More thoughts on 9.3x64

[Vashper]

The last model I saw was the BLASER R93 9.3X64.

Perhaps in Austria or Germany it is still possible to order a carbine in this caliber, since such cartridges are still produced there by RWS Nobel

 

[PerH]

Brenneke make 9,3x64 ammo and components also. R93 is discontinued so one have to look on market for them.

But some other rifles around to be found also.

 

[CarlMagnusPantzar]

Yes i have seen that but where in Scandina can i buy those original Brenneke rounds? Have seen retailers only in Germany.

 

[CarlMagnusPantzar]

 

[PerH]

In Norway, Jaktdepotet is importer,and he also have TOG and Leadfree ammo also, who is importer in Sweden i dont know,but check on Brennele webpage.

 

[CarlMagnusPantzar]

There is no importer in Sweden

 

[Strausser]

According to the Brenneke website it’s :

http://jakt-fritid.com/

 

[Vashper]

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[Antho9364]

Good morning,

I hunt a lot with the 9.3x64, especially deer and wild boar, then to a lesser extent I have hunted a little mouflon, roe deer and chamois (unfortunately for me, no large animals yet).
From my personal experience, the effectiveness results are very impressive on animals weighing 100-220 kg.
On smaller animals (less than 60 kg) the result is always there and above all non-destructive, even if this power is not necessary for light animals, but when you love you don't count...
I have become a fan of this caliber, I now own 3 rifles in 9.3x64 (Mauser 66, Sauer 90 and Blaser R93).
It must be said that it is truly an exceptional caliber which is unfairly left aside.

I know you didn't doubt it but I confirm that with suitable ammunition you can shoot quite far, I had good results up to 400 meters with the Brenneke TOG or even the TUG.

I am soon planning a trip to South Africa for a buffalo and some large antelopes (eland...), I of course asked the question if I could hunt buffalo with the 9.3x64 and I was told "of course », despite the minimum 375 HH on DG…
I could stay on 286 gr or switch to 300 gr, but I want to try the Woodleigh in 320 gr (the PP and the FMJ) I have read that some have had excellent results with them.
I know that many have used the SAF in 300 gr with excellent results, but also with this version in 286 gr which seems to me to be a very versatile ammunition in this caliber to do almost everything.
I find it really a shame that Federal Premium does not load in 9.3x64 with a 286 gr SAF and a hydro of the same weight, it loads three 9.3mm calibers (62, 66 and 74R) except the most efficient! !!

In Europe we easily find Swiss reload powders, and I have read that the RS 60 gives excellent results in this caliber (the Vihtavuori N550 too).
Reload Swiss sent me some information.
65 cm (25.6 inch) barrel, and RWS 5333 primer

Woodleigh PP 320 gr, 85.55 mm OA (3.368 inch), 65.7 gr gives 746 m/s (2447 fps) with 5773 J (4258 ft lbs) and 3531 Bar (51213 psi)

Woodleigh FMJ 320 gr, 85.55 mm OA (3.368 inch), 66.3 gr gives 748 m/s (2455 fps) with 5806 J (4282 ft lbs) and 3544 bar (51402 psi)

The 2 loads give 100% combustion and 94% filling, the load seems safe to me, of course I will try it first.
This loading (PP), with a setting of +4 cm at 100 meters, we have a zero at approximately 150 meters, -10 cm at 200 meters, -26 cm at 250 meters and -50 cm at 300 meters, this n It's not ridiculous either for super heavy.

 

[PerH]

Good morning,

I hunt a lot with the 9.3x64, especially deer and wild boar, then to a lesser extent I have hunted a little mouflon, roe deer and chamois (unfortunately for me, no large animals yet).
From my personal experience, the effectiveness results are very impressive on animals weighing 100-220 kg.
On smaller animals (less than 60 kg) the result is always there and above all non-destructive, even if this power is not necessary for light animals, but when you love you don't count...
I have become a fan of this caliber, I now own 3 rifles in 9.3x64 (Mauser 66, Sauer 90 and Blaser R93).
It must be said that it is truly an exceptional caliber which is unfairly left aside.

I know you didn't doubt it but I confirm that with suitable ammunition you can shoot quite far, I had good results up to 400 meters with the Brenneke TOG or even the TUG.

I am soon planning a trip to South Africa for a buffalo and some large antelopes (eland...), I of course asked the question if I could hunt buffalo with the 9.3x64 and I was told "of course », despite the minimum 375 HH on DG…
I could stay on 286 gr or switch to 300 gr, but I want to try the Woodleigh in 320 gr (the PP and the FMJ) I have read that some have had excellent results with them.
I know that many have used the SAF in 300 gr with excellent results, but also with this version in 286 gr which seems to me to be a very versatile ammunition in this caliber to do almost everything.
I find it really a shame that Federal Premium does not load in 9.3x64 with a 286 gr SAF and a hydro of the same weight, it loads three 9.3mm calibers (62, 66 and 74R) except the most efficient! !!

