Hornady DGX not performing......

[gizmo]

Would find it hard to believe all 5 of the recovered bullets from @gizmo's lion , and perhaps none, impacted bone to cause this.

Ya imagine my surprise when I had a highly pissed off lion 20 yards away taking shot after shot.

 

[gizmo]

Yeah if a bullet fails on a whitetail is one thing, but on DG it can be a life threatening disaster. Too much on the line to risk it IMO, and Hornady has to know about these issues by now, it is harder to find someone who had a good experience then a bad one.

Unfortunately Hornady could care less and are so utterly convinced of their superiority they wont listen. Each and every time they were contacted they had some excuse as to why it wasn't their fault and that we were making this up. After sending pics of the scrap metal left over they stopped responding. Customer service and quality control is not exactly one of Hornady's strong suites.

 

[PHOENIX PHIL]

Ya imagine my surprise when I had a highly pissed off lion 20 yards away taking shot after shot.

The image that comes to mind involves dirty pants. But hey, you had your PH there to help clean up the mess, the lion that is, not your pants. <----- This second sentence said with extreme sarcasm, just in case it doesn't come across.

If I was a DG PH, I think I'd be inclined to tell my clients that if you show up with DGX's, the hunt isn't going to happen. Guess that's easy for me to say since I'm not. But seriously the intent of that statement is as much to emphasize that yes while the PH is getting paid to do this hunt and assume the risk that comes with it. But I don't see how that means he should have to put up with risk that can easily be avoided.

 

[gizmo]

The image that comes to mind involves dirty pants. But hey, you had your PH there to help clean up the mess, the lion that is, not your pants. <----- This second sentence said with extreme sarcasm, just in case it doesn't come across.

If I was a DG PH, I think I'd be inclined to tell my clients that if you show up with DGX's, the hunt isn't going to happen. Guess that's easy for me to say since I'm not. But seriously the intent of that statement is as much to emphasize that yes while the PH is getting paid to do this hunt and assume the risk that comes with it. But I don't see how that means he should have to put up with risk that can easily be avoided.

Check on the clean pants but I was able to sort it out myself fortunately.

 

[enysse]

No doubts, the Swift A Frame is a vastly superior bullet to the DGX. Hornady's DGX don't begin to measure up the Swift A-Frame. There is a lot less weight retention in the DGX.

 

[Desperatezulu]

looks like the jacket of the DGS broke down... not good.

I have put a measly total of 20 rounds of DGX, through my 416Rigby.
All target shooting, but what i did was compare A-Frame's to DGX into the same compacted sand contraption. there were merely fragments of DGX recovered, the jackets that did stay together somewhat had no lead left in them. The A-Frame however stayed together as advertised and pretty much perfectly mushroomed.
I have now shot the Peregrines into a slightly harder more abrasive sand mix and they were perfect mushrooms.
I cannot bring myself to even contemplate any hornady ammo for hunting.
I would strongly recommend from some of the reports on here and my experience that who ever is contemplating using their ammo, to think twice.

I put 50 DGX's through my 416Rigby - got a box cheap and when they wouldn't group great, I used them for rapid fire practice etc. Fortunately I'd read the bad reports here, so was only ever going to use them in their weight class - i.e. against paper.

Luckily for me, the A-Frame 400gr group under an inch at 100m so that was, and remains, my load.
The mind-blowing part is that DGX's are now the same price as A-Frames in SA! Sucks for the gun stores that hold them as stock but at least even unwitting, price-conscious hunters are unlikely to end up with DGX's

 

[Ridgewalker]

I'm using DGS ammo in my 375 H&H on my Sunset to Sunrise hunt. I'm hoping they don't blow up my little trophies!

 

[PeteG]

The mind-blowing part is that DGX's are now the same price as A-Frames in SA! Sucks for the gun stores that hold them as stock but at least even unwitting, price-conscious hunters are unlikely to end up with DGX's

Same here, a box of loaded Norma ammo costs the same as the Hornady ammo... not entirely sure why!

 

[ActionBob]

I'm using DGS ammo in my 375 H&H on my Sunset to Sunrise hunt. I'm hoping they don't blow up my little trophies!

You'll be ok with the solids on little critters

 

[ActionBob]

From @gizmo experience on that lion, Hornady ought to start calling those DGSS. Semi- solids....

