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You have a little clique here and like to attack personally. It doesn't bother me. The issue is most of you are not imformed, I am. The irony is rich.


I'll bite...

How exactly are you informed? what are your sources of information? and why exactly does your opinion on anything matter?

You discount the value of commentary offered by a retired flag officer of the US military when the discussion is about military strategy... you poo-poo the offerings of a retired senior executive from the ag industry when the discussion is agriculture... there are multiple career oil and gas folks on the board, but you seem to think you know more about the global oil and gas industry than anyone else... there are multiple career defense sector folks here.. but you appear to believe you know more about the defense industry than others... there are also people that have spent their entire adult lives dealing with global geo-politics.. but you appear to believe you know more about geo-politics than anyone else here as well...

Are you a subject matter expert in any of these fields? experienced in any of these fields? educated in any of these fields?

please explain why anyone on AH should care about your positions and opinions? why do you think you bring value to any of these conversations?
 
lol, okie dokie. Somebody posted earlier they would be gone in 60 years on their own. You might want to read up on China.
I’m very aware of the Chinese threat. I’ve traveled all over China and Tibet. Have you?

As for Russia, so someone posted earlier that they will be gone in 60 years all on their own and so you run with that as a fact and know that that is absolutely going to happen? It becomes one of your talking points? A reason to not take them down several notches now?
 
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You have a little clique here and like to attack personally. It doesn't bother me. The issue is most of you are not imformed, I am. The irony is rich.
I swore I was done with you. But that might be the single most ridiculous and yet revealing thing you have said yet. As @WAB and @mdwest have noted, there are people here who have vast life experience in the issues and places about which you are only able to offer someone else's talking points. And you seem proudly to have no interest in those truly informed opinions. That is the worst sort of ignorance. But please do feel free revel in it.
 
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I find that this forum has an amazing cross section of culture, expertise, and experiences all brought together through the common interest of hunting. As a result, respectful debates are common and much fact and information can be extracted and vetted. Usually very enlightening.
It always bugs me when someone gets defensive and starts spitting at people as soon as they are presented with facts that may dispute their own. That's when the respectful debate ends and no one learns a thing. It's amazing (and disappointing) how anyone can get into the "I'm right and everyone else is wrong" mode. That is a person that stops learning the instant their opinion is formed and will then only read or discuss information that's supports that opinion...therefore rendering them useless in the debate. And then claim to be attacked. A "clique"? Please. Grow up.
Sadly, I have now found a use for the ignore button.

Edit: I find the the modern woke democrat epitomizes the above traits.
 
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@Nature Boy

“If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

― Winston S. Churchill


@375 Ruger Fan what a great and timely post! The blanket provided spoils us as Americans. European countries take advantage of it as well and I think we all agree they should do more. We are seeing them slowly wake up to this realization.
 
I'll bite...

How exactly are you informed? what are your sources of information? and why exactly does your opinion on anything matter?

You discount the value of commentary offered by a retired flag officer of the US military when the discussion is about military strategy... you poo-poo the offerings of a retired senior executive from the ag industry when the discussion is agriculture... there are multiple career oil and gas folks on the board, but you seem to think you know more about the global oil and gas industry than anyone else... there are multiple career defense sector folks here.. but you appear to believe you know more about the defense industry than others... there are also people that have spent their entire adult lives dealing with global geo-politics.. but you appear to believe you know more about geo-politics than anyone else here as well...

Are you a subject matter expert in any of these fields? experienced in any of these fields? educated in any of these fields?

please explain why anyone on AH should care about your positions and opinions? why do you think you bring value to any of these conversations?
I listed facts. We were buying Russian goods and imo will do that again. The biggest import we get from Ukraine is ferrous metals, we can get them from other places (and likely produce at home). Thus, I'm not seeing any direct threat to the USA that requires our military involvement. If it is that dire you would think the NATO "allies" would be ramped up and ready to go vs buy all their energy from Russia. Using a minor detail to discredit an argument is child's play to me. It tells me you have lost as does name calling.

