Betram Brass Options - Feedback Requested

[RAVEN ROCKS PRECISION]

Bruce said I could share this list of calibers his company produces. He obviously makes some esoteric stuff - it's not all in stock, but it's possible to manufacture. Is there anything on this list that you'd really like to get your hands on? I told Bruce I'd let him know which calibers get the most feedback as well.

50 Sharps	50/95	310 Cadet	240 Fl	.458 Ackley
50/90	50/70	240 Belt	7mm Rigby	.458 Lott
50/110	45/120	280 Fl	300 Rook	6.5 Rem Mag
45/110	45/100	300 Sh	300 S M F	6.5 PRC
45/90	45/75	318 WR	333 Fl	6.5 SAUM
405 3 ¼	405 Win	333 Riml	350 Rigby	6.5 x 300 Wby
401 WSL	40/90	400/350	360 2 ¼	6.5 WSM
40/90 SBN	40/70	400/360	400/360 WR	7mm PRC
40/72	40/82	360 #2	400/375 Belt	7mm Rem Mag
40/65	38/72	375 2 ¼	375 Fl 2 ½	7mm RUM
38/56	35 Win	375 M Fl	378 Wby	7mm STW
35 WSL	351 WSL	400 3”	450/400 2 3/8	7mm SAUM
33 Win	32 Ideal	450/400 2 7/8	450/400 3”	7mm Wby
32 WSL	303 Sav.	450/400 3 ¼	404​	7mm WSM
30/30	28/30	416 Rigby	416 Taylor	8 mm Rem Mag
25/25	25/21	500/416	425​	8.6 Blk
25/20	40/60	442 Rook	450 Rigby	.223 WSSM
408/338 ST	5.6 x 33 R	450 #2 3 ½	450 3 ¼	.243 WSSM
408/375 CT	6.5 x 53 R	500/450	500/450 #1 Car	.244 H&H
408CT	7 x 33 Sako	500/450 #1 Exp	500/450 #2	25 WSSM
.416 Rem Mag	8 x 50 R	577/450	460 Wby	.257 Wby
.416 Barrett	8 x 58R	461 Gibbs	500/465	.26 Nosler
.416 Hellfire	8 x 64 S	470 NE	475 N 3 ¼	.27 Nosler
.416 Vestal	9 x57	475 #2 3 ½	476 N	.270 Wby
.450 Marlin	9.5 x 47 R	500 NE 3 ¼	500 N 3”	.270 Win
.458 Win Mag	43 Span	500 Jeff	500 WBY	.270 WSM
.460 Steyr	10.3 x 60R	577/500 #2	577/500 3 1/8	.28 Nosler
.585 HE	10.75 x 65 R	505 Gibbs	585 Nyati	.284 Winchester
.310 CK	11 x 59	585​	577 Sn	.300 H&H
7.5 Nag	11.2 x 72 Sc	577 3”	577 3 ¼	.30 Nosler
455 Web	12.7 x 44R	600/577	600 NE	.300 Norma
450 Rev	43 Egy	700 NE	12 Gauge	.300 OSSM
9mm Base	8 x 60 Krop	410 Shot	4 Bore	.300 PRC
11.75 Mont	6 x 62 Freres	585 African	5.6 V. H	.300 RUM
303 Brit.	7.65 MAS	.325 WSM	6.5 x 58 R	.300 SAUM
	30 Mauser	.33 Nosler	7 x 72 R	.300 Win Mag
	7.62 Nag	.338 Edge	8 x 56 R	.300 WSM
	8mm Nambu	.338 Lapua	8 x 58 R	.300 Wby
	41 L Colt	.338 Long Lapua	8 x 65	.307 Win
	222 Rimmed	.338 Norma	9.3 x 82 R	.308 Norma Mag
	303/25	.338 RUM	9 x 57 R
	45/70	.338 Win Mag	43 Mau
		.340 Wby	10.3 x 65 R
		.348 Win	10.75 x 68
		.350 Rem Mag	11.15x 58 We
		.350 WSM	11.7 x 51
		.356 Win	43 Beau
		.375 Hellfire	10.15 x 61
		.375 H & H	6.5 x 70 R
		.375 Ruger	6 x 62 R Freres
		.375 RUM
		.375 Winchester

 

[wildwilderness]

I would take some 6.5 WSM just to have headstamped correct brass.

375 Ruger is always hard to find new
416 Ruger is not even on his list?

450/400” 3” for when I decided to buy one!

 

[318AE]

Esoteric? Shame on you!

318 WR, 333 rimless, anything that ends “nitro express”. Is the 280 fl and 280 Ross or something else? That is usually considered “semi-rimmed”

 

[Ridge Runner]

Not on his list that I need:

44-40
32-20
22 Hornet

I'll have to check my inventory could possibly use 45-70 brass.

Can you verify if it is 38-56 brass or a typo and 38-55 brass?

