Do German's just do it best?

[Altitude sickness]

For those interested. I’m on their email list from owning one and asking questions. Not a favored client.

this is to inform you that I will be travelling in the US from October 19th – 28th. Please let me know if you are interested in meeting me in Texas or later that week in Phoenix/Az.
Please excuse the short notice, but sometimes things work fine unexpectedly.

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[MS 9x56]

None of that fancy stuff will like very good after being dragged through the brush for a few years. Never cared for forendtips and monte Carlo stocks.

Give me a lithe stock with a Schnabel fore end any day or even better a mannlicher stock. All my rifles get dragged through the brush. Such is the lot of a hunters gun.

 

[yamoon]

Were not the famous Orberndorf sporters made with actions with cut outs pulled from the production line and slicked up. I have examined many over the years, all had cut outs and provision for stripper clips. Cut outs don’t necessarily mean repurposed military actions.
Mike

 

[yamoon]

I’ll add my 2 cents on G Wagons. I bought a new one in 2007, it now has 42,000 miles on it. Nothing but problems from the day we bought it, too many to detail here. I will never own another German auto.
Mike

 

[yamoon]

My love affair with single shots started in 1983 with a Ruger #1V in 25-06, my love affair with German single shots started with this rifle in 1986. The largest caliber I have seen in this rifle is 9.3x74. The strength and simplicity of the action has always impressed me. Why a larger version was never made and chambered in one of the DG cartridges escapes me.
Mike

 

[Red Leg]

Were not the famous Orberndorf sporters made with actions with cut outs pulled from the production line and slicked up. I have examined many over the years, all had cut outs and provision for stripper clips. Cut outs don’t necessarily mean repurposed military actions.
Mike

Exactly

 

[mark-hunter]

I do not doubt the story, but it would be interesting to understand how that trigger arrangement helped.

I am few days late in my answer, as I was in the north of the country on the rifle match.
This is from the book "German Hunting rifles of the Golden Era 1840 - 1940", by Hanns Pfingsten: If I am not mistaken, a trigger was arranged on a thumb, (like a safety on a modern over under shotgun). I am not sure was it for all Kaisers guns or only on some.
This below is screenshot from said book. Button trigger developped for Kaiser.

 

[Schroeder]

Mr Mannlicher worked at Jeffery & Co. as well. And the current Steyr-Mannlicher is a peach of a rifle.

The current batch of Rigby has a Mauser action made in Germany and the rest is made in England. I cannot think of a better collaboration.

Me neither.
I hunt over a German Shorthaired Pointer, and an English Cocker Spaniel.
There is no better team combination…

 

[Red Leg]

I am few days late in my answer, as I was in the north of the country on the rifle match.
This is from the book "German Hunting rifles of the Golden Era 1840 - 1940", by Hanns Pfingsten: If I am not mistaken, a trigger was arranged on a thumb, (like a safety on a modern over under shotgun). I am not sure was it for all Kaisers guns or only on some.
This below is screenshot from said book. Button trigger developped for Kaiser.
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The picture makes sense. He was apparently unable to use the left arm at all, and the button allowed him to use all four other fingers to securely grip the firearm. Brilliant design.

 

[Field28]

I’ve been to Africa several times and every time I’ve met Americans hunting in the same camps. Never met one German in camp or hunting on any of those trips.

There sure are some unusual distorted opinions, not facts, about Americans in this thread. Not sure why? Maybe some weird since of pride… You know what they say about pride? It’s a terrible thing to waste.

I don’t have a problem with Germans either. They created some great dogs:

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I’ve owned several of those.

Now that we've brought dogs into this, I've got to speak up for American field bred goodness.

 

[Huvius]

Exactly

Were not the famous Orberndorf sporters made with actions with cut outs pulled from the production line and slicked up. I have examined many over the years, all had cut outs and provision for stripper clips. Cut outs don’t necessarily mean repurposed military actions.
Mike

Correct.
Mauser even used the cutout and stripper clip ears on their magnum actions even though there are no stripper clips for the 350 or 416 Rigby.
Just part of the ‘98 design that was held over until the solid left wall action came to be.

 

[MS 9x56]

My love affair with single shots started in 1983 with a Ruger #1V in 25-06, my love affair with German single shots started with this rifle in 1986. The largest caliber I have seen in this rifle is 9.3x74. The strength and simplicity of the action has always impressed me. Why a larger version was never made and chambered in one of the DG cartridges escapes me.
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Most likely because no one wants to face down dangerous game with just one shot.

 

[MS 9x56]

Now that we've brought dogs into this, I've got to speak up for American field bred goodness.

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Now that’s my kind of dog! No really, I have a black lab.

 

[Field28]

Me neither.
I hunt over a German Shorthaired Pointer, and an English Cocker Spaniel.
There is no better team combination…

I've really come to admire GSP's in the past few years. Beautiful dogs and seem to be a happy medium between English Pointers and Setters.

 

[Field28]

Now that’s my kind of dog! No really, I have a black lab.

I'll always have a female black Lab around the house!

 

[NIGHTHAWK]

I’ll admit to having another German:

Jagdterrier

She is a hunting machine…

She likes fishing too:

 

[FlyGuy]

I’ll admit to having another German:

Jagdterrier

She is a hunting machine…
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She likes fishing too:
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These little dogs are terrific!

 

[NIGHTHAWK]

These little dogs are terrific!

Lot of heart, no fear of anything, very loving, also easy to train. Loves water too…

 

[PerH]

That button trigger I
Believe was called Knopfzug or Züg
It was a model by some makers for winter time and gloved hands . And for the Kaiser it was a already proven available system for him as one of many other options to use .

 

[steve white]

I am few days late in my answer, as I was in the north of the country on the rifle match.
This is from the book "German Hunting rifles of the Golden Era 1840 - 1940", by Hanns Pfingsten: If I am not mistaken, a trigger was arranged on a thumb, (like a safety on a modern over under shotgun). I am not sure was it for all Kaisers guns or only on some.
This below is screenshot from said book. Button trigger developped for Kaiser.
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Well, it is a real difficulty to regularly shoot one-handed. Roger Barlow wrote an article about it around 1972 in Gun Digest where he purposely limited himself. He liked the Bretton shotgun for the job, I believe. And it weighed under six pounds. The Kaiser probably needed all the help he could get.