Dakota 76 vs pre 64 custom

[Mdwise75]

If you had the option between the 2 for about the same price, which one would you choose?

 

[PanhandlinPat]

I’ve bought a handful of pre64 70s for fractional prices compared to a Dakota, last one was a few days ago. A 1948 300 h&h for $683 delivered. The stock was refinished and barrel bluing worn but in otherwise fantastic shape. I’m scrapping the stock and barrel and building a 375. With that said, prices being equal, Dakota 76. They have an incomparable level of refinement and finish. Unless the model 70 has had some magic worked on it with comparable wood, there is no comparison in form and function.

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

I collect Pre64 M70’s and I can’t see the prices being equal unless one is massively over valued/under valued, or you’re comparing a M70 that’s extremely uncommon and has some value to it. Plain Jane (non prewar) M70 in a common caliber and I’m picking the Dakota. Start getting into more niche stuff like carbines, super grades, pre-war, less common calibers and that question becomes very hard.

Are both guns the same caliber? If so what? What’s the year on the M70? Is it a Super Grade?

 

[Lone Star Bluegrass]

For me it would depend on configuration and options. If you just want a plain no frills rifle, the Winchester. Dakota is generally more refined, not to mention a half century+ newer.

 

[Mdwise75]

I collect Pre64 M70’s and I can’t see the prices being equal unless one is massively over valued/under valued, or you’re comparing a M70 that’s extremely uncommon and has some value to it. Plain Jane (non prewar) M70 in a common caliber and I’m picking the Dakota. Start getting into more niche stuff like carbines, super grades, pre-war, less common calibers and that question becomes very hard.

Are both guns the same caliber? If so what? What’s the year on the M70? Is it a Super Grade?

It’s a 54 receiver done by frank wells, I’ll try and get some pics. They are both 375hh

 

[PanhandlinPat]

It’s a 54 receiver done by frank wells, I’ll try and get some pics. They are both 375hh

In that case I’d probably get the frank wells 54. That man put out some magnificent rifles and you’ll have something unique and very special.

 

[Hunter-Habib]

I love the pre 64 Winchester Model 70 actions.

 

[CZDiesel]

The Pre-64 but in most cases they are going to cost much more than a Dakota will

 

[Mtn_Infantry]

In that case I’d probably get the frank wells 54. That man put out some magnificent rifles and you’ll have something unique and very special.

Maybe it’s just me and but I’d go the opposite way. There are only a couple custom makers and something like a G&H that I’d pay a premium or above unmolested book value on. I say that because the demand and resale value is there for those gun. I try to consider the longterm resale value of a gun. If I need to sell it, I want to be able to unload it without taking a complete bath and do so quickly without finding the right person. Frank Wells made nice guns but looking at what his other Pre64 customs brought at recent auctions and sales and it’s typically less than book on that gun if unmolested. I liken it to paying $5k over book value for a car with a $5k sound system in it. I don’t want to pay custom prices for custom work built to someone else’s specifications.

I know what a post transition 375’s bring and I know what Dakotas bring. In my opinion he’s either paying a premium for someone else’s semi-custom spec’d M70 or the Dakota is under valued and he should purchase both. Either way, that Dakota would be going home with me if I was in the market.

 

[bobdahunter84]

I'm personally a sucker for a well done custom pre 64 model 70 with a chunk of nice wood.

 

[Spearhead]

Did Winchester ever make or could you have ordered a left handed pre 64?

 

[PanhandlinPat]

Did Winchester ever make or could you have ordered a left handed pre 64?

No but col. Charles Askins had one converted to left hand, I remember seeing it in his book, The Unrepentant Sinner. Interesting rifle made for a very interesting man.

 

[Doug3006]

We don’t know enough about either rifle to say. The Dakota 76 could have been ordered with plain wood and satin bluing, on the low end, or near exhibition walnut and polished blueing..maybe even case color. The value would vary accordingly. The Model 70 could be from the New Haven custom shop with a bunch of options….or the customization could have been done by literally hundreds of independent gunsmiths, some of whom are artists…and some are butchers.

 

[degoins]

Pre 64

 

[Rare Breed]

Nice choice to have with two nice models!!!!

 

[Bapu]

Dakota 76

 

[mauserhunter]

The only logical answer is to buy both.