Alec Baldwin Movie Set Accident

[WAB]

Not all the actors are untrained. So, lets not generalise:

Besides Keanu Reeves, i am sure there are others who are well trained and responsible.

I was not implying that they were. I was stating that it is difficult to believe that any actor is allowed to handle a firearm without appropriate training.

 

[PerH]

Wont surprise me i they try to use it some antigun someway or other ,since they got a martyr now. Or blame it on armourer.

If they had some decency if he got sentence,part of it should be a long term NrA Gun Safety Course.

( if only he had done what he said h would do when the US elected decency and respect for people in 2016,all this would not have happend)

 

[Philip Glass]

My son is starting out in the film business and I have personally met Alec Baldwin. It was during the film festivals for Trophy the film when we met. Alec, as you can imagine, was terrible to me at the film festival. He was cordial off stage I must say. His wife, Hilaria, was very nice to me however. That said we all know he is a jerk and avid anti.
My opinion is that although Alec had the gun he is not responsible for this tragedy. Those running the set and in charge of the prop gun should have ensured 100% that there was no live ammo anywhere on the set.
Yes I know Alec should have had the good sense to unload the gun and check it. This in no way relieves the others from responsibility.

 

[CBH Australia]

My son is starting out in the film business and I have personally met Alec Baldwin. It was during the film festivals for Trophy the film when we met. Alec, as you can imagine, was terrible to me at the film festival. He was cordial off stage I must say. His wife, Hilaria, was very nice to me however. That said we all know he is a jerk and avid anti.
My opinion is that although Alec had the gun he is not responsible for this tragedy. Those running the set and in charge of the prop gun should have ensured 100% that there was no live ammo anywhere on the set.
Yes I know Alec should have had the good sense to unload the gun and check it. This in no way relieves the others from responsibility.

It should not relieve him of his responsibility either.

 

[shootist~]

Baldwin was a producer and probably calling most of the shots (no pun) as to how things were being run on-set. He had to have seen some if not most of the unsafe practices going on. There is liability there, but how it will apply to an entitled Hollywood elitist remains to be seen.

The D.A. was clear in noting he was the one that pulled the trigger, at least.

I cannot even imagine pointing a gun at a person (at close range no-less), without checking the chamber/magazine/cylinder myself. Even if someone trusted told me it was clear, (or loaded with dummies in this case). If rules did not allow that, then I would want the Armorer to show me the dummies as they were loaded.

And don't forget, the Armorer is not the person that handed the revolver to Baldwin. Something else he would have been aware of.

 

[rdog]

Keep your booger hook off the bang switch.

I can remember in the Australian Army during basic training in the 1960s if you put your finger in the trigger guard when carrying your rifle, the instructor would hit your finger with a big stick, they probably would not be allowed to do that to day. Taught my sons to carry their rifles that way, they are in there 50s now & still do .

 

[sureshot375]

My son is starting out in the film business and I have personally met Alec Baldwin. It was during the film festivals for Trophy the film when we met. Alec, as you can imagine, was terrible to me at the film festival. He was cordial off stage I must say. His wife, Hilaria, was very nice to me however. That said we all know he is a jerk and avid anti.
My opinion is that although Alec had the gun he is not responsible for this tragedy. Those running the set and in charge of the prop gun should have ensured 100% that there was no live ammo anywhere on the set.
Yes I know Alec should have had the good sense to unload the gun and check it. This in no way relieves the others from responsibility.

How was Hilaria’s English when you all talked??? Lol. She may be nice, but she’s a total fraud!!

 

[Philip Glass]

How was Hilaria’s English when you all talked??? Lol. She may be nice, but she’s a total fraud!!

I dont seem to remember a problem with her English. I can tell you that when she showed up at the cocktail pre party “I was like wow who is that?” The cameras were clicking

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

My opinion is that although Alec had the gun he is not responsible for this tragedy. Those running the set and in charge of the prop gun should have ensured 100% that there was no live ammo anywhere on the set.
Yes I know Alec should have had the good sense to unload the gun and check it. This in no way relieves the others from responsibility.

