COVID vaccination required by Safari Company or not, your suggestion

[375 Ruger Fan]

United Airlines requires employees to get vaccinated

Aug 6 (Reuters) - United Airlines Inc on Friday became the latest company to require all its U.S.-based employees to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19.

The airline said employees would need to show proof of vaccination, five weeks after the U.S. drug regulator fully approved any of Pfizer Inc, Moderna Inc or Johnson & Johnson's COVID-19 vaccine or by October 25, whichever was earlier.

A resurgence of COVID-19 cases in the United States due to the more infectious Delta variant has forced the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to reimpose some mask mandates and some companies to require vaccinations at workplaces.


Employees who get vaccinated before September 20 and those that have already received their shots will get an additional day of pay, United Chief Executive Officer Scott Kirby and President Brett Hart said in a letter to employees.

The executives said they are aware some employees will disagree, but added that the mandate was issued to make the workplace safer.

U.S. airlines are rebounding from a brutal 2020, when a slowdown in travel due to the pandemic forced them to cut flights, furlough employees and borrow government money to cover wages.

 

[Hogpatrol]

United Airlines requires employees to get vaccinated

Aug 6 (Reuters) - United Airlines Inc on Friday became the latest company to require all its U.S.-based employees to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19.

The airline said employees would need to show proof of vaccination, five weeks after the U.S. drug regulator fully approved any of Pfizer Inc, Moderna Inc or Johnson & Johnson's COVID-19 vaccine or by October 25, whichever was earlier.

A resurgence of COVID-19 cases in the United States due to the more infectious Delta variant has forced the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to reimpose some mask mandates and some companies to require vaccinations at workplaces.


Employees who get vaccinated before September 20 and those that have already received their shots will get an additional day of pay, United Chief Executive Officer Scott Kirby and President Brett Hart said in a letter to employees.

The executives said they are aware some employees will disagree, but added that the mandate was issued to make the workplace safer.

U.S. airlines are rebounding from a brutal 2020, when a slowdown in travel due to the pandemic forced them to cut flights, furlough employees and borrow government money to cover wages.

I think this will be the wave of the future. Get vaccinated or get fired. Forget about lawsuits and arbitration too. Employers are required by law to provide a safe workplace.

 

[BRICKBURN]

Would you hunt with a Safari Company that required Covid vaccination for all hunters and staff?

I would even hunt with them if they required me to wear clothing at the dinner table.

 

[Tokoloshe Safaris]

loin cloth required!

 

[cls]

Your house, your rules.

I would not have an issue with the requirement to be vaccinated. As others have stated the requirement by the outfitter to be vaccinated will soon be a moot point as it will eventually become a requirement to get on a plane. In a previous life I travelled extensively to some crap hole countries that required vaccines of one sort or another, I had two choices stay home or get the vaccine and get paid. I chose the vaccine. On a side note I had covid back in November with one foot on the dark side, my Doc pulled me back. I have had the two shots with no adverse reactions.

 

[Catahoula]

I am vaccinated, although I still have reservations. I’m not an “anti vaxer”. (I do find it interesting that many lump everyone into one of two categories regarding the Covid vaccine). I would have preferred to give it some time and having some history behind the vaccine before getting the shot, but took the vaccine under pressure from my employer. Since I am vaccinated, I would have no issue hunting with an outfitter that required it. I would not, however, get the vaccine only to hunt with a specific outfitter or PH.

 

[Mark Biggerstaff]

To answer your question. Yes, I would hunt with a company that required the Hunter to be vaccinated as long as all his staff is also.

 

[Wheels]

Covid in one form/strain or another will be with us the rest of our lives. I have had the covid shots. I take flu shots every year. I don't like being sick. Especially in a foreign country.

My wife and I love to travel. Governments will make rules regarding covid and we know if we are going to be able to travel internationally again we will have to abide by those rules.