I have respect for our military, especially the grunt soldier. I have less respect for the higher ups as they are politicians and thus act exactly the same way out polks do.

"More than 1,700 former acquisition officials, general officers and other senior employees who left the Defense Department in recent years have gone on to work for major defense contractors, the Government Accountability Office, or GAO, found."

"A report released Monday by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and the Brave New Foundation found that 70 percent of retired three-and-four star generals took jobs with defense contractors or consultants, a figure that has actually declined in recent years."
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Nothing to see here! Again, I want a strong military but to not admit it's out of hand is lol. They approved bilaterally MORE than biden wanted last time around. In the meantime, we are 30 trillion in debt and imo about to go into aserious recession. Raising rates is gonna burden the debt payments on that to a level we can not literally pay at some point per the CBO. But yeah., 40B here and 40B there, what's the big deal? I mean things are great at home, right?

"In the U.S., many airports are more than 40 years old. In fact, Denver International Airport (DEN) was the last new major airport built … in 1995.Mar 13, 2020"

That measily 40B likely builds 4 new major airports, maybe some bridges, roads. I'm not asking yu to do anything with my comments other than allow unpopular opinions to be stated. Those same military "experts" had us in Afghanistan for 20 years at a cost of thousands of lives and trillion s of dollars we don't have. How'd that work out? How about Iraq? Ya know, the country we can't get any oil from even though we liberated them and stopped a "bad guy". Maybe Vietnam? Maybe Somalia where my friend was one of the guys in Blackhawk Down and is still not right.

It's just my opinion and you do not have to agree with it or anything else. I don't buy the official narrative on Russia-Ukraine and never will. There are lots of deals going down and people getting rich. Especially the defense contractors, getting rich on the blood of mostly poor kids and the US taxpayer. Read about Haliburton back 20 years ago, tell me that was fair. Tell me why leaving the Taliban 80B in weapons is smart?
 
Grow up.
Sadly, I have now found a use for the ignore button.
The majority of past few pages of posts can best be summed up with you post.

Opinions are like assholes- everyone has one.
And everyone is well entitled to an opinion and I advocate for them to support their stances. But when it comes to personal attacks, ignorance of facts (or arguing facts with alternate viewpoint opinion), and otherwise complete disregard for others opinions and viewpoints, then it is no longer worth discussing.
 
I’m very aware of the Chinese threat. I’ve traveled all over China and Tibet. Have you?

As for Russia, so someone posted earlier that they will be gone in 60 years all on their own and so you run with that as a fact and know that that is absolutely going to happen? It becomes one of your talking points? A reason to not take them down several notches now?
No, I have not. I suppose that means I have nary a clue on that? Well, maybe Michael Pillsbury does? Read his book "The 100 Year Marathon"
 
I'll bite...

How exactly are you informed? what are your sources of information? and why exactly does your opinion on anything matter?

You discount the value of commentary offered by a retired flag officer of the US military when the discussion is about military strategy... you poo-poo the offerings of a retired senior executive from the ag industry when the discussion is agriculture... there are multiple career oil and gas folks on the board, but you seem to think you know more about the global oil and gas industry than anyone else... there are multiple career defense sector folks here.. but you appear to believe you know more about the defense industry than others... there are also people that have spent their entire adult lives dealing with global geo-politics.. but you appear to believe you know more about geo-politics than anyone else here as well...

Are you a subject matter expert in any of these fields? experienced in any of these fields? educated in any of these fields?

please explain why anyone on AH should care about your positions and opinions? why do you think you bring value to any of these conversations?
Because he read about it somewhere. Lol.
 
I find that this forum has an amazing cross section of culture, expertise, and experiences all brought together through the common interest of hunting. As a result, respectful debates are common and much fact and information can be extracted and vetted. Usually very enlightening.
It always bugs me when someone gets defensive and starts spitting at people as soon as they are presented with facts that may dispute their own. That's when the respectful debate ends and no one learns a thing. It's amazing (and disappointing) how anyone can get into the "I'm right and everyone else is wrong" mode. That is a person that stops learning the instant their opinion is formed and will then only read or discuss information that's supports that opinion...therefore rendering them useless in the debate. And then claim to be attacked. A "clique"? Please. Grow up.
Sadly, I have now found a use for the ignore button.

