Cape Buffalo in SA or Tanzania? The better hunt

Depending on what your " dream" hunt is both Tanzania and Zimbabwe will be great options. If price is a factor consider SA or Zim but if it's not a factor look at Tanzania will send you a dm also.
 
I’m Looking to add a Dugga Boy or two to my trophy room and I’d like to hear from Hunters and PH alike on where would make for the best hunt. South Africa or Tanzania?
Also the a filming crew for each that won't break the bank!
Booking for 2027
Many Thanks.
with your specified request you are in the safest hands here in AH..
 
I can’t believe I just saw this thread now. Tanzania for the win hands down, although it’s very costly.
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How’s Tanzania for the nonhunter? My spouse really didn’t like South Africa. She felt like she was cooped up.
If your definition of South Africa is from airport to hunting area and back like most people , Tanzania will be even more isolated experience and she won’t like it as well.
 
Strange question to be asked.
I’ll be in NZ stag/fallow in April 2025
Scotland stag/fallow in Sept 2026
Canada spring blackbear 2026
And Tanzania 2027. Or TBD
Three years is as far out as I usually book hunts.

You’re well organised! Where in Scotland are you stalking?

Interesting thread . I didn’t realise Tanzania was so much more costly! Why are so many folk happy to plains game in South Africa but then when it’s a buff, say that it must be free range in a different country? Is it purely because it’s a dream hunt?
 
I’m Looking to add a Dugga Boy or two to my trophy room and I’d like to hear from Hunters and PH alike on where would make for the best hunt. South Africa or Tanzania?
Also the a filming crew for each that won't break the bank!
Booking for 2027
Many Thanks.
Dm sent, we can assit internally with the filming
 
Interesting thread . I didn’t realise Tanzania was so much more costly! Why are so many folk happy to plains game in South Africa but then when it’s a buff, say that it must be free range in a different country? Is it purely because it’s a dream hunt?
That could be a very long and heavily debated answer. It’s a very different level of management between buffalo in South Africa and elsewhere. There are properties managed as wild self sustaining buffalo but many are not. If you don’t want questions in your head if the buffalo was stocked you need to go to a free range area. Many properties are regularly supplemented with bulls from breeding facilities, some bulls are stocked young and grow on property and some are stocked as post-breeding trophies. Unfortunately, the definition of self sustaining is very flexible in South Africa particularly with buffalo and it’s difficult to identify the truth in some cases if hunting a certain way is important to you, so my money would go where I don’t have any post hunt suspicions. I also think there is an aspect missing if you are hunting buffalo that have never been hunted by lions which is case on most farms. I’d hunt PG in South Africa but I generally wouldn’t hunt buffalo there.
 
Thanks @375Fox . I didn’t realise it was that complex but makes a lot of sense. I wouldn’t be keen to shoot something that was used for breeding then let out..

Going to RSA for first time this year. Hoping to go somewhere for kudu where they can come and go on cattle farms. I’ve been advised free range as they can just hop the fence but we’ll see!
 
You’re well organised! Where in Scotland are you stalking?

Interesting thread . I didn’t realise Tanzania was so much more costly! Why are so many folk happy to plains game in South Africa but then when it’s a buff, say that it must be free range in a different country? Is it purely because it’s a dream hunt?
This will be our second Stag hunt in Scotland the first was with Dunmhor Sporting Ltd. They are a great group.
This next hunt is with Michael Grosse of International Adventures Unlimited. That’s 2026 and looks like a great trip they also cater to the non-hunter with castle tours-lunch at St Andrews etc.
 
This will be our second Stag hunt in Scotland the first was with Dunmhor Sporting Ltd. They are a great group.
This next hunt is with Michael Grosse of International Adventures Unlimited. That’s 2026 and looks like a great trip they also cater to the non-hunter with castle tours-lunch at St Andrews etc.
You’re well organised! Where in Scotland are you stalking?

Interesting thread . I didn’t realise Tanzania was so much more costly! Why are so many folk happy to plains game in South Africa but then when it’s a buff, say that it must be free range in a different country? Is it purely because it’s a dream hunt?
Also after all this great advise on the Buff subject I think you hit the nail on the head with people wanting a traditional stalk with a wild free range Dugga Boy mean as hell with a lot of built-up aggression, not a Buff that’s had an easy life grazing. lol
 
I bet you would have a ball in either country! They seem very different, I want to do both and report back for you.
 
