Cartridges you just hate

[akrifleman]

The differences I have experienced on whitetails says that the 30’s perform way better as far as putting them down. Your mileage may vary but I have never seen a 270 drop anything larger than a squirrel without a spine hit.

Not super scientific but it’s 100’s of deer.

Well, science is observation of data points, so 100s isn't insignificant statistical sample size.

Usually the guy with the 270 has 130s and the 06 guy is running 180s. When they are both running 150s... but, even then.

I'd wager with that many deer, you can shoot. Forensics is pretty clear that bullet placement and construction trumps everything else. My hunch is you have confidence and you shoot the 06 well. Of the 270 shooters I know (personally, not trying to offend all the readers here), only one shoots well. Most the other solid hunter/shooters I know moved on to something else. Which is why I also believe the guys here who have great luck with the Swede, 7x57, 7mm-08, 308, et al

But, I claim 338s and up are a new weight class, so I'm equally convinced it matters there. I'll go and ponder my own hypocrisy. Like you said... YMMV.

 

[BGGMKLR]

7mm Weatherly and 300 Rem Ultramag.
Spike

 

[Milan]

Well, science is observation of data points, so 100s isn't insignificant statistical sample size.

Usually the guy with the 270 has 130s and the 06 guy is running 180s. When they are both running 150s... but, even then.

I'd wager with that many deer, you can shoot. Forensics is pretty clear that bullet placement and construction trumps everything else. My hunch is you have confidence and you shoot the 06 well. Of the 270 shooters I know (personally, not trying to offend all the readers here), only one shoots well. Most the other solid hunter/shooters I know moved on to something else. Which is why I also believe the guys here who have great luck with the Swede, 7x57, 7mm-08, 308, et al

But, I claim 338s and up are a new weight class, so I'm equally convinced it matters there. I'll go and ponder my own hypocrisy. Like you said... YMMV.

I do not have hundred's of deer dead but on the few I shot, I observed the following:

1. 7x57 hits much harder than the cartridge would suggest, even with only 139/140gr bullets
2. 30-06 hits harder yet with 150/165 grainers and makes bigger and deeper wounds/holes
3. 300 WM hits harder still with 180 grainers and just as hard with same at long distances
4. 338 hits harder than anything else I have shot (I never killed anything with .375 H&H, .416 Rigby or .458 Lott)
5. 9.3x62 hits even harder on denser animals but on deer does not seem to hit hard as it mostly goes through. But, it kills just as well as the .338 or better when it hits something stiffer like bones.

In the end, dead is dead and is deader better? Just more meat damage sometimes depending on the shot. But I agree on the .338 and up being another class. Coincidentally 1 of the whitetails I shot with the .338 also did not appear to be hit, just like with the 9.3x62. I was using Winchester's Fail Safe ammo at the time (all copper bullets) and it just zipped through the heart. Deer did not react, did not make a step and then keeled over dead after few seconds.