Elk Rifle

The last two years when I headed West hunting elk, I've taken a Cooper in .300 Win Mag and a Christensen Arms Custom in .300 RUM as back-up. I'd go with a CA Ridgeline in .300 Win Mag.

I have "a few" rifles and "a few" in .30 caliber but somehow my first pick is always a .300 Win Mag.
 
The last two years when I headed West hunting elk, I've taken a Cooper in .300 Win Mag and a Christensen Arms Custom in .300 RUM as back-up. I'd go with a CA Ridgeline in .300 Win Mag.

I have "a few" rifles and "a few" in .30 caliber but somehow my first pick is always a .300 Win Mag.
A wise man once told me "You should never buy a .300 Win Mag, you'll never have an excuse to buy anything else"
 
I have shot elk with .308 Winchester, 7mm Mag and a 50 cal muzzle loader.
The 308 was about a 400 yard shot, elk collapsed dead right there.
The 7mm Mag was at around 150 yards, one through the lungs and the bull stood there. A couple of minutes later it decided to lay down, an unneeded second shot speeded up its demise.
The muzzle loaded was a 134 yard shot. The bull ran about 30 yards and collapsed, then slid under a rather large cedar bush, hiding him completely. It took a minute or two to sort out where the elk was.
Another elk that my dad shot was with a 7mm Mag, neck shot at 70 yards. The bull went down like the hand of god slapped him. He then got up and lowered his antlers and continued towards me. I was ready to brain him when my dad hit him with a second neck shot.
Elk seem unimpressed by the 7mag.
 
We dont have Elk here in Sweden but I would think I would use my kipplauf if we had, it is something very refreshing about stalking when you have but one bullet...

@KJE81 correct me if I am wrong, in Sweden aren't the moose referred to as elk? Or is it the other way around?
 
@KJE81 correct me if I am wrong, in Sweden aren't the moose referred to as elk? Or is it the other way around?
I have heard the word Elk beeing used to mean moose in english in Europe aswell, perhaps it is because the swedish word for moose is "Älg" which is actually quite similar to "Elk" at least when spooken if not in writing.

But since moose are so much bigger I think it would be more correct to call our local deers (Red Deer) for Elk instead, they are more similar in size and general appearance :)
 
@KJE81 correct me if I am wrong, in Sweden aren't the moose referred to as elk? Or is it the other way around?

Scientific name Alces Alces is also called moose or Eurasian elk.

In Canada we call grouse partridge and call walleye pickerel. It is quite common to call the same species by different names in different places.

The one most confusing to me is bonito, which can be either delicious or inedible depending on where you are.
 
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The problem with deciding on a elk rifle is that most of them from a 243 and up work. They also have failures.

All of the elk that I have shot have died. Some like lightning hit them and others that acted like a mosquito had bitten them. They have dropped in their tracks and they have ran off a ways. It didn't matter what I had shot them with. But they all died and were recovered.

Here's a list of my elk,deer, and other big game rounds. These are just those that have killed a elk, bull or cow.

357 mag
357 Herrett
41 mag
44 mag
7-30 Waters
7mm Rem Mag
30-06
348 Winchester
340 Weatherby mag.

I have other capable rounds but those are what I have killed elk with.
 
I’ve Killed a few Elk with my 7MM REM MAG using Nosler Partitions and Barnes TSX.

I’ve Killed a few Elk with my 300 RUM and Berger 210 VLD hunting bullets. No issues. Killed them dead.

Killed 1 Bull Elk with a .45 Cal Muzzle loader.

A practiced and well placed shot is most important. If that includes a longer distance shot with a capable rifle and shooter, so be it.
 
I may be physically larger than most, so I don't find a 10 pound rifle heavy.

Before I retired from Active Duty, it was not unusual for my team and I to carry packs close to 120 pounds in the steep mountains of Korea, and the 240B machine gun I often carried was 28 pounds or so, not counting 100 round belts of ammo. Any ground pounder that came from a combat arms MOS will tell you that after the insane weights we carried in the Army, civilian hunting gear of any weight is pure joy.
That is why I treated so much low back pain.
 
I agree with @Altitude sickness Altitude, there are so many variables when hunting elk. The biggest variables being location, time of year, and what your goal is for the hunt. To add to his thoughts.

Elk hunting in Utah spans from mid-August through December, with minimal breaks between seasons. This means hunters may encounter everything from the heat of August to the snowy conditions of December, or anything in between. The terrain is just as varied, ranging from southern deserts to dense mountain timber and high-altitude subalpine regions. If you plan to hunt elk more than once, you’ll eventually experience all these conditions, as elk tags are becoming increasingly difficult to obtain.

There are significant differences between hunting bull elk and cows, but I’ll focus on bull hunting, specifically the large six-point bulls that every hunter dreams of one day hunting.

Tag Options for Bull Elk Hunting in Utah:

1. Over-the-Counter Public Land Tags
These are the easiest tags to obtain and are generally attainable most years. However, competition is heavy, as thousands of hunters are limited to specific areas where these tags are valid. The rifle and muzzleloader seasons last only a week each, while the archery season extends for two weeks.

Elk in these areas are particularly difficult to approach due to high hunting pressure. If you're not prepared to take longer shots, your chances of success decrease significantly. To put things in perspective, many Utah bowhunters prefer close-range shots but still practice at 100–120 yards in case that’s the only opportunity they get. In these public hunting areas, you’ll be lucky to get one shot in an entire season, and the success rate for these hunts is well below 10%.