Thanks @375Fox . I didn’t realise it was that complex but makes a lot of sense. I wouldn’t be keen to shoot something that was used for breeding then let out..

Going to RSA for first time this year. Hoping to go somewhere for kudu where they can come and go on cattle farms. I’ve been advised free range as they can just hop the fence but we’ll see!
I went to Zimbabwe for my first hunt as I couldn’t find a way around trusting outfits in SA. There are good operators there but many, if not most need to supplement animals from breeding operations. Just think of it this way, if a property has 30k continuous acres, but have 40 hunters a year going after kudu, there is no way that property can support that harvest without buying more animals. It is the same with buffalo. The outfit I hunted with in Zim could only take 20 buffalo a year on 2 million acres.

Hunting places like Zimbabwe, Mozambique, and Tanzania pretty much guarantee game supplementing wont happen as they don’t follow the same model as SA.
 
Thanks @375Fox . I didn’t realise it was that complex but makes a lot of sense. I wouldn’t be keen to shoot something that was used for breeding then let out..

Going to RSA for first time this year. Hoping to go somewhere for kudu where they can come and go on cattle farms. I’ve been advised free range as they can just hop the fence but we’ll see!
My own experience has been it is less the size of the property and more the quality of the hunt. A case in point I hunted Buff with @TSALA HUNTING SAFARIS and it was an outstanding hunt and experience in SA. I hunted with D&Y in Zim and it to was an outstanding hunt. One was on 100,000 acres in SA and one was on 2 million acres again both equally enjoyable to me!!!
 
You’re well organised! Where in Scotland are you stalking?

Interesting thread . I didn’t realise Tanzania was so much more costly! Why are so many folk happy to plains game in South Africa but then when it’s a buff, say that it must be free range in a different country? Is it purely because it’s a dream hunt?
No.
Because there’s a great difference between buffalo chased by lions day in day out and buffalo with no natural enemies.
No matter how big the fenced area is.
 
My own experience has been it is less the size of the property and more the quality of the hunt. A case in point I hunted Buff with @TSALA HUNTING SAFARIS and it was an outstanding hunt and experience in SA. I hunted with D&Y in Zim and it to was an outstanding hunt. One was on 100,000 acres in SA and one was on 2 million acres again both equally enjoyable to me!!!
I will add I have seen and no I will not name the outfitter a very small space where the animals had holes for the tags in their ears that I refused to take an animal there. My lesson learned is it is not just about fenced versus non fenced. @TSALA HUNTING SAFARIS even though yes they had fences in SA I did not notice them on my awesome hunt as I did not notice since there were not any fences with D&Y. Do your homework and it will pay off!!!!
 
No.
Because there’s a great difference between buffalo chased by lions day in day out and buffalo with no natural enemies.
No matter how big the fenced area is.

Do you find they’re more wary of hunters because of this? Does it make the hunt more challenging? Or are they more aggressive?

Just interested as I would have thought they were in a large area, self sustaining in SA, they would still be the same animal - but possibly not. If they’re animals that are worked with or see people frequently though I appreciate there may be a difference.

Interesting concept anyway. Looks like it would be Zim for me if the doors ever open for a 40th or 50th. Quite a price difference between that and Tanzania .
 
Do you find they’re more wary of hunters because of this? Does it make the hunt more challenging? Or are they more aggressive?

Just interested as I would have thought they were in a large area, self sustaining in SA, they would still be the same animal - but possibly not. If they’re animals that are worked with or see people frequently though I appreciate there may be a difference.

Interesting concept anyway. Looks like it would be Zim for me if the doors ever open for a 40th or 50th. Quite a price difference between that and Tanzania .
It’s not a matter of challenge, but more of what you are looking for. Do you want to hunt hard for 10 days and possibly not get a buffalo, because hunting is hunting ? Or do you want the guarantee you will get a shot opportunity?

No matter what an outfit says, there are not a lot of places that’s have self sustaining herds in SA. Many need to supplement with farmed animals. Zim is only a little bit more that SA when looking at a quality outfit that is trying to produce the same style of experience. You are looking at maybe 1-2k more. If you see buffalo advertised in SA for 9k all inclusive for 5 or 7 hunting days, you should take heavy caution.
 

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