Furthest, Flattest Shooting Double Rifle Caliber?

[Kharn]

I have no experience with the .30r Blaser.
What I do know is that it is almost exclusively seen on Blaser rifles, meaning, your choice of rifle will be limited to quite recent and mostly Blaser rifles.
And you'll find even less double rifles in .30r Blaser.

The 7x65r has been around for a while, from the end of WW1 I believe, so you'll find both modern and vintage rifles, both single-shot and double, over&under and side-by-side. Very basic to very elaborate, from many different styles, Germanic, Austrian, English and even some Belgian, from many different makers.

In other words, for perhaps an edge on performance (though the 7x65r or 7x64 is quite capable of taking the largest of PG with appropriate bullets) you would be greatly limiting your choice of available rifles, both new and used.

Upon quick search Heym(80B), Krieghoff(classic) & Merkel(141) all make SxS Double Rifles in .30R Blaser.

 

[VertigoBE]

Upon quick search Heym(80B), Krieghoff(classic) & Merkel(141) all make SxS Double Rifles in .30R Blaser.

Most of the Germans are indeed going to be offering it. Just like I'm sure almost all other makers will on special order produce you a side by side double rifle in 30r Blaser.

But if you are neither looking to really buy one, money is no object, you do not care about the maker, then anything goes. Invent a custom rimmed version of the Eargesplitten Loudenboomer's cousin in a 30caliber, and call it the flattest shooting double rifle caliber on earth.

.22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer - Firearm Wiki: The Internet Gun Encyclopedia

firearmwiki.com

Or be sensible and classy and have a look at a 7x65r.

 

[VertigoBE]

Just for the sake of it, I looked up flattest shooting cartridges in the world and this turned up the 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum.

The Flattest-Shooting Rifle Cartridges: A handy table – Backfire

backfire.tv

Have a rimmed version of that made for you, and then ask any maker to build you one, with enough money anyone will build you one.

 

[PerH]

The French designed a very few years ago this great cartridge which is rimmed and rimless. The Rimmed one is based on the .450 3.25 inch case full lenght, necked in and given a different shoulder. This coupled with a strong mechanishm. gives the double rifle a round similar to the .378 Weatherby in energy and that is just wow .

The double rifle is now a rifle for little bit longer ranges and not just close up as it has been earlier . For the big ggame hunter in close areas, one can get more energy needed in a brink of an second adrenaline filled moment also. Precision is good, and Swift Aframe bullets is some of the best for it .

No idea on its status is now btw .

https://www.verney-carron.com/pdf/DE-luxe-2011-L_Atelier_Verney-Carron.pdf

 

[Kharn]

I don't know where the notion of me looking to buy started from in this thread... I responded to a question about budget based on not wanting that particular variable to be apart of the factors involved, nothing about buying.

You do not care about the maker, then anything goes. Invent a custom rimmed 30caliber, and call it the flattest shooting double rifle caliber on earth.

Just for the sake of it, I looked up flattest shooting cartridges in the world and this turned up the 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum.

The Flattest-Shooting Rifle Cartridges: A handy table – Backfire

backfire.tv

Have a rimmed version of that made for you, and then ask any maker to build you one, with enough money anyone will build you one.

What? Why? Where's "all this" coming from? I just wanted peoples opinions on what they felt was the typically longest ranged double rifle caliber used or they themself use at longer ranges than the typical <100yrds.

No Weatherby is a double rifle (in my limited experience & opinion).

 

[Altitude sickness]

Vertigo, since we are apparently in “wish world” or fantasy land. Not really looking for a real rifle.

How about a SxS in 375 CheyTac, 408 CheyTac, or 416 Barrett the kings of flat shooting calibers.

 

[Kharn]

The French designed a very few years ago this great cartridge which is rimmed and rimless. The Rimmed one is based on the .450 3.25 inch case full lenght, necked in and given a different shoulder. This coupled with a strong mechanishm. gives the double rifle a round similar to the .378 Weatherby in energy and that is just wow .

The double rifle is now a rifle for little bit longer ranges and not just close up as it has been earlier . For the big ggame hunter in close areas, one can get more energy needed in a brink of an second adrenaline filled moment also. Precision is good, and Swift Aframe bullets is some of the best for it .

