back up to three .35 whelens, rem 700 custom deluxe picked up

[CoElkHunter]

i have a 35 rem, a rem 141 pump made in 1940 that i shoot 200 gr round nose bullets at 2100 fps and its good for deer-bear close up if they are not wearing their kevlor vests and are closer than 50 yards.

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i have a 35 rem, a rem 141 pump made in 1940 that i shoot 200 gr round nose bullets at 2100 fps and its good for deer-bear close up if they are not wearing their kevlor vests and are closer than 50 yards.

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Very nice, clean looking rifle.

 

[sestoppelman]

@sestoppelman
Ses I wasn't long out is surgery when i read your post about the 8x64. The 8mm with a 220grainer at 2,700 is still slower than t hgem Whelens 225 grain accubonds @2,900 fps. The Whelen wìth 250s @2,700 fps is a different story again.
Both loads are up over 4,000fpe at the muzzle.
If the 8mm rem mag and the 325 are peas in a pod and the Whelen chews up both those pip squeaks then the 8x64 must be something special to come near it.
I do like these friendly sessions with you but they would be better around a campfire with our drinks of choice.
Bob

I dont know that it would come near to the Whelen as you load it. I am not that adventurous.. all I was saying is that most things being equal, (loading practices aside), that the two rounds arent all that different. Capacity is nearly equal, Whelen has the edge on diameter and heavy bullets, 8mm a little edge on ballistic properties, shoots a little flatter with 200 gr bullets perhaps.
Dont think I have ever heard anyone refer to the 8mm Rem mag as a pipsqueak before, LOL.

 

[sestoppelman]

8mm Remington Magnum

Might want to have a look at this article... pipsqueak? I think not.

I just wish there was more data around about the 8x64s to go by. I know the 8mm-06 is very similar but most data for that is underwhelming, so we are left to experiment. I might have to research the 8x68s and extrapolate between the 64 and the '06 round and see where that goes.

 

[bruce moulds]

bob, you have to compare sectional density of different calibre bullets to do apples and apples.
then b.c. comes into it as well.
the 8mm mag does in fact shoot flatter than all the others, if you need that.
the 8x64 must be so close to the 8mm/06 that it is not funny.
that is a good way to think of a comparison with the whelen - 8mm/06 vs 9mm/06.
each has its strengths, and you need to balance that against the requirement.
bruce.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

8mm Remington Magnum

Might want to have a look at this article... pipsqueak? I think not.

I just wish there was more data around about the 8x64s to go by. I know the 8mm-06 is very similar but most data for that is underwhelming, so we are left to experiment. I might have to research the 8x68s and extrapolate between the 64 and the '06 round and see where that goes.

@sestoppelman
I have read that before very good article and a very good cartridge BUT to get a proper view of the Whelen and how I load it ( according to the long talk I had with Nathan when I rang him) you need to look a the performance of the 358 Norma mag to get a REALISTIC view of the Whelen when it is properly loaded to modern standards.
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

bob, you have to compare sectional density of different calibre bullets to do apples and apples.
then b.c. comes into it as well.
the 8mm mag does in fact shoot flatter than all the others, if you need that.
the 8x64 must be so close to the 8mm/06 that it is not funny.
that is a good way to think of a comparison with the whelen - 8mm/06 vs 9mm/06.
each has its strengths, and you need to balance that against the requirement.
bruce.

@bruce moulds
The 8x64, 8mm ought six and the 338 ought six are that close to the Whelen when ALL are loaded properly it matter not a bit. Loaded to 2750 to 2900 fps with 220 grain projectiles out to sensible game ranges no game will pick 1mm in bullet diameter or 1 inch less drop.
But HELL I LOVE STIRRING THE POT and creating good conversations
Bob

 

[bruce moulds]

yes the right projectile for the job is probably more important.
bruce.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Art Lambart ll,
My rifle progression went from my Winchester M 70 .270 in the mid ‘70s to my Browning A Bolt .338 in the mid ‘90s when I started hunting elk. My father in law has a Remington 700 .338 and talked me into the .338. I had no other big game rifles in between. But, now thanks to the enablers (bastards) here, I have several larger bore rifles. Why? No real reason, except they’re different and fun to shoot and reload for. I would like to get a Browning X Bolt .270 though some day. As soon as I can budget a disposable $10-12k and can get two plus weeks off from work, I’ll plan an African Safari or a camel shoot in OZ.
CEH

@CoElkHunter
If'n you get to OZ mate call in my door is always open. I will gladly start you down the road to ruin with Bundy Rum, vegemite, flip flops and budge smugglers. I would also gladly lend you my WHELEN even tho I fear you would not be able to hand back such a wonderful caliber when you finish your hunt.
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Hey I know what a 35 Whelen is! I’ll be taking one on safari here in about 66 days, can’t wait.

@TNTDave
Stoke it up with a good 225 grain not a partition premium and go have fun. You won't be disappointed. Don't forget the hunt reports.
Bob

 

[leslie hetrick]

200 yard group 225 gr sierra sbt at 2700 fps from my van patton custon 98 mauser, i pulled the way right shot.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

200 yard group 225 gr sierra sbt at 2700 fps from my van patton custon 98 mauser, i pulled the way right shot.

@leslie hetrick
What's load are you using. Good group from a brand new barrel
Bob

 

[leslie hetrick]

varget 57-60 grs, i like imr 4895 also.

 

[CoElkHunter]

200 yard group 225 gr sierra sbt at 2700 fps from my van patton custon 98 mauser, i pulled the way right shot.

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Nice grouping!

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

varget 57-60 grs, i like imr 4895 also.

@leslie hetrick
Remember the 225 grain gameking is a short stubby bullet with not much bearing surface so you can safely put more coal an the fire. The same is true with the bearing surface on the old 250 grain Hornaday roundnose.
Bob