down. They were panicked by the idea that Bin Laden might have been killed and what that would mean to Bush's reelection campaign.

Directly following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Carville's only thoughts were how to harm republicans and help the democrat party. Now some 'republicans' are on his side with regards to trump? Think that through, people!

When has Carville ever advocated anything that would benefit the country at the expense of his party? Never. Not once!

If they thought Trump was damaged goods and couldn't win, they would be telling us to support him.

 

[Tanner Lee]

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This makes more sense then anything she has every said.

 

[BSO Dave]

Just where do we get the independent vote to a win a general looking at his overall rating of whether or not he should run.

Great question.. A year ago, I would have said a 2024 Trump run paired with a more likeable, less controversial heir like DeSantis, or even a Tim Scott would appeal to the independents. But now, I tend to agree that the independent block would not support an aging, Trump or any older candidate for that matter. Biden has ruined it for the old guys and rightfully so...

I think one of the younger, less abrasive America-First republicans wins 2024 easily with a Trump endorsement.. I honestly believe the base as well as independents would get on board, but getting Trump to concede is the problem.. But, a lot can happen in 2 years...

 

[Brent in Az]

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[jeanes]

For what its worth, I think Trump's legacy, and the country, would be better served if he would adopt the role of elder statesman and push younger candidates who would implement his policies. I hope his ego would allow him to do this. I personally don't have too much problem with antics or name calling as long as I see positive results of policies. Still, politics is the art of manipulation and getting people to support your policies is easier if you don't alienate them. Also, its time for younger blood to be introduced into government, and I say that as someone who was born in the first half of the last century.

 

[Brent in Az]

The Republicans need to eject the old guard out of the GOP.

IF....the Republican's retake the Senate, they cant allow Mitch McConnell to be majority leader. He is a big part of the problem.