Politics

[Jfet]

The U.S. Neutrality Acts of the 1930’s

Milestones in the History of U.S. Foreign Relations - Office of the Historian

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history.state.gov

 

[Newboomer]

Elon Musk’s SpaceX has said it cannot afford to continue to donate satellite internet to Ukraine and has asked the US government to pick up the bill, according to a report, as the relationship between the billionaire and Kyiv breaks down.
“We are not in a position to further donate terminals to Ukraine, or fund the existing terminals for an indefinite period of time,

the request for funding comes after a high-profile intervention from Musk, who suggested Ukraine should seek an end to the war by surrendering territory to Russia and committing to remain “neutral”. His tweets led to a furious reaction from the Ukrainian government, which had previously praised Musk for offering the Starlink system.

“F##k off is my very diplomatic reply to you,” tweeted Andrij Melnyk, the Ukrainian ambassador to Germany. “The only outcome is that now no Ukrainian will EVER buy your f…ing Tesla crap. So good luck to you.”

In response to a suggestion that Musk was threatening to withdraw Starlink because of Melnyk’s words, the SpaceX chief executive tweeted this morning that “we’re just following his recommendation ‍”.

Elon Musk’s SpaceX says it can no longer fund Starlink internet in Ukraine

Firm reportedly asks US government to pick up bill as relationship between Musk and Kyiv breaks down

www.theguardian.com

Elon Musk placed temporarily on notorious Ukrainian kill list?; The Myrotvorets list

https://twitter.com/x/status/1581027630819979264

apparently the list is true and Elons name was taken down after approximately 15 minutes

Миротворец

Центр исследования признаков преступлений против национальной безопасности Украины, мира, безопасности человечества и международного правопорядка.

myrotvorets.center

seems innocent enough dont you think? LOL

pink floyds Roger Waters made it onto this list for not following the pro Ukraine narrative
Waters said: "I'm on the f**king list, and they've killed people recently. When they kill you, they write 'liquidated' across your picture. Well, I'm one of those f**king pictures."

Fact check: Did Ukraine put Pink Floyd's Roger Waters on "kill list"?

Roger Waters claimed to be on a "kill list that is supported by the Ukrainian government." But is he right?

www.newsweek.com

as well as Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard have made the list

Sounds like the commucrats: going after anuone who doesn't agree with them.

 

[jpr9954]

 

[ActionBob]

Elon Musk’s SpaceX has said it cannot afford to continue to donate satellite internet to Ukraine and has asked the US government to pick up the bill, according to a report, as the relationship between the billionaire and Kyiv breaks down.
“We are not in a position to further donate terminals to Ukraine, or fund the existing terminals for an indefinite period of time,

the request for funding comes after a high-profile intervention from Musk, who suggested Ukraine should seek an end to the war by surrendering territory to Russia and committing to remain “neutral”. His tweets led to a furious reaction from the Ukrainian government, which had previously praised Musk for offering the Starlink system.

“F##k off is my very diplomatic reply to you,” tweeted Andrij Melnyk, the Ukrainian ambassador to Germany. “The only outcome is that now no Ukrainian will EVER buy your f…ing Tesla crap. So good luck to you.”

In response to a suggestion that Musk was threatening to withdraw Starlink because of Melnyk’s words, the SpaceX chief executive tweeted this morning that “we’re just following his recommendation ‍”.

Elon Musk’s SpaceX says it can no longer fund Starlink internet in Ukraine

Firm reportedly asks US government to pick up bill as relationship between Musk and Kyiv breaks down

www.theguardian.com

Elon Musk placed temporarily on notorious Ukrainian kill list?; The Myrotvorets list

https://twitter.com/x/status/1581027630819979264

apparently the list is true and Elons name was taken down after approximately 15 minutes

Миротворец

Центр исследования признаков преступлений против национальной безопасности Украины, мира, безопасности человечества и международного правопорядка.

myrotvorets.center

seems innocent enough dont you think? LOL

pink floyds Roger Waters made it onto this list for not following the pro Ukraine narrative
Waters said: "I'm on the f**king list, and they've killed people recently. When they kill you, they write 'liquidated' across your picture. Well, I'm one of those f**king pictures."

Fact check: Did Ukraine put Pink Floyd's Roger Waters on "kill list"?

