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[BRICKBURN]

I have noticed as stories like this continue to come to light, the "it's only the flu people" are increasing quiet.

They just gave up.

 

[Albert GRANT]

Maybe those people standing in lines for hours in airports should have takin responsibility for themselves a week ago and gotten out of areas with high rates of infection. Instead of waiting until the ban and than blaming someone else for their ignorance.

So if you were in the middle of a safari and heard news that a virus is starting to spread, possibly becoming an issue in the weeks to come, you would up and run, prior to be told by the government that you needed to get back? I highly doubt it. Also a lot were college kids who were just told the school was shutting down and they had to head home. Easy to be an armchair quarterback, lot harder to helpful

 

[Wheels]

I have noticed as stories like this continue to come to light, the "it's only the flu people" are increasing quiet.

Yep.

The medical community/msm had cried wolf so many times, no one believed them. We still don't know the outcome from this virus, but the characteristics of this virus were known and very scary to those that actually looked at it by the end of January.

 

[lwaters]

Do not know where you got your information from but as a Dutchmen from the Netherlands ( Holland are two provinces) drugs are not legal. Even the weed is not(technically). Prostitution is legal. To blame on that is way to simplistic.

Is it legal in Amsterdam? Or is it overlooked. We in America have been told this in the past. Big cities in America are full of addicts and it's not legal

 

[Albert GRANT]

Is it legal in Amsterdam? Or is it overlooked. We in America have been told this in the past. Big cities in America are full of addicts and it's not legal

Not entirely true now. Plenty of places in the states that it is legal. Never touched a single drug or even cigarette in my life, but it is legal in the entire state of Maine now and it has caused no issues. There really aren't any addicts with pot. There are people who are over the top with it and smoke too much and all the time, but if they were suddenly cut off they wouldn't go through withdrawals

 

[DieJager]

Is it legal in Amsterdam? Or is it overlooked. We in America have been told this in the past. Big cities in America are full of addicts and it's not legal

It is overlooked in many cities but still not legal. The debate is still lingering; legalization or enforcing the law. Because it is overlooked organized crime in our province (North-Brabant) and the rest of the Netherlands is booming. We are the biggest exporter of synthetic drugs and cannabis in Europe. They think legalizing it will stop the organized crime. I think it will only whitewash them. With the Coronavirus all coffeeshops( Read cannabis) were told to close but today a lot of mayors opened them because allready the black market stepped in. Now it is only takeaway

 

[Lakebranch338]

So, what are your thoughts about this situtation with younger people in icu in Holland?

It is overlooked in many cities but still not legal. The debate is still lingering; legalization or enforcing the law. Because it is overlooked organized crime in our province (North-Brabant) and the rest of the Netherlands is booming. We are the biggest exporter of synthetic drugs and cannabis in Europe. They think legalizing it will stop the organized crime. I think it will only whitewash them. With the Coronavirus all coffeeshops( Read cannabis) were told to close but today a lot of mayors opened them because allready the black market stepped in. Now it is only takeaway

 

[Fred Gunner]

More news from South Africa:
It is being reported that after South Africa lifts the current travel ban for citizens of COVID-19 hot-spot countries, including the US, they will then require visas for visitors from those countries. Visas were not previously required for travelers from the US and many European countries.

It is also reported that citizens from hot-spot countries traveling to South Africa will be required to produce a health certificate to prove that they have been tested for COVID-19 and have been cleared.
The people with hunts scheduled in May, June, and July should look into applying soon for visas.

 

[BRICKBURN]

Source ??????

 

[sgt_zim]

https://regenexx.com/blog/coronavirus-myths-debunked/

The one key factor the author overlooks...

It is a certainty we don't know the actual rate of infection here, which he correctly points out. But it's equally certain we don't have an accurate count of the people who've died from it, also. It isn't like the corpses are covered in buboles or pox. To assert that the mortality rate is much lower than we believe it to be (because we can't identify everyone who has been infected by it) is inaccurate, simply because we haven't identified everyone who's died from it, either.

Queue the statisticians...

Since we cannot possibly count everyone who has gotten ill by it, nor the number of people who've died from it, statistical sampling becomes necessary. This is part of epidemiology. We have to assume some level of canceling errors in the ratio of infection:mortality. I only took about 40 hours of math as a computer science undergrad in the 80s, so not nearly versed enough in statistics to take a useful position, other than what I've already said.

 

[YancyW]

The one key factor the author overlooks...

It is a certainty we don't know the actual rate of infection here, which he correctly points out. But it's equally certain we don't have an accurate count of the people who've died from it, also. It isn't like the corpses are covered in buboles or pox. To assert that the mortality rate is much lower than we believe it to be (because we can't identify everyone who has been infected by it) is inaccurate, simply because we haven't identified everyone who's died from it, either.

Queue the statisticians...

Since we cannot possibly count everyone who has gotten ill by it, nor the number of people who've died from it, statistical sampling becomes necessary. This is part of epidemiology. We have to assume some level of canceling errors in the ratio of infection:mortality. I only took about 40 hours of math as a computer science undergrad in the 80s, so not nearly versed enough in statistics to take a useful position, other than what I've already said.