 

[Lance Hopper]

45-120
10.75x68

And if the 8x50R is Austrian, that too

 

[Mark A Ouellette]

Hey Bill @RAVEN ROCKS PRECISION ,

Would you inquire if Betram would make any brass for the Dakota cartridges?
What little that is available is going for $8 to $10 a piece for new brass and $5 for once fired. That is if one can find it!

 

[RAVEN ROCKS PRECISION]

Not on his list that I need:

44-40
32-20
22 Hornet

I'll have to check my inventory could possibly use 45-70 brass.

Can you verify if it is 38-56 brass or a typo and 38-55 brass?

22 Hornet will be here hopefully next month. For something like 45-70, it makes more sense for me to source it domestically-- I've been waiting on a dealer order from Starline for probably over a year. Without getting too much into Bertram pricing, it'll still be at a premium. I don't know the owner of Bertram USA, and I don't know what he used to pay, but if his numbers are close to mine, what he charges are fair prices in my opinion (based on some roughly calculated landed costs).

Hey Bill @RAVEN ROCKS PRECISION ,

Would you inquire if Betram would make any brass for the Dakota cartridges?
What little that is available is going for $8 to $10 a piece for new brass and $5 for once fired. That is if one can find it!

I can ask for sure. Was that a Quality Cartridge headstamp, Mark?

 

[Aussie Mal]

375 2 1/2

 

[Mark A Ouellette]

I can ask for sure. Was that a Quality Cartridge headstamp, Mark?

I do not know who made the brass for Dakota Arms...
I am not an expert on Dakota Arms rifles and brass but I know of three different headstamps:

Dakota Arms - small headstamps

Dakota Arms - large headstamps (from @Esoteric Junkie photo... Thanks!)

I copied this photo of Qual-Cart brass from the Internet.

 

[Dirtdart]

I checked the Bertram USA site and it said they are selling off current inventory and will not be importing any more brass. No explanation given?

I would love to see some 10.75x68 Mauser become available and I know of at least one other member in the market for the same.

 

[PerH]

I do not know who made the brass for Dakota Arms...
I am not an expert on Dakota Arms rifles and brass but I know of three different headstamps:

Dakota Arms - small headstamps
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Dakota Arms - large headstamps (from @Esoteric Junkie photo... Thanks!)
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I copied this photo of Qual-Cart brass from the Internet.

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For a time Norma as part of their “ private brand “ made Dakota brass or was the most substantial maker of it “ as well as many others .

There is in some catalogs picture of their p b stamped cases from many makers .

 

[Ontario Hunter]

I have been toying with the idea of building a 333 Jeffery but would have to find a supply of brass ... among other obstacles. Any ideas?

 

[RAVEN ROCKS PRECISION]

I have been toying with the idea of building a 333 Jeffery but would have to find a supply of brass ... among other obstacles. Any ideas?

I've had limited requests for 333 Jeffery Brass. It's possible to get, but probably makes sense in smaller numbers.

I checked the Bertram USA site and it said they are selling off current inventory and will not be importing any more brass. No explanation given?

I would love to see some 10.75x68 Mauser become available and I know of at least one other member in the market for the same.

I think for the Bertram Brass, it would make the most sense for me to do some kind of custom order for folks. I don't typically do pre-orders, but in this case, I think that would be best.

I'll reach out to Bruce and see if he has any of these in stock. If it seems like I can facilitate a group buy / import, I'll look into organizing something.

 

[Ryan]

Another vote for 375 Ruger.

 

[Dirtdart]

I think for the Bertram Brass, it would make the most sense for me to do some kind of custom order for folks. I don't typically do pre-orders, but in this case, I think that would be best.

I'll reach out to Bruce and see if he has any of these in stock. If it seems like I can facilitate a group buy / import, I'll look into organizing something.

That would be much appreciated!

 

[Themauserkid]

I could use some 6.5x58R and I think there are enough guns floating around that it’s just about always out of stock. Thanks for offering!

 

[Uintaelkhunter]

577 3inch nitro

 

[sgt_zim]

I'm assuming the "404" is 404 Jeffery.

 

[Doug3006]

300 H&H

 

[RAVEN ROCKS PRECISION]

Bruce got back to me. I'm going to put together an import list in the coming weeks. It'll likely be pre-order, and I'll probably have it on the website as a special item with a cut-off date for orders so we can process the import. His feedback:

450 / 400 3 inch - available
375 Ruger - more available soon
10.75 x 68 - in stock
333 rimmed and rimless - in stock
45 -120 - small amount in stock

I'll keep you all updated.

In the meantime, we're going to offer some great handgun reloading deals. 45 ACP bullets are now on sale for as low as 7.9 cents each with free shipping: https://ravenrocksprecision.com/inceptor-45-acp-452-118gr-arx-bullets-updating/ (lowest price online)