Roger Waters claimed to be on a "kill list that is supported by the Ukrainian government." But is he right?

www.newsweek.com

as well as Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard have made the list

At least in the case of Musk, talk about biting the hand that feeds you! It sure sounds like his generous donation of Starlink use has made about as big a difference in that war as anything. Seems reasonable to ask for help covering the cost. Pretty unreasonable to expect one person to keep funding $20 million per month! Even if he is the richest man in the World. It really is not his fight nor his responsibility. Then to be told to f#*k off and put him on some some liquidation list by the same people he is helping! Ridiculous behavior.

 

[PARA45]

 

[Wheels]

+1

And I might add that the ignore function works quite well here. We are told that we should listen to others opinions, and that's true to a point, but only to a point.

Which reminds me. Your posts are showing up on my feed again. How do I put you on ignore?

 

[ActionBob]

Vietnam was about oil

No it wasn't. It was about the Shrimp! Just watch Forest Gump, Bubba explains it all

 

[Hunter4752001]

To give him credit, Musk has stated today that he will keep funding the Starlink facility to Ukraine out of his own pocket. In general I find a lot to admire in the individual. Unfortunately, like a lot of other high performance individuals, he frequently gets a bit random and overestimates his own importance.

 

[PARA45]

 

[Major Bonkers]

An interesting take on the Russian regular solders' view of the conscripts (from the 'Meduza' website): https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/28/honestly-they-re-all-going-to-die-there

 

[Royal27]

Which reminds me. Your posts are showing up on my feed again. How do I put you on ignore?

Geez man.... Do I have to do everything for you?

Sigh.... Let me know when you want me to come to your house so I can put myself back on ignore for you.

 

[jpr9954]

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

+1

And I might add that the ignore function works quite well here. We are told that we should listen to others opinions, and that's true to a point, but only to a point.

+1

 

[steve white]

+1

That's also what moderators are for...

 

[Royal27]

The European plan of energy dependence worked out so well that Biden's handlers are seeking to emulate it.

How quickly everyone forgets that Europe had its own energy in the not so distant past, not to even mention the abandonment of nuclear energy.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499386637066727424

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

Ok, now we are back to normal, I have been trying to keep up with the Ukraine-Russia situation on ISW, and it looks like a bit of a stalemate. Is it likely that Ukraine can gain the initiative again? @Red Leg what is your take please?
Also, there are a few rumblings from Russia about talks, is this serious?

 

[Tundra Tiger]

A question for folks in the south. I read an article that a Libertarian from GA could affect the Warnock/Walker race. I did not previously know that. What's the mood down there? This is just my opinion (and I admit I haven't studied it super close): I don't think Walker is navigating things near as well as he did defensive players on the field. It feels to me like his campaign could have been handled better. Forgive the pun, but I could see a fumble at the goal line. I hope I am wrong.

 

[Royal27]

Ok, now we are back to normal, I have been trying to keep up with the Ukraine-Russia situation on ISW, and it looks like a bit of a stalemate. Is it likely that Ukraine can gain the initiative again? @Red Leg what is your take please?
Also, there are a few rumblings from Russia about talks, is this serious?

I am NOT the war expert. But I will say this, most things ebb and flow and go in cycles. I wouldn't read too much into a slowing of recent advances anymore than I would have said during the summer that the Ukrainians were doomed.

What will be more interesting to me will be to see if the Ukrainians try another significant move with winter coming, or during the winter?

 

[Royal27]

A question for folks in the south. I read an article that a Libertarian from GA could affect the Warnock/Walker race. I did not previously know that. What's the mood down there? This is just my opinion (and I admit I haven't studied it super close): I don't think Walker is navigating things near as well as he did defensive players on the field. It feels to me like his campaign could have been handled better. Forgive the pun, but I could see a fumble at the goal line. I hope I am wrong.

Last I saw the third party was 4%, so in a close race.... Could at least send it to runoff.

Trying to remain objective, and although I've followed the race I haven't followed super closely, it seems that both sides have made some flubs. It may very well just come down to which candidate for governor has the longest coattails.

 

[Tundra Tiger]

Well, Abrams is really short, so if the jackets are of like size, she'd seem to have the advantage.