Hunting 14' Crocs In South Africa?

OK, I’m going to ask the dumb question, if you want a 14’ croc why would you hunt it in South Africa? If you want a chance at a big ele you go to Bots or a few spots in Zim. If you want a big croc you likely go to Zambia or Mozambique. You certainly don’t go to South Africa.
I agree, the OP asked about a company offer for a 14ft+ croc in SA. Knowing now what I learned I would NEVER look for a large croc in SA, "if I wanted wild born". On my hunt I asked for a representable 12 ft, a Zim PH on this site who I hunted ele with was asked the same question as I originally wanted to hunt Zim again. He was HONEST straight from the get go, told me 12 ft would be real difficult at that time.

Next croc will be a TV show croc, along the river or lake in Zim. Baited, blind built or stalked and born wild.

I have nothing against bred and released or hunting inside a fence, I just want the truth before I get on scene.

As for references there are members on here who gave glowing reviews as did all I called. Blame is mine, need that wild born question completed at beginning.

MB
 
I find croc hunting to be a great challenge. There are so many unknowns. Is there a big croc where the bait is? Will he come out? Will I get a proper shot? Is the blind giving us enough cover? Will we run out of time? All of that excites me and it is why I ended up extending my buff hunt a couple extra days to give me some time to focus on a big croc if I’m blessed with a buff.
 
I think it is because there are different clients with different motivations. And crocodiles aren't the only quarry that fit that description. I think @ActionBob has it correct. If he will allow me a little more extrapolation, I think we are talking about three different clients. It is likely we can all be one of the three depending upon species, budget, or our due diligence.

Let's stay with crocodiles for a moment. There are indeed clients who are perfectly happy to pot a 14' animal during their stay at a lovely lodge somewhere in commercial power supplied South Africa. An outfitter with a suitable impoundment would be foolish not to offer such opportunities. As long as the client and outfitter or honest with one another, no problem. The client might have to pardon folks like me who likely would be underwhelmed by the tale of the hunt, but that is a different set of issues.

The second client is the one who doesn't yet know any better. He grew up reading Ruark, Hunter and Hemingway and in his heart of hearts at least hopes to see the shade of the Serengeti when he arrives in the Limpopo, Eastern Cape, or Namibia. Usually the exotic animals, professional guide with the exotic accent, and replica East African tent camp (though with ensuite shower and facilities) is sufficient to keep the illusion going. When I was that client, I was fortunately in the very professional hands of Nick Nolte and Dirk de Bod. Any outfitter who takes advantage of such exuberant naivete deserves a bit of exposure.

The third is the client who has been bamboozled. In my case it was the eland, buffalo, sable safari in the Caprivi where the allotted sable had been dead three weeks before my arrival. It really didn't make that much of a difference, but knowing it ahead of time would have made the likelihood of a return safari with that outfitter far more likely. The positive was that my personal due diligence has become far more thorough.

We can substitute sable, lechwe, lion, etc etc into the formula, and I suspect most of us bounce a bit from profile to profile. For me a contrived lion, croc, or hippo are all the same thing. Not interested and not really interested in hearing about it. Yet, I have been perfectly happy hunting antelope among captive breeding populations. My personal hypocrisy is unapologetically selective.

The one general trend that I think I have noticed among African hunters is that the more they pursue game on the the continent, the more important the real rather than contrived experience becomes - even if it means more savings and fewer hunts.
Yup. You've summed it up pretty well Joe;)
 
Sadly, crooks exist the world over and in all spheres of business. Hunting has its share but of course politics has an abundance.

And I do not think South Africa has a corner on crooked hunting companies, Zimbabwe has its fair share of crooks and I am sure all other countries do as well. It all comes down to dealing with a reputable outfitter and doing your homework. Craig Boddington seems to be making a business of endorsed hunting companies because of this exact problem. He is leveraging his trustworthiness and the fact that he has personally been to the camps and outfitters-seems to work for him.
 
I'm going to hunt WILD LDE and Bongo in the open Karoo next year for a dollar per animal... Oh wait!! They don't occur here naturally so they can't be wild or that cheap. Maybe I should have checked out where they actually occur naturally. Damn outfitter screwed me!

Maybe he's got a wild 14 foot croc for me.....

Luckily I bare no responsibility for being screwed. I mean there are no crooks in any given profession in any corner of the planet! Must just be SA...
 

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