Full stock rifle

[YancyW]

Like many, I will use any conceivable reason to buy a new firearm. I am looking for a full stock, European made, rifle for my trip. 6.5x55 or 7x64 is the direction I am leaning.

Please give your thoughts on you favorite full stock rifles, I am leaning towards a Heym model 21 or a Mannlicher Schoenauer. Sako Bavarian is also an option, but I am looking for something a little different.

 

[Rob404]

I own and love full stocked rifles, don't overlook CZs in full Mannlicher stocks. I took my CZ550 308 Mannlicher hunting in Africa. I also own a rare Montgomery Wards built by Heym back in the 60s

 

[YancyW]

I own and love full stocked rifles, don't overlook CZs in full Mannlicher stocks. I took my CZ550 308 Mannlicher hunting in Africa. I also own a rare Montgomery Wards built by Heym back in the 60sView attachment 215487

Well hell, that is beautiful, I will take it.

 

[Red Leg]

Model 1903 6.5x54 Mannlicher Shoenauer. The world standard by which all other full stock rifles have been measured for 115 years. Just as effective and efficient now as it was then. A truly superb deer rifle.

 

[Velo Dog]

Like many, I will use any conceivable reason to buy a new firearm. I am looking for a full stock, European made, rifle for my trip. 6.5x55 or 7x64 is the direction I am leaning.

Please give your thoughts on you favorite full stock rifles, I am leaning towards a Heym model 21 or a Mannlicher Schoenauer. Sako Bavarian is also an option, but I am looking for something a little different.

Hi YancyW,

Most of my hunting rifles are not full length stocked.
However, I do have a CZ model 550FS, in 6.5x55 and a CZ full stocked .22 that is the same only smaller.
I'm quite fond of these little rifles and wouldn't mind at all taking the 6.5 to Africa one day, to hunt some of the smallish antelopes, from Impala / Reedbok on down.
Plus, it'd be good for baboon, jackal and such as well.

Sadly, I probably will never reach the point in my life that I can afford to focus on a small critter safari but, I am keeping the 6.5, just in case I'm wrong.
It is very accurate and if I ever have grand children, it will also be excellent for them to learn on, as they progress from rimfire upwards.

That said, between the calibers you mention, I'd want the 7x64 Brenneke for general "plains game" hunting, as some of the larger antelopes plus zebra, can really soak up lead if not hit just right.
The 7x64 loaded with 175 grain A-Frames should do nicely on even large zebra stallion, waterbok bull and such tough guys.

Cheers,
Velo Dog.

"I spent most of my money on properly made rifles and big game hunting, the rest I just wasted."

 

[Shootist43]

I love my 6.5 x 55 Swedes and took one to Africa a year and a half ago. Why not have a stock maker build a Mannlicher stock for you?

 

[Rob404]

Well hell, that is beautiful, I will take it.

One came up on Gunbroker a while back in 30/06 like mine, it sold for 1000.00, no clue what they sold for back in the late 50s early 60s.

 

[Red Leg]

This is my little M1903 Mannlicher Schoenauer. It was originally built in 6.5x54 and some numbskull converted it to 6.5x57. Don't get me wrong, the 6.5 Mauser is a wonderful caliber and the ammunition is more easily obtainable, but such a classic should have been left alone. This one has claw mounts and a fifties era scope (still clear and useable - those Germans) but will be heading up the JJ Perodeau soon for a new set of rings to mount a quality modern scope. This particular carbine shoots 1.5 inch groups at 100 meters with S&B ammunition. I am sure Lance Hendershot and I can get it into a MOA with a quality bullet.

Got to love that Monkey Ward Heym. Congrats on finding that wonderful rifle. Just promise me you will get rid of that hideous Pachmayr White Line pad and grace that lovely thing with something like a classic Silver's.

M1903 Mannlicher Shoenauer

• Red Leg
• Jan 27, 2018
• 5

 

[YancyW]

Hi YancyW,

Most of my hunting rifles are not full length stocked.
However, I do have a CZ model 550FS, in 6.5x55 and a CZ full stocked .22 that is the same only smaller.
I'm quite fond of these little rifles and wouldn't mind at all taking the 6.5 to Africa one day, to hunt some of the smallish antelopes, from Impala / Reedbok on down.
Plus, it'd be good for baboon, jackal and such as well.

Sadly, I probably will never reach the point in my life that I can afford to focus on a small critter safari but, I am keeping the 6.5, just in case I'm wrong.
It is very accurate and if I ever have grand children, it will also be excellent for them to learn on, as they progress from rimfire upwards.

That said, between the calibers you mention, I'd want the 7x64 Brenneke for general "plains game" hunting, as some of the larger antelopes plus zebra, can really soak up lead if not hit just right.
The 7x64 loaded with 175 grain A-Frames should do nicely on even large zebra stallion, waterbok bull and such tough guys.

Cheers,
Velo Dog.

"I spent most of my money on properly made rifles and big game hunting, the rest I just wasted."

