Big Bore Addiction Group

[Velo Dog]

sadly I wont have a double rifle to shoot... hopefully my little 416 will be accepted.

I need to get Mr. Searcy to hurry up and fix my double so I can sell it and put some more money together for a nice Heym. after speaking with them at the SCI show ive pretty much decided one of their rifles is in my future! chambering is still undecided but will probably be in either 450 NE or 470 NE... the 500 NE calls to me as well.

-matt

Not to worry, if you journey all the way to Alaska, during a time when an organized D.R. shoot is going on, we will see to it you can fire some doubles here.

 

[Pondoro]

Since we are talking bore rifles.....I aquired a single Joseph Lang & Son 10 bore, fully rifled bore, centerfire hammer, heavy octagonal barrel. It is made year 1870. I PRESUME it is for the 700 grain rund ball and 5 dram load, but not sure. Where can I get 10 bore brass shells..?

 

[matt85]

Since we are talking bore rifles.....I aquired a single Joseph Lang & Son 10 bore, fully rifled bore, centerfire hammer, heavy octagonal barrel. It is made year 1870. I PRESUME it is for the 700 grain rund ball and 5 dram load, but not sure. Where can I get 10 bore brass shells..?

pictures or its a lie!

as far as getting 10 bore brass, you will likely have to get it made. first thing you will need is a chamber cast.

-matt

 

[Pondoro]

I will take some pics and post them..

 

[matt85]

just a thought, but if its a cartridge rifle then its likely meant to fire either a conical or a minie ball. I don't believe to many cartridge guns were made to fire round balls. (I could easily be wrong)

figure out what the twist rate is and that will tell you if its meant for a round ball for a conical.

-matt

 

[spike.t]

so I can sell it and put some more money together for a nice Heym. after speaking with them at the SCI show ive pretty much decided one of their rifles is in my future! chambering is still undecided but will probably be in either 450 NE or 470 NE... the 500 NE calls to me as well.

-matt

matt those heym 150th anniversary price special offers at sci with the .470 and .500 doubles at $15,000.00 were tempting.......

 

[Pondoro]

My Joseph Lang & Son 10 bore rifle..

 

[CAustin]

Now that's a BIG bore!

 

[spike.t]

nice pondoro i have a lang .470 you need to make a nice pair

 

[Pondoro]

Thats tempting Spike, but I already have a nice old english double in .475 NE...

 

[spike.t]

Thats tempting Spike, but I already have a nice old english double in .475 NE...

ah well you know where it is .........now have you given the info and photos of the .475 already? and if not why not ??????

 

[Pondoro]

There is a pic of my double on my private photos..

 

[spike.t]

There is a pic of my double on my private photos..

looks nice. how do you manage for the .280 flanged (had to look it up. its also the .280 lancaster as he developed it) ammo?

 

[Pondoro]

 

[Pondoro]

Two more pics of the Lang..

The .280 Flanged NE was made by Lancaster, ie a fully rimmed .280 Ross..

I have dies for it and just got brass from Bertram....wil try to load for it..

 

[spike.t]

what bullet weights are you going to try? i see it used to be factory loaded with 140grn, 160grn and 180grn bullets. the 180 should be good for plains game , boar etc.

 

[Pondoro]

The barrels are proofed for 45 1/2 grains of cordite and 140 grain bullets.

I have an ancient Kynoch box that came with the rifle with a few 140 gr. copper-point rounds...loaded with N/C powder according to the box..

When I finally got myself an english double it had to be in to really oddball calibres...

I have a 1914 catalouge (reprint) from Charles Lancaster, they tried really hard to market the .280 round there......but it never really caught on it seems..

I think my rifle is from that early period.

 

[spike.t]

maybe email david little at http://www.kynochammunition.co.uk/ and ask what the load info was for the different weights, and what he suggests would be good for todays powders etc.

 

[Pondoro]

Tried to e-mail him but he is not very responsive...not interested in making some ammo either..

I bought some new .475 ammo from him though and it regulates in my rifle..

Would you please post some pics of your .470 Lang..?

 

[bebo]

XIX century ! What era ! They didn't be afraid ... 10 bore ... for Lions, Elephant, Buffalo ... Keep my .416 ...