2. Limited-Entry Draw Tags
The next-best option is drawing a limited-entry bull elk tag. These tags apply to various units across the state, offering better odds, less hunting pressure, and success rates upwards of 75%. The downside? It takes an average of 13+ years to draw one of these coveted tags, and for premium units with the potential for 350+ class bulls the wait could be 20+ years.

These hunts are highly rewarding, with fewer hunters, more elk encounters, and a greater chance of harvesting a trophy bull. However, considering the rarity of drawing these tags, most hunters will only get two or three of these opportunities in a lifetime. When that moment finally arrives, you’ll want to be fully prepared, including the ability to take a long-range shot if necessary.

3. Landowner and Auction Tags
The final way to secure a bull elk tag is to buy one. Options include private Cooperative Wildlife Management Units (CWMUs) or nonprofit hunting auctions held at banquets and online. These hunts offer flexibility, you can choose the type of experience you want, you can reasonably expect less pressured animals usually offering shorter shooting distances and higher success rates, typically above 95%.

However, this comes at a steep price. Expect to pay between $20,000–$40,000 for one of these tags, often booking a year or two in advance. In 2024, Utah’s statewide elk tag sold for $190,000 at an auction. While these hunts provide the best overall experience, most hunters on this forum would prioritize other dream hunts before spending that kind of money on a single week of elk hunting.

Another factor that will greatly influence shot opportunities, include whether the hunt takes place during the rut. Rutting bulls can sometimes be called in to within just a few feet of the hunter. However, the rut’s timing varies each year based on weather patterns and other variables, so planning a mid-September hunt could mean hitting the rut perfectly—or missing it entirely.

Ideally, every hunter dreams of sneaking in close, taking a shot at an elk they can smell, or while watching two six-point bulls fight for cows. The reality? You take whatever tags you can get and adapt to the conditions at hand. The best advice is to hope for a shot inside 100 yards but be prepared for whatever opportunity the bull of your dreams presents.

Over the years I’ve harvested many elk, some at distances so close I worried they’d fall on us in the makeshift blinds after the shot, others at more than 700 yards. Hunting bull elk is an adventure, whether you’re exploring familiar ground or new country. The key is to be prepared and stay adaptable. Don’t try to force an ideal scenario that may never come, because unless you're willing to spend big money, you’ll only get a few chances to experience it with your own tag in hand.

Not my biggest elk but probably one of my most satisfying.
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There is no such thing as a bad elk!
 
1600m??? That’s a looooong poke. Almost a mile, or 1.6K. You sure? Last guy I hunted with using a 338 Edge, wounded and lost an elk at about 750m. Have not hunted with him since, nor will I ever hunt with that asshat again. YMMV.
Youtube has a couple of videos called ethical hunting. He gets guys that are shooting chassis guns and missing. Most admit that they are not hunters. Fun to watch.
 
There is no such thing as a bad elk!
I don't think my post had anything to do with "good" or "bad" elk?

The point of my post was to say that without spending large sums of money to hunt elk every year, most will only get a couple chances in their lifetime to have a coveted elk tag with the potential to shot a trophy elk, and when you are lucky enough to get that tag you should be ready for how ever that hunt plays out. Could be a short chip shot or a longer cross canyon shot that presents itself. To the original question I am simply saying have enough gun for either.

Ultimately, every hunter has to decide for themselves what they consider a "good" elk, I would say that is based on where you are hunting, the quality of the elk herd, and the amount of hunting pressure on the elk but that's an entirely different debate.
 
Thinking about putting together an elk rifle. Looking for suggestions on rifle, scope and caliber - anything smaller than 7mm need not apply
I can’t speak for myself as I have never been elk hunting. I have my reasons, my friend, however, is an avid elk hunter he goes every year. He just had a 7 mm Remington made for him by a local gunsmith in his area. The thing is a tack driver, and he also uses it as his deer Rifle now. He stuck a night force scope on it. He claims sub MOA at a 200 yard zero. It wears a synthetic stock beavertail it’s built like a target rifle. It seems light to me, however I lift weights regularly so you can’t trust my judgment of weight. I never actually put a luggage scale on the Rifle, to me. It feels like 8 1/2 pounds. The scope he has on it is fantastic. He claims that he can see hair on deer in the pitch black after legal shooting light. I don’t know if that is true or not. He does not poach so don’t have that wrong thought.
 
But the VA says my lower back pain is not Service connected. :confused:
@skydiver386
The Australian VA tried to tell my father his hearing loss wasn't service related.
He told the to stand near heavy artillery or firing 100s of thousands of live rifle and handgun ammo and see how there hearing was after that
They got the message.
Being a machine gunner on a water cooled Vickers is no joy. You got to carry the gun or the tripod and ammo or the ammo and water for the gun. The only ones that didn't carry six 3" mortar rounds as well was the guy carrying the gun. They were usually attached to a mortar section as well.
He marched well fought his way out of Pusan all the way to the Manchurian border and back to the 38th parallel. To go one mile forward at times it was one mile down a mountain then a mile back up the mountain in full battle gear plus whatever else they needed.
Wasn't fun but shit the were fit.
At one stage he was with the equivalent of your recon and behind the enemy lines. He was one tough SOB
Bob
 

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