So what I hear you saying is, I need to buy both. I like the way you think.

 

[7x57Joe]

A CZ in 7x64

Steyr-Mannlicher Luxus in 7x57

 

[Rob404]

This is my little M1903 Mannlicher Schoenauer. It was originally built in 6.5x54 and some numbskull converted it to 6.5x57. Don't get me wrong, the 6.5 Mauser is a wonderful caliber and the ammunition is more easily obtainable, but such a classic should have been left alone. This one has claw mounts and a fifties era scope (still clear and useable - those Germans) but will be heading up the JJ Perodeau soon for a new set of rings to mount a quality modern scope. This particular carbine shoots 1.5 inch groups at 100 meters with S&B ammunition. I am sure Lance Hendershot and I can get it into a MOA with a quality bullet.

Got to love that Monkey Ward Heym. Congrats on finding that wonderful rifle. Just promise me you will get rid of that hideous Pachmayr White Line pad and grace that lovely thing with something like a classic Silver's.

M1903 Mannlicher Shoenauer

• Red Leg
• Jan 27, 2018
• 5

I believe that s the recoil pad that the rifle was built with, I'd hate to change it, It wears a classic 3x9 gloss Leupold, I love to take that old guy to Africa when I go back.I do know a guy with a classic Mannlicher, I wonder what he'd take for it

 

[Red Leg]

I believe that s the recoil pad that the rifle was built with, I'd hate to change it, It wears a classic 3x9 gloss Leupold, I love to take that old guy to Africa when I go back.I do know a guy with a classic Mannlicher, I wonder what he'd take for it

If the pad is stamped with a US brand, that will tell you. The Steyr in 7x57Joe's photo above is wearing a more typical Euro pad. But heck, if you like it, no big thing - your rifle. Really nice find.

 

[Rob404]

If the pad is stamped with a US brand, that will tell you. The Steyr in 7x57Joe's photo above is wearing a more typical Euro pad. But heck, if you like it, no big thing - your rifle. Really nice find.

I really didn't know what I had nor did Cabelas I bought it from so I got it pretty cheap, when I pulled it apart I discovered the Heym West Germany markings

 

[Longwalker]

I have not found a full stock rifle to equal my Brno 22F 7x57. I own several others, a Sako L61R 30-06, a Sauer 202 .308, an Anschutz 1433 .22 hornet. Tried a few more including an original Mannlicher-Schonauer 1903 6.5mm. The Brno is svelte, accurate, lively, and fits me like an extension of thought. I have used it to shoot coyotes on the run at 30M and moose at 250M.

 

[Shootist43]

Longwalker, that Brno is one sweet rifle. If you ever need to make a little more room in the safe, I get first "dib's."

 

[7x57Joe]

Those Brno 22F are very fine rifles but, I have never had the pleasure of owning one nor even being able to handle one. That being said, my Husqvarna 1600H matches the description you gave for your 22F. I wish it was 7x57 instead of .30'06 but, I can make do as is.

 

[nztimb]

This is a G33-40 I stocked for a friend. He has bought a 60's precarve and wanted it inletted and reshaped for the G33-40 with military stepped ( very good) barrel in 8x57

and after a while returned this to him minus a great deal of wood .

 

[Red Leg]

This is a G33-40 I stocked for a friend. He has bought a 60's precarve and wanted it inletted and reshaped for the G33-40 with military stepped ( very good) barrel in 8x57
View attachment 216068

and after a while returned this to him minus a great deal of wood .

View attachment 216069

First class work.

 

[Dr Ray]

Hi YancyW,

Most of my hunting rifles are not full length stocked.
However, I do have a CZ model 550FS, in 6.5x55 and a CZ full stocked .22 that is the same only smaller.
I'm quite fond of these little rifles and wouldn't mind at all taking the 6.5 to Africa one day, to hunt some of the smallish antelopes, from Impala / Reedbok on down.
Plus, it'd be good for baboon, jackal and such as well.

Sadly, I probably will never reach the point in my life that I can afford to focus on a small critter safari but, I am keeping the 6.5, just in case I'm wrong.
It is very accurate and if I ever have grand children, it will also be excellent for them to learn on, as they progress from rimfire upwards.

That said, between the calibers you mention, I'd want the 7x64 Brenneke for general "plains game" hunting, as some of the larger antelopes plus zebra, can really soak up lead if not hit just right.
The 7x64 loaded with 175 grain A-Frames should do nicely on even large zebra stallion, waterbok bull and such tough guys.

Cheers,
Velo Dog.

"I spent most of my money on properly made rifles and big game hunting, the rest I just wasted."

Exactly but you forgot to add
All times wasted that not spent hunting.

 

[Dr Ray]

A CZ in 7x64

Steyr-Mannlicher Luxus in 7x57

Very nice indeed. I personally probably w t but another full stock rifle. I had a short barrelled 308 years ago.
It was fast handling (but very loud 20” barrel).
I think the 7 x 64 would be excellent for plains game.