 

[fourfive8]

After looking at some media testing I've done with the DGX bullet I absolutely believe the posts about its failures. Seems it is just a weak, non-bonded, cup and core with some thin spring steel wrapped around the core. Once it starts coming apart it comes apart! I've never tested the DGS- no interest in doing so. But wow that recovered DGS out of a relatively soft lion…. good grief!

The last Hornady bullet I used to hunt with was in 1970. The bullet came apart like a cheap suit. I killed the animal but what a mess… it was well hit in the right spot but just badly crippled. I was able to get up on it to finish it. I learned my lesson. Given the responsibility to the animal, the "cost" of cleaning up messes and the cost of hunting in general why even consider cheaping out on bullets???

I also remember several years ago someone talking to Hornady about the "failure" of one of their much marketed but nonetheless weak cup and core big game "hunting" bullets. The Hornady response then was something like, "What's the problem…. it killed the animal didn't it?" Yikes! Now I guess they just don't respond at all.

 

[johnnyblues]

Midway USA is running a special now on most Swift ammo. Box of 375 Ruger bonded which I assume are soft points $67.99 solids $ 153.

 

[Royal27]

After looking at some media testing I've done with the DGX bullet I absolutely believe the posts about its failures. Seems it is just a weak, non-bonded, cup and core with some thin spring steel wrapped around the core. Once it starts coming apart it comes apart! I've never tested the DGS- no interest in doing so. But wow that recovered DGS out of a relatively soft lion…. good grief!

The last Hornady bullet I used to hunt with was in 1970. The bullet came apart like a cheap suit. I killed the animal but what a mess… it was well hit in the right spot but just badly crippled. I was able to get up on it to finish it. I learned my lesson. Given the responsibility to the animal, the "cost" of cleaning up messes and the cost of hunting in general why even consider cheaping out on bullets???

I also remember several years ago someone talking to Hornady about the "failure" of one of their much marketed but nonetheless weak cup and core big game "hunting" bullets. The Hornady response then was something like, "What's the problem…. it killed the animal didn't it?" Yikes! Now I guess they just don't respond at all.

Yup!

The only thing that bothers me more than how lousy a bullet the DGX is would be the fact Hornady ignores the problem. That makes me question all of there other bullets...

The first step in solving a problem is admitting you have one!

 

[johnnyblues]

Yup!

The only thing that bothers me more than how lousy a bullet the DGX is would be the fact Hornady ignores the problem. That makes me question all of there other bullets...

The first step in solving a problem is admitting you have one!

Amen

 

[akeate]

I used to like Hornady bullets. Now I pretty much shoot Nosler partitions...... and a solid is a solid in my book.

 

[Ridgewalker]

I really like Hornady, i.e. 55 gr red tip varmint bullets in my CZ 527 223. Great on coyotes, prairie dogs, foxes, jackrabbits etc. !

 

[K-man]

Never had a failure from a Hornady bullet in Africa. That's because I won't use them. I have seen first hand a hornady SOLID .416 recovered from the inside of an eland off shoulder that was deformed so badly it looked like scrap metal. I do use them here in the states, especially in my .223 for varmits. They absolutely explode on coyotes, not too bad on deer. Just not using them on anything I have to pay a trophy fee on. When I find the picture of the bullet I will post it.

 

[Royal27]

I used to like Hornady bullets. Now I pretty much shoot Nosler partitions......

Except they arent.... There are monolithic solids that are, well, solid.

Then, there are jacketed solids that aren't. At least from the standpoint of there being more than one component. And we all know which category the DGS falls into.

I used to think I'd be fine with a DGS solid, but I've changed my opinion on that one.... There may not be as many examples of DGS failure as the DGX, but they are sure out there. And, not nearly as big a sample size with solids.

 

[siml]

There is no excuse for such bad bullet bring up. Hornady needs to wake up.

 

[Buckdog]

Hornady bullets and ammo are pure shit! why bother when lots of good stuff out there. I just put 2 400gr swift a frames in a 43" buff and 2 in a big old bull giraffe and neither animals liked them too much! the way that buffs stared me down at 30 yds ouch I am damn glad I had good bullets not shit hornady in my 416.