Well Hank, I expect better from hunters here. Opinions like "how would you like to die?" are rarely answered with "being killed by a hunter" so we can use that argument to shut down hunting all together. Also, I expect hunters to be better educated than to believe that a heart shot animal takes 3 hours to bleed to death. It is precisely these uneducated people that give an opinion that restricts bow hunting and is in part the reason they don't allow hunting elephants, hippos, rhinos and crocs in South Africa, or Namibia and now Botswana, Zimbabwe and Mozambique have closed those off to us as well. And Foxi, coming from Germany, has his mentality as part of the collective mindset in his country that has made bow hunting illegal there for all game.
For the rifle hunters who don't understand how that bothers a bow hunter, perhaps they would understand if they were to go on a buffalo hunt and were told that they could choose the buffalo they want and then only their PH is allowed to shoot if for him and see how satisfying of a hunt they would consider that.
We need to stand up for all hunters rights to hunt, not just our own preference on how to hunt to the exclusion of others because we will always find temporary allies with the greenies to pare down the allowable hunting, but we won't find them on our side to open up hunting anywhere on anything.
Would Foxi be fine if we banned all rifle hunting shots except for head shots? I doubt it, but that is the logical next step in his statement. He told me I could crucify him for his statement and I did.
I don't tell people what kind of bullets to use because I would be out of my depth on such a conversation and he obviously knows fuck all about archery and the lethality of arrows. I have 3 Cape buffaloes down, every single one a single arrow affair with none running more than 60 yards before expiring within a minute and two of them not even giving a death bellow. On the flip side, one of my best friends has 4 Capes down with his rifle and not one was less than 3 bullets to die. If those seven hunts were the only sampling we used, one could say guns were far less humane. Since Zim parks hasn't given out bow permits on elephants in a decade, I doubt the game trackers in Guay have even that large of a sample size for elephants hunted with a bow. I have consistently found rifle hunters who don't bow hunt seriously underestimate the lethality of an arrow.