No idea on its status is now btw .

https://www.verney-carron.com/pdf/DE-luxe-2011-L_Atelier_Verney-Carron.pdf

I found this when I googled "French .378 Weatherby"

Claude Bouchet

THE MAGICIAN OF GARONNE

 

[Kharn]

Vertigo, since we are apparently in “wish world” or fantasy land. Not really looking for a real rifle.

How about a SxS in 375 CheyTac, 408 CheyTac, or 416 Barrett the kings of flat shooting calibers.

I've mentioned previously that I'm focusing on Rimmed cases, that exist & that it needs to be in the .300 caliber class.

 

[VertigoBE]

Vertigo, since we are apparently in “wish world” or fantasy land. Not really looking for a real rifle.

How about a SxS in 375 CheyTac, 408 CheyTac, or 416 Barrett the kings of flat shooting calibers.

exactly, that was my point (a bit too sarcastic) in my previous two posts. If it does not need to be purchaseable and it can be anything, purely fantasy land, and no budget, there is no such thing as an answer to this question.

The sensible answers seem to have converged around .30r blaser and 7x65r.

 

[VertigoBE]

@Kharn , as I have written to another member, my apologies for my too sarcastic reaction. That was uncalled for. While being annoyed that you would not listen to the answers provided, I tried to be witty, but came over as obnoxious. I'm sorry for this.

 

[PerH]

https://magasin.mitjagtblad.dk/mit-jagtblad-nr-02-21/en-helt-speciel-dobbeltriffel

Here another one in Wby cartridge .

Story about that is it was previous owner had two barrel sets . One a .470 and possibly a 9,3 . Main rifle and other swap set was stolen leaving the .470 set . It was bought from the insurance company via guns store and new rifle was commissioned by original maker but with a .340 Wby set instead of . When it was new developed .

 

[C.W. Richter]

Just for the sake of it, I looked up flattest shooting cartridges in the world and this turned up the 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum.

The Flattest-Shooting Rifle Cartridges: A handy table – Backfire

backfire.tv

Have a rimmed version of that made for you, and then ask any maker to build you one, with enough money anyone will build you one.

That was actually going to be my suggestion, but i only said hot 6.5. That is an excellent round that's been used in 1,000 and even 3,000 yd competition. It did have a slight disadvantage in the wind for the 3,000 and would sometimes get shaded by 300 mags. Nowadays, with the available bullets, the .338 big mags are contenders as well.

 

[One Day...]

I've mentioned previously that I'm focusing on Rimmed cases, that exist & that it needs to be in the .300 caliber class.

Well then, again, you have your answer, and it is simple.

If you eliminate 7x65R, there is only one that is practical: 30R Blaser. End of story.

 

[SETH RINGER]

I HAVE HAD A DRINK OR TWO MORE PAST WHAT I SHOULD HAVE AND STILL BE POSTING, BUT THIS HAS TURNED DUMB.

 

[Longwalker]

I can vouch for the .30 R Blaser. It is a perfect cartridge for the purpose you have in mind. I have a Krieghoff Hubertus that is chambered in .30R Blaser, from my limited experience with it so far, it does everything you are asking of a cartridge suitable for a light double rifle.

 

[Kharn]

I can vouch for the .30 R Blaser. It is a perfect cartridge for the purpose you have in mind. I have a Krieghoff Hubertus that is chambered in .30R Blaser, from my limited experience with it so far, it does everything you are asking of a cartridge suitable for a light double rifle.

I can't think of any other typical caliber for a double that could reach out further and with the accuracy of the .30R Blaser, (cause that's all I'm doing now comparing the .30R Blaser data to everything else I can think of / find that's considered a typical double caliber) I appreciate your input.

 

[PerH]

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[HankBuck]

That’s a bit like asking which Ferrari can tow the biggest trailer…….

But, probably the .375. The rest of them are designed for work inside of 100 yards.

@BryceM: for flat shooting doubles ——maybe build one in .22-250 ??

 

[rookhawk]

Lots of good answers listed. Each of these shoots very flat compared to similar bore size alternatives:

7x57r
7x65r
8x57jrs
9.3x74r
280 Flanged
333 Jeff Flanged
318 WR Flanged
375 Flanged
30R
500/416

Of those, the ones known for accuracy are the 7mms, the 375 Flanged.

The 7mm would have the most advantages IF you can get good regulation with 140gr bullets.

 

[Altitude sickness]

I just happen to have one I could be talked out of. At a great price. ready for service. Heym 55B

Not officially for sale yet. But I may post it.

7x65R