My 303-25

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Ha

@Dr Ray
A 130 grain 270 at 3,100 fps wasn't doing anything my 25 with a 115/117 grain 25 at 3,360 fps wasn't doing and in some cases it was less at longer ranges around the 300 mark. The 25 just seemed to kill quicker but hey you can't get any reader than dead. The 25 just seemed to do it with less fuss and bother.
Bob

 

[CoElkHunter]

I’m still trying to wrap my head around Bob using a 270.

I banged my head on my reloading bench till I fell asleep. When I awakened, it still said Bob used a .270 on that Sambar. I'm still perplexed?

 

[Dr Ray]

@Dr Ray
Back in those days Ray there was no such thing as minimum caliber.
Bob

But there's a regulation for everything -next a tax on breathing

 

[Cervus elaphus]

I’m still trying to wrap my head around Bob using a 270.

@Wyatt Smith
When I bought the Stevens 200aka savage 110 it was in 270 and I just had to try it to see what a lot the fuss was about. It didn't do anything my 25 wouldn't do as well or better.
That's why it became the 35 Whelen.
Bob

In NZ around the fifties & sixties the two most popular calibers were the 308 and 270 for deer sized varmints.
The arguments over which is best is still going on. I'm beginning to like the 35 Whelen the more I dig into the workings. My old 30-06 featherweight used to smack me around so I'm probably just a glutton for punishment.

 

[Cervus elaphus]

I banged my head on my reloading bench till I fell asleep. When I awakened, it still said Bob used a .270 on that Sambar. I'm still perplexed?

If you saw how big those sambar stags grow to in NZ you'd be scrambling for a .375

 

[CoElkHunter]

If you saw how big those sambar stags grow to in NZ you'd be scrambling for a .375

Or at least my .338WM, if I had bullets for it. Wait, I do have bullets for my Glock 10mm! That apparently will work?

 

[Cervus elaphus]

Or at least my .338WM, if I had bullets for it. Wait, I do have bullets for my Glock 10mm! That apparently will work?

Yep the Glock would be fine if you rechambered it to take a .375 300gr A-Frame

 

[Dr Ray]

@Dr Ray
A 130 grain 270 at 3,100 fps wasn't doing anything my 25 with a 115/117 grain 25 at 3,360 fps wasn't doing and in some cases it was less at longer ranges around the 300 mark. The 25 just seemed to kill quicker but hey you can't get any reader than dead. The 25 just seemed to do it with less fuss and bother.
Bob

I don’t have a 25 anymore
270 is great
We all have different likes and dislikes

 

[CBH Australia]

Yep, the Dr is an avid fan of the .270 and Sako's.

We all know what Bob thinks,

Best let em be they are not going to agree on this one.

 

[Dr Ray]

Yep the Glock would be fine if you rechambered it to take a .375 300gr A-Frame

Yikes!!

 

[CoElkHunter]

Yep the Glock would be fine if you rechambered it to take a .375 300gr A-Frame

How about .35 Whelen with one of Bob’s hot loads! Ha!

 

[Dr Ray]

How about .35 Whelen with one of Bob’s hot loads! Ha!

Big yikes !!

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

If you saw how big those sambar stags grow to in NZ you'd be scrambling for a .375

@Cervus elaphas
No mate if the 2 5 didn't work I would bring out the Whelenator that will f@@# em.
Bob

 

[Cervus elaphus]

How about .35 Whelen with one of Bob’s hot loads! Ha!

Even better !

 

[Cervus elaphus]

@Dr Ray
A 130 grain 270 at 3,100 fps wasn't doing anything my 25 with a 115/117 grain 25 at 3,360 fps wasn't doing and in some cases it was less at longer ranges around the 300 mark. The 25 just seemed to kill quicker but hey you can't get any reader than dead. The 25 just seemed to do it with less fuss and bother.
Bob

That brings to mind the .257 Roberts (or .257 Bob) which is another swift killer with a 117gr pill at a conservative 2840fps. Don't seem to hear much about them these days

 

[bruce moulds]

In NZ around the fifties & sixties the two most popular calibers were the 308 and 270 for deer sized varmints.
The arguments over which is best is still going on. I'm beginning to like the 35 Whelen the more I dig into the workings. My old 30-06 featherweight used to smack me around so I'm probably just a glutton for punishment.

i would almost guess that in the 50s the 303 would have been popular.
i remember reading in the 60s and 70s how popular the 222 rem was, particularly with the forest service cullers.
bruce.

 

[Cervus elaphus]

i would almost guess that in the 50s the 303 would have been popular.
i remember reading in the 60s and 70s how popular the 222 rem was, particularly with the forest service cullers.
bruce.

True, the LE 303 has always been there since WW1. When the new crop of non-military rifles came along, we could then get rifles like BSA, Parker-Hale etc, at a price that shooters could afford in calibers like 222 243 308 270 30-06 7mm-08, with scope platforms. The 222 replaced the old 303 among cullers who were beginning to be phased out by the 70's. I was offered a culling job back in 1969 but got married instead. I think the 222 was widely used for kangaroo meat shooting in Australia, perhaps Bob 35 Whelen would know more about that. Eventually the new 5.56mm (.223) became more popular it seems. Funny thing about the .303 is that it never goes away does it, the old girl just keeps evolving, testament to a good all-round rifle and cartridge.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Even better !

@Cervus elaphas
How many times do people have to be told they are NOT HOT LOADS they are book loads from reputable manufacturers like Speer, Sierra and Nosler.
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

True, the LE 303 has always been there since WW1. When the new crop of non-military rifles came along, we could then get rifles like BSA, Parker-Hale etc, at a price that shooters could afford in calibers like 222 243 308 270 30-06 7mm-08, with scope platforms. The 222 replaced the old 303 among cullers who were beginning to be phased out by the 70's. I was offered a culling job back in 1969 but got married instead. I think the 222 was widely used for kangaroo meat shooting in Australia, perhaps Bob 35 Whelen would know more about that. Eventually the new 5.56mm (.223) became more popular it seems. Funny thing about the .303 is that it never goes away does it, the old girl just keeps evolving, testament to a good all-round rifle and cartridge.

@Cervus elaphas
There were many a Sako 222 barrel burnt out. When sako was asked to provide spare barrels they said no one could burn out a barrel that quickly. They sent out a rep to check it out and when they found out it was true they started to send barrels to Australia. It was the only country in the world at the time that wore out barrels hunting.
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Even better !

@Cervus elaphas
My apologies for my reply it was meant for the young grasshopper @CoElkHunter. I am afraid he his slipping in his education on the Whelen and proper loading practices.
I was having a senior moment when I replied.
If young grasshopper keeps being a Muppet I will have to take his 338 off him and give him @CBH wife nice pink muddy girl 243. I will also borrow @Bruce moulds pink tutu and ballet slippers for him.
After that ìi would have him March up as nd down the firing line of my his gun club shouting loudly this is what I hunt with.
That should fix him.
Bob