Muzzle Energy vs Recoil vs Rifle Weight for Dangerous Game

[Ontario Hunter]

I have a CZ 550 in 500 Jeffery. 570g TSX at 2300 fps. Weighs 12 lbs with scope. Accurate as hell, recoil is but a maiden's kiss.

You like the beefy babes, eh?

 

[375Ruger416]

Only have my phone, so didn’t update spreadsheet

375 300 gr. SD .305
450/400 400 gr SD .338
500/416 410 gr SD .338
416 Rigby 400 gr SD .330
404 Jeff 400 gr SD .321
458 Win/Lott 500 gr .341
470 NE 500 gr .318
500 NE 570 gr .313
505 Gibbs 525 gr .294

 

[Hunting Hitman]

Only have my phone, so didn’t update spreadsheet

375 300 gr. SD .305
450/400 400 gr SD .338
500/416 410 gr SD .338
416 Rigby 400 gr SD .330
404 Jeff 400 gr SD .321
458 Win/Lott 500 gr .341
470 NE 500 gr .318
500 NE 570 gr .313
505 Gibbs 525 gr .294

505 Gibbs 570 gr. SD .319
600 gr. SD .336
HH

 

[colorado]

You like the beefy babes, eh?

No just the bad girls

 

[BlueFlyer]

Updated the spreadsheet with the sectional density data provided, but I have guessed on some velocities and charge weights. If yoiu have actual data then please share - or update the attached spreadsheet and share. Rifle weights are my best guess as well.
Note - there is no charge weight for the 600gr 505Gibbs and look at the FRE - I stand corrected, the charge weight is the biggest single contributor to the free recoil.

 

[Hunting Hitman]

One more,
458 Lott with a 500 grain bullet
2300 fps
Ballistic Coefficient .328
Sectional Density .341

HH

 

[BlueFlyer]

One more,
458 Lott with a 500 grain bullet
2300 fps
Ballistic Coefficient .328
Sectional Density .341

Any idea of the powder charge weight?

 

[Hunting Hitman]

Any idea of the powder charge weight?

My load uses 80 grains of Accurate 2520
Rifle 10.5 pounds

HH

 

[BlueFlyer]

One more,
458 Lott with a 500 grain bullet
2300 fps
Ballistic Coefficient .328
Sectional Density .341

I refered to Barnes load data and assumed your rifle weighs 9lbs?

 

[BlueFlyer]

HH - data updated

 

[colorado]

CZ 550 500 Jeffery 12 lbs with scope unloaded 570g TSX at 2300 fps 103g H4895. Kind of gentle

Energy: 6694
TKO: 95
Recoil Energy: 88.12 ft/lbs
Recoil Velocity: 21.74 fps

 

[BlueFlyer]

CZ 550 500 Jeffery 12 lbs with scope unloaded 570g TSX at 2300 fps 103g H4895.

 

[Northern Shooter]

As someone who is buying a 500NE double this year, how perceivable is the difference between that and a 416 Rigby or 458 WM.

Looks like roughly 60ft-lbs Vs. 90ft-lbs.

Does it feel like +50%?

 

[wysongdog]

How bout a 375 ultra mag verses 375 h&h?

 

[colorado]

Yikes!

 

[MS 9x56]

It don’t get serious until you hit 416.

 

[BlueFlyer]

How bout a 375 ultra mag verses

What are the ballisitcs and rifle weight?

 

[BlueFlyer]

How bout a 375 ultra mag verses 375 h&h?

I made some assumptions.

It don’t get serious until you hit 416

Which 416? I have added Rem Mag & Ruger and updated the Rigby to modern reload data so it is more relivant to what it is capable of achieving.

 

[Lone Star Bluegrass]

You like the beefy babes, eh?

“We can’t all be fine dressers like you, Jake.”

Mark: this is a very fine thread you’ve posted. Thank you, we’re overdue for some scholarly discussion.

 

[wysongdog]

I made some assumptions.

Which 416? I have added Rem Mag & Ruger and updated the Rigby to modern reload data so it is more relivant to what it is capable of achieving.
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Looks like the ultra mag won’t be fun to shootb