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Bruce said I could share this list of calibers his company produces. He obviously makes some esoteric stuff - it's not all in stock, but it's possible to manufacture. Is there anything on this list that you'd really like to get your hands on? I told Bruce I'd let him know which calibers get the most feedback as well.


50 Sharps50/95310 Cadet240 Fl.458 Ackley
50/9050/70240 Belt7mm Rigby.458 Lott
50/11045/120280 Fl300 Rook6.5 Rem Mag
45/11045/100300 Sh300 S M F6.5 PRC
45/9045/75318 WR333 Fl6.5 SAUM
405 3 ¼405 Win333 Riml350 Rigby6.5 x 300 Wby
401 WSL40/90400/350360 2 ¼6.5 WSM
40/90 SBN40/70400/360400/360 WR7mm PRC
40/7240/82360 #2400/375 Belt7mm Rem Mag
40/6538/72375 2 ¼375 Fl 2 ½7mm RUM
38/5635 Win375 M Fl378 Wby7mm STW
35 WSL351 WSL400 3”450/400 2 3/87mm SAUM
33 Win32 Ideal450/400 2 7/8450/400 3”7mm Wby
32 WSL303 Sav.450/400 3 ¼
404​
7mm WSM
30/3028/30416 Rigby416 Taylor8 mm Rem Mag
25/2525/21500/416
425​
8.6 Blk
25/2040/60442 Rook450 Rigby.223 WSSM
408/338 ST5.6 x 33 R450 #2 3 ½450 3 ¼.243 WSSM
408/375 CT6.5 x 53 R500/450500/450 #1 Car.244 H&H
408CT7 x 33 Sako500/450 #1 Exp500/450 #225 WSSM
.416 Rem Mag8 x 50 R577/450460 Wby.257 Wby
.416 Barrett8 x 58R461 Gibbs500/465.26 Nosler
.416 Hellfire8 x 64 S470 NE475 N 3 ¼.27 Nosler
.416 Vestal9 x57475 #2 3 ½476 N.270 Wby
.450 Marlin9.5 x 47 R500 NE 3 ¼500 N 3”.270 Win
.458 Win Mag43 Span500 Jeff500 WBY.270 WSM
.460 Steyr10.3 x 60R577/500 #2577/500 3 1/8.28 Nosler
.585 HE10.75 x 65 R505 Gibbs585 Nyati.284 Winchester
.310 CK11 x 59
585​
577 Sn.300 H&H
7.5 Nag11.2 x 72 Sc577 3”577 3 ¼.30 Nosler
455 Web12.7 x 44R600/577600 NE.300 Norma
450 Rev43 Egy700 NE12 Gauge.300 OSSM
9mm Base8 x 60 Krop410 Shot4 Bore.300 PRC
11.75 Mont6 x 62 Freres585 African5.6 V. H.300 RUM
303 Brit.7.65 MAS.325 WSM6.5 x 58 R.300 SAUM
30 Mauser.33 Nosler7 x 72 R.300 Win Mag
7.62 Nag.338 Edge8 x 56 R.300 WSM
8mm Nambu.338 Lapua8 x 58 R.300 Wby
41 L Colt.338 Long Lapua8 x 65.307 Win
222 Rimmed.338 Norma9.3 x 82 R.308 Norma Mag
303/25.338 RUM9 x 57 R
45/70.338 Win Mag43 Mau
.340 Wby10.3 x 65 R
.348 Win10.75 x 68
.350 Rem Mag11.15x 58 We
.350 WSM11.7 x 51
.356 Win43 Beau
.375 Hellfire10.15 x 61
.375 H & H6.5 x 70 R
.375 Ruger6 x 62 R Freres
.375 RUM
.375 Winchester
 
I would take some 6.5 WSM just to have headstamped correct brass.

375 Ruger is always hard to find new
416 Ruger is not even on his list?

450/400” 3” for when I decided to buy one!
 
Esoteric? Shame on you! ;)

318 WR, 333 rimless, anything that ends “nitro express”. Is the 280 fl and 280 Ross or something else? That is usually considered “semi-rimmed”
 
Not on his list that I need:

44-40
32-20
22 Hornet

I'll have to check my inventory could possibly use 45-70 brass.

Can you verify if it is 38-56 brass or a typo and 38-55 brass?
 
Hey Bill @RAVEN ROCKS PRECISION ,

Would you inquire if Betram would make any brass for the Dakota cartridges?
What little that is available is going for $8 to $10 a piece for new brass and $5 for once fired. That is if one can find it!
 
Not on his list that I need:

44-40
32-20
22 Hornet

I'll have to check my inventory could possibly use 45-70 brass.

Can you verify if it is 38-56 brass or a typo and 38-55 brass?
22 Hornet will be here hopefully next month. For something like 45-70, it makes more sense for me to source it domestically-- I've been waiting on a dealer order from Starline for probably over a year. Without getting too much into Bertram pricing, it'll still be at a premium. I don't know the owner of Bertram USA, and I don't know what he used to pay, but if his numbers are close to mine, what he charges are fair prices in my opinion (based on some roughly calculated landed costs).
Hey Bill @RAVEN ROCKS PRECISION ,

Would you inquire if Betram would make any brass for the Dakota cartridges?
What little that is available is going for $8 to $10 a piece for new brass and $5 for once fired. That is if one can find it!
I can ask for sure. Was that a Quality Cartridge headstamp, Mark?
 
I can ask for sure. Was that a Quality Cartridge headstamp, Mark?

I do not know who made the brass for Dakota Arms...
I am not an expert on Dakota Arms rifles and brass but I know of three different headstamps:

Dakota Arms - small headstamps
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Dakota Arms - large headstamps (from @Esoteric Junkie photo... Thanks!)
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I copied this photo of Qual-Cart brass from the Internet.

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