This is dead-on, we don't actually know the denominator or the numerator as of now. That is the cause of the wides ranges seen when estimating the fatality rates.

 

[DieJager]

So, what are your thoughts about this situtation with younger people in icu in Holland?

What I,ve read and heard a lot of underlying medical problems. It has spread fast under are youth mainly in the south because of Carnaval festivities. The south because carnaval is a catholic feast and they live mainly there. This what they call the first wave, a lot of them are recovering. Now we wait for what they call the second wave. It will cause more fatalities because those who are infected tend to be much older.

 

[Brent in Az]

The one key factor the author overlooks...

It is a certainty we don't know the actual rate of infection here, which he correctly points out. But it's equally certain we don't have an accurate count of the people who've died from it, also. It isn't like the corpses are covered in buboles or pox. To assert that the mortality rate is much lower than we believe it to be (because we can't identify everyone who has been infected by it) is inaccurate, simply because we haven't identified everyone who's died from it, either.

Queue the statisticians...

Since we cannot possibly count everyone who has gotten ill by it, nor the number of people who've died from it, statistical sampling becomes necessary. This is part of epidemiology. We have to assume some level of canceling errors in the ratio of infection:mortality. I only took about 40 hours of math as a computer science undergrad in the 80s, so not nearly versed enough in statistics to take a useful position, other than what I've already said.

You need to dumb down the reply a little. I am not a medical expert.

 

[Wheels]

This is dead-on, we don't actually know the denominator or the numerator as of now. That is the cause of the wides ranges seen when estimating the fatality rates.

Bingo.

ie: China and Italy's medical system was overloaded. Mortality rates will be higher there as we have seen. First world countries have good medical systems. The key is to not get them overloaded. 2nd and 3rd world countries will have significant problems. What will never be known in those countries are the true numbers. There will be educated WAG's in those countries to get the denominator and numerator.

 

[Wheels]

What I,ve read and heard a lot of underlying medical problems. It has spread fast under are youth mainly in the south because of Carnaval festivities. The south because carnaval is a catholic feast and they live mainly there. This what they call the first wave, a lot of them are recovering. Now we wait for what they call the second wave. It will cause more fatalities because those who are infected tend to be much older.

Thanks for the clarification. That makes sense.

This will kind of be like spring break in America which is happening now.

 

[sgt_zim]

You need to dumb down the reply a little. I am not a medical expert.

Ever heard the nursery rhyme "ring around the rosy"? That's a description of what bubonic plague sores look like - they're called "buboles."

 

[Wheels]

Ever heard the nursery rhyme "ring around the rosy"? That's a description of what bubonic plague sores look like - they're called "buboles."

I liked it better when I thought it was a shotgun blast.

 

[Ridge Runner]

This is just getting totally ridiculous and out of hand. All these numbers, percentages, comparisons, graphs and charts, media panic and hype, public reactions, the list goes on and on over this CV19 flu.

I have noticed as stories like this continue to come to light, the "it's only the flu people" are increasing quiet.

I will advocate it is still the flu.

But it's like beating a dead horse.

Media hype, has people stampeding and being stupid.

Normal, proper, regular-daily personal hygiene; exercise/physical work; dressing appropriately to the weather; fresh air; proper diet/real meals (good whole foods) and most of all only medicate when necessary.

Just plain common sense:

Bath daily, washing hands: after using the restroom, before eating; before, during, after preparing meals: use hot water to clean dishes:

Sweep, mop, dust, vaccuum, spray disinfectant throughout the home weekly: allow fresh air to travel throughout the home.

Wash and clean fresh foods properly before cooking: cook foods to proper temps: dispose of food in a timely manner: keep refrigerators and freezers clean: moderate; coffee, liquor/alcohol, cola/soda, junk/fast foods; drink more plain water.

Regular exercise and/or manual labor, to keep the respiratory, blood, muscular systems healthy.

Only use medications and vitamin supplements when necessary and as prescribed, allow your body's own immune system to work against virile infections and to develop/mutate/ strengthen immunities to fight against future infections.

Once over the virile infection and the body is back to normal stop over compensating on antibiotics, it harms the body's natural immune system.

If you are into the numbers.....numbers are fictitious!....just as the government accounting office....any really good accountant. Using the same set of numbers and calculations it is possible to show one group how much was earned and a second group how much was lost over the same specific time period.

Now until someone comes out and says/admits CV19 is a mutated: DNA; RNA; designed biohazard; intentionally (or unintentionally) released, then I will gracefully retract my statements CV19 is only the flu.

 

[BRICKBURN]

Ever heard the nursery rhyme "ring around the rosy"? That's a description of what bubonic plague sores look like - they're called "buboles."

Also the ring of lesions tended to occur around the collar where the flea bites first occurred.

 

[Wheels]

WHO has confirmed a case in Tanzania. This has caused a panic for PPE’s. The country is being defoliated.