Perhaps it is the American in me but I hate rules and being told what to do. If I was making a choice between outfitters in Zimbabwe and one required vaccination and one didn't, I would probably go with the one that didn't require the vaccination on principle, if everything else was equal, even though I have already had the shots.

Lon, I like you and your rule on vaccination would not stop me from hunting with you. If I was considering an AH outfitter that I didn't have a previous connection to, it probably would stop me from hunting with them. There are way more outfitters in Africa that I want to hunt with than I will ever be able to get around to. Making a rule would probably eliminate them from my list.

Lon, you and I both fall into the demographic that covid is not kind to. You have to make the decision that is right for you, your wife and staff. What ever decision you make will be the correct one for you!

 

[VonJager]

This. If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem

A simple vaccine, that is never before used technology, that only has emergency use approval, that shouldn’t even have that approval, because if they approved ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine then these “vaccines,”which aren’t vaccines by definition, and still allow those who take it to spread it, would not qualify for emergency use.

If you unplug the television, and stop listening to the fear porn “experts,” you realize that while yes the virus is real, and yes a very small percentage of people get very sick, it is not a plague. Most get over it with medical intervention.

There is something rotten in Denmark.

 

[sierraone]

Is a non issue for me. I get all the shots advised to me. If you don't want it, don't get it. If you are not one of my grand kids, I really don't care.

 

[VonJager]

Trigger Warning! Post may offend anti-vaxxers

I would far prefer to hunt with a company that requires it. I wouldn’t want to share camp with someone that cares so little about his fellow man that he refuses a vaccine just to make the point that “you can’t make me”.

I’m all for freedom of choice. I choose to associate with people who accept science and care about others. By science, I mean peer-reviewed science, not YouTube videos, blogs, or the rantings of “experts” who think the vaccine is the mark of the beast and/or will allow bill gates to control you by turning your body into a 5G antenna. And I wish I were making that up as a rhetorical device.

The peer reviewed science supports ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine not these dumb vaccines that have not even made it through trails until late 2022.

 

[Jfet]

As it has been said before, “Your House, Your Rules”

Maybe the following will help in the understanding of a mRNA Vaccine. Disclaimer, I am the dumbest person in the room. I taught high school biology for 30 years and coached high school football in Texas. There have been many people who have told me how dumb I am.

 

[Jfet]

How do viruses work

 

[Jfet]

How does your immune system work

 

[VonJager]

I think this will be the wave of the future. Get vaccinated or get fired. Forget about lawsuits and arbitration too. Employers are required by law to provide a safe workplace.

By that logic, they can require anything in the name of “safety.”

Stop falling for the trap of more “safety” now abd turning half the country into 2nd class citizens.

 

[Jfet]

How do antibiotics, antivirals, and vaccines work

 

[Jfet]

Disclaimer to the Amoeba Sisters Video. The two ladies that produce these videos are also in the dumbest person group because they have been educators in Texas for many years.

 

[R.M.C.]

I'd be fine with getting a vaccine if it did what it was supposed to : stop me from getting or carrying a certain disease. Doesn't sound like that is happening. I know vaccinated people who now have covid. I'm not eager to go down a rabbit hole with vaccines and boosters and "new strains". If it was simpler, I'd say yep give me the vaccine and we can all get back to normal. The problem is its political, at least in the USA it is

 

[Labman]

Personally it would make me more inclined to book with you. I have had my shots. I just wish I could fly without the PCR tests each way. What concerns me is the possibility of getting a positive or false positive test on the way home and having to quarantine in Africa for 14 days. I know two people who experienced false positive tests here in the USA.

 

[LivingTheDream]

Depends on your goals. If you and your staff are vaccinated, they are probably as safe as they can be. Vaccinate and unvaccinated can carry and spread the virus.

I got vaccinated because I want to travel internationally. But if my outfitter required it I wouldn't care. I think you could give some clients additional comfort knowing the staff is vaccinated.