Pampered camps, really?...I've done a lifetime of remote solo wilderness hunting that was certainly a lot wilder than the pampered camps of "wild Africa." ...
Pampered camps, really?...I've done a lifetime of remote solo wilderness hunting that was certainly a lot wilder than the pampered camps of "wild Africa." ...
Well of course. But what is your point?I did driven shoots both in Hungary, Bulgaria and UK for pheasants and gray partridge.
They are fun and nice and I would do them again.
But just like doves in Argentina I consider them shooting and not hunting.
My point is simple.Well of course. But what is your point?
Well sure. But both can be tremendous experiences. I suspect the OP can figure out the difference as well. And we can get on a real slippery slope about hunting and shooting if we want to start mixing CBL and released PG on a game farm into the mix.My point is simple.
There's a vast difference between two and OP was asking about hunting.
I guess you would agree.
Again, is one outdoors and enjoying themselves and having a great experience? I don't care what you call it. I am thinking Spain or Morocco partridge hunt for 2025. As @Red Leg mentioned ladies are fine with those kinds of hunts as opposed to no frills DG hunts in Africa. The outfitter I use even has daily excursions for the companions while the shooters are out in the field.Hunting by definition is something you don't know what the outcome will be and I think it's the biggest difference!
There's a reason in UK driven pheasants, ducks, grouse etc... is called "shooting" and not hunting pedantic or not.
You are telling people to try different places in Africa than typical game farm experience which I totally agree but on this subject respectfully I do not.
Sure but If you read my post, I never said I oppose it.Well sure. But both can be tremendous experiences. I suspect the OP can figure out the difference as well. And we can get on a real slippery slope about hunting and shooting if we want to start mixing CBL and released PG on a game farm into the mix.
I am surprised also, did exactly that with no helicopter for hunting, terrific adventure.Surprised no one has mentioned New Zealand.....go get a tahr and chamois without a helicopter.
No one said you did. You should draw the line wherever you are comfortable with respect to what constitutes ethical "hunting" or the use of terminology. For instance, I draw mine at big game put and take operations - CBL, PG, or freak deer in North America. To me, those venues and those animals represent shooting. Hypocritically perhaps, I have no reservations shooting pen-raised birds at tower shoots or on some southern quail plantations. I enjoy "hunting" wild birds on the Texas coast or in Western Kansas more, but good dogs on a Georgia plantation is day well spent as well. Your lines in the sand may be different. I think all @Tanks and I were doing was offering some alternatives and perhaps somewhat different options to the OP and whomever else is interested in this thread.Sure but If you read my post, I never said I oppose it.
Been there , done that and I'll do it again and it's a lot of fun.
However it's my personal choice to draw the line somewhere about what's shooting and what's hunting and use the correct terminology.
That looks really cool. Where was that?Ok, This was a simple half day guided trip that was so much fun! Best friend and spouses had a ball. Even my wife got in on it, and you can tell it was a hoot from her smile. It was a target rich environment, with a LOT of shooting, and got to watch a great retriever at work. Doesn't get much better.....
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Yes, it was! Michael with Florida Adventure Outfitters. Ft. Lauderdale area.That looks like a blast!
That looks really cool. Where was that?
You should have had that big sucker mounted - maybe on its hind legs like a velociraptor.Ok, This was a simple half day guided trip that was so much fun! Best friend and spouses had a ball. Even my wife got in on it, and you can tell it was a hoot from her smile. It was a target rich environment, with a LOT of shooting, and got to watch a great retriever at work. Doesn't get much better.....
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He asked if we wanted to have it mounted. We opted not to, but he was keeping him for a mount as he said someone would want to do it if we didn't. He figured it was 40+ years old based on some he had had aged. It was a very fun time and we all learned a LOT about Iguanas! Shot a lot more that sank and were not recovered also. I guess the meat is a delicacy, but we actually did not give it a go. Maybe next time.You should have had that big sucker mounted - maybe on its hind legs like a velociraptor.
I assume they taste like chicken?
Ok, This was a simple half day guided trip that was so much fun! Best friend and spouses had a ball. Even my wife got in on it, and you can tell it was a hoot from her smile. It was a target rich environment, with a LOT of shooting, and got to watch a great retriever at work. Doesn't get much better.....
UNTIE ME, MICHAEL!!!!