Edit: I find the the modern woke democrat epitomizes the above traits.
I agree, interesting that you ignore all other posts
 
The majority of past few pages of posts can best be summed up with you post.

Opinions are like assholes- everyone has one.
And everyone is well entitled to an opinion and I advocate for them to support their stances. But when it comes to personal attacks, ignorance of facts (or arguing facts with alternate viewpoint opinion), and otherwise complete disregard for others opinions and viewpoints, then it is no longer worth discussing.
Yep, and I stated facts but those don't fit the narrative. I guess those ferrous metals are of ultra high end National Security and the Contractors have to spend 89M lobbying for items we need for our vital defense. All the while China is laughing as they build yet a bigger Navy...
 
Yep, and I stated facts but those don't fit the narrative. I guess those ferrous metals are of ultra high end National Security and the Contractors have to spend 89M lobbying for items we need for our vital defense. All the while China is laughing as they build yet a bigger Navy...
We are able to do more than one thing at a time. We cannot prevent China from building up its navy.

What some of us are saying is that preventing Russia from rebuilding the Soviet Bloc and taking them down several notches in Ukraine is worth the investment. You seem to disagree and get caught up in what Ukraine trades with the USA.
 
We are able to do more than one thing at a time. We cannot prevent China from building up its navy.

What some of us are saying is that preventing Russia from rebuilding the Soviet Bloc and taking them down several notches in Ukraine is worth the investment. You seem to disagree and get caught up in what Ukraine trades with the USA.
Correct, I disagree. Yes we can, we can pull all of our manufacturing and a lot of that does seem to be happening happily. Pretty big story about bidet forcing US employees who were working for the chinese in the semi conductor arena being forced to leave or give up US citizenship. Story never got any press in the US media.

I do not see Russia ever doing that personally. But for the 8th time (which strangely nobody has responded to yet) don't you find it odd that the NATO (even bordering countries) were buying Russian energy along with the USA? Would that not help them to acheieve that goal?

I comprehend that others believe that and that is 100% fair and they have their right to their opinion. What I do find strange is they want to quash my opinion. Maybe they can just scroll by or say I don't agree but it's your right to have your opinion. Facebook is similar to here.
 
Wow!! So if one has a different opinion on a given subject they have to go find a different forum? How very leftist of you.
exactly, kind of anti free speech. But they say it's not a clique. hmmm...
 
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." Unknown

The value of these past pages to some of us, is reading the responses from those that @Randy F and @Red Leg referenced; the vast and varied expertise of members here, and their willingness to share that expertise and experience. I, for one, greatly appreciate your efforts, even when it is obvious that effort is put forth from the irritation of seeing ignorance and falsehoods being promulgated as fact. Please continue that fight, it is beneficial to a lot of us.
 
Correct, I disagree. Yes we can, we can pull all of our manufacturing and a lot of that does seem to be happening happily. Pretty big story about bidet forcing US employees who were working for the chinese in the semi conductor arena being forced to leave or give up US citizenship. Story never got any press in the US media.

I do not see Russia ever doing that personally. But for the 8th time (which strangely nobody has responded to yet) don't you find it odd that the NATO (even bordering countries) were buying Russian energy along with the USA? Would that not help them to acheieve that goal?

I comprehend that others believe that and that is 100% fair and they have their right to their opinion. What I do find strange is they want to quash my opinion. Maybe they can just scroll by or say I don't agree but it's your right to have your opinion. Facebook is similar to here.
It would be great to pull out our manufacturing from China but the US government doesn’t have the power to mandate such a thing and shouldn’t have that kind of power over businesses.

I do find it disturbing and ironic that several NATO countries were or are getting their energy from Russia. Trump had that right. However, that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t stop Russia from reassembling the Soviet Bloc.
 

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