In Europe we easily find Swiss reload powders, and I have read that the RS 60 gives excellent results in this caliber (the Vihtavuori N550 too).
Reload Swiss sent me some information.
65 cm (25.6 inch) barrel, and RWS 5333 primer

Woodleigh PP 320 gr, 85.55 mm OA (3.368 inch), 65.7 gr gives 746 m/s (2447 fps) with 5773 J (4258 ft lbs) and 3531 Bar (51213 psi)

Woodleigh FMJ 320 gr, 85.55 mm OA (3.368 inch), 66.3 gr gives 748 m/s (2455 fps) with 5806 J (4282 ft lbs) and 3544 bar (51402 psi)

The 2 loads give 100% combustion and 94% filling, the load seems safe to me, of course I will try it first.
This loading (PP), with a setting of +4 cm at 100 meters, we have a zero at approximately 150 meters, -10 cm at 200 meters, -26 cm at 250 meters and -50 cm at 300 meters, this n It's not ridiculous either for super heavy.

I think Brenneke load it with some good bullets also .

The First wild boar in modern times in Norway was taken by a 9,3x64 and Swift Aframe bullet

The boar weighed 140 kg btw .

 

[Vashper]

Maybe it's not quite topical: I saw an adapter for training shooting with 9.3x64 by rounds of Makarov pistol. This is the only 9 mm pistol caliber that uses bullets with a true diameter of 9.3 mm.

 

[Doug Hamilton]

Anyone looking at something less than a 375 H&H should consider a 35 Whelen The ballistics for the 9.3 x 62 and the 35 Whelen are very comparable. Not a magnum but still quite capable.

The only time the .35 Whelen fails against the 9.3 x 62 is Africa. The 9.3 is legal for large dangerous game and the .35 Whelen isn't. For those that want a one gun safari, the .35 Whelen won't work, although I think it would be perfect for a strictly PG hunt or as a "light rifle" on a mixed bag hunt.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

The only time the .35 Whelen fails against the 9.3 x 62 is Africa. The 9.3 is legal for large dangerous game and the .35 Whelen isn't. For those that want a one gun safari, the .35 Whelen won't work, although I think it would be perfect for a strictly PG hunt or as a "light rifle" on a mixed bag hunt.

@Doug Hamilton
Which is more the pity as the Whelen will do everything the 9.3x62 will and the 350 Rigby magnum was taking DG for years.
But hey thats life.
After seeing the Whelens performance my PH said he would gladly let me use it in cape buffalo with the correct bullet like a big Woodleigh or AFrame.
Bob

 

[Doug Hamilton]

@Doug Hamilton
Which is more the pity as the Whelen will do everything the 9.3x62 will and the 350 Rigby magnum was taking DG for years.
But hey thats life.
After seeing the Whelens performance my PH said he would gladly let me use it in cape buffalo with the correct bullet like a big Woodleigh or AFrame.
Bob

I believe it. Just don't tell.us your going to use a .243 for buffalo!
Doug

 

[Phil Giordano]

Another good one for our beloved 9,3x64 should be this heavyweight - my reloading project for the next autumn, probably with RS powders, too.

 

[Phil Giordano]

As a commercial cartridge, I use the very classic RWS Tug / Uni 293gr, a great cartridge indeed, an iconic, accurate and effective bullet

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

I believe it. Just don't tell.us your going to use a .243 for buffalo!
Doug

@Doug Hamilton
Hush your mouth, you is cruisin fer a bruisin using my name in the same sentence as that horrible little cartridge.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Bob

 

[hoytcanon]

I had shot many Brenneke cartridges, including 7X64, 8X64S and 9.3X64. I felt the 8X64 was redundant and sold it off keeping the 7mm & 9.3mm... if I had been sharp that day, I would have went the other way around and kept the 8mm and sold the other two. However, I love my Ruger M77 Brenneke's... shot a lot of game with them, mostly with S&B TUG's.

 

[grand veneur]

I also used the 19g TUG bullet for hunting with the cartridge 9,3x64. I used it above all to shoot heavier game species such as Elk and Moose, but also wild boars. I myself never used this cartridge in Africa, but I was there when two hunters in Tanzania shot four buffalos with the cartridge 9,3x64 and the 19g TUG bullet.

The bullet break down in the body of the game and the expansion of it is not very well controlled, so that it is no longer very popular by many hunters nowadays, especially here in Germany. Although I observed this too, I was always satisfied with the working on the game and particularly appreciated the good external ballistics when shooting at longer distance.

 

[Phil Giordano]

My advice, if you're interested in this great round, is to buy dies and shell holders in advance, even if you not yet reload it. This stuff in our '64 is pretty rare, especially the shell holder that is not in common with other cartridges (as far as I know).
Also, a good set of ready-to-load stuff, greatly help to mantain the value of the rifle.