If Baldwin gets off without any charges, then all future shootings in the hood or wherever will attempt to use the "Baldwin defense". I can see it now, some gang banger shoots another gang banger 15 times, swears his homie handed him the gun and said it wasn't loaded.

 

[spike.t]

I see he is now for banning guns on film sets

BBC News - Alec Baldwin makes first public comments on 'one in a trillion' shooting

Alec Baldwin makes first public comments on 'one in a trillion' shooting

In his first public comments, the actor says the cinematographer he accidentally shot was his friend.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[bowjijohn]

In doing so perhaps he is trying to suggest that it was a random accident ?

I would consider this to be an industrial accident resulting in a death (unless there was some deliberate act of course)

In the UK, investigators would be not just looking at what happened but also at policies and procedures; at training, qualifications and competencies. At the H & S culture of the company

There would be the likely charge of ‘Corporate Manslaughter’ levelled at the directors of the organisation if it was shown that they failed to meet their statutory obligations in both systems and actions

now clearly that would be different in the US as US law is different

however I would imagine that similar logic would still apply

there is a further duty of care - that of someone handling a firearm- a clear duty to ensure it is safe and used safely. I don’t see how any corporate procedures would exempt an individual from that responsibility

perhaps it is like getting into an unsafe car?

It might belong to your employer- he might have said it was road worthy - but you got in it, you drove it and you crashed it and killed someone- therefore your responsibility even if the company is also liable

 

[Jörg Krüger]

I see he is now for banning guns on film sets

BBC News - Alec Baldwin makes first public comments on 'one in a trillion' shooting

Alec Baldwin makes first public comments on 'one in a trillion' shooting

In his first public comments, the actor says the cinematographer he accidentally shot was his friend.

www.bbc.co.uk

How about he should just be hanging on a rope seeing that it was a Western movie. What a piece of sheit he is

 

[sureshot375]

I dont seem to remember a problem with her English. I can tell you that when she showed up at the cocktail pre party “I was like wow who is that?” The cameras were clicking

It came out a while back that she had made up this totally bogus story about being from Spain. Turns out she’s just a regular old white girl from Boston.

 

[Newboomer]

It came out a while back that she had made up this totally bogus story about being from Spain. Turns out she’s just a regular old white girl from Boston.

Sounds like she's another Follywierd phony married to a lying fraud.

 

[Cervus elaphus]

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Somebody hands you a gun, you aim it at a nearby person and pull the trigger.
The buck stops with you Baldwin, you were in control of the set, you didn't check to see if the gun was loaded, you probably didn't know how to, you didn't follow any firearms safety, you are guilty of manslaughter and you can go to jail. He's a nasty vindictive leftist turd and I have no sympathy for him.

 

[rdog]

Somebody hands you a gun, you aim it at a nearby person and pull the trigger.
The buck stops with you Baldwin, you were in control of the set, you didn't check to see if the gun was loaded, you probably didn't know how to, you didn't follow any firearms safety, you are guilty of manslaughter and you can go to jail. He's a nasty vindictive leftist turd and I have no sympathy for him.

Does that mean you do not like him?

 

[mark-hunter]

Looking at the history of movies, Baldwin is placed well in my mind.
The hunt for Red October, was a great submarine movie.
Ok, based on bestseller by Tom Clancy, submarine captain played by Sean Connery, and Baldwin as Jack Ryan. (with Tom Clancy book, and Sean Connery around, the movie just has to be good... easier to tag along)
But of all the Jack Ryans in various movies, in my mind he was the best in that role. in the Red october.
(Others played Jack Ryan: Harrison Ford: Clear and Present danger, and Patriot games, then Ben Aflec in the Sum of all fears, and Cris Pine in Shadow recruit)

Just wanted to mention his presence in popular culture.

 

[TroyF]

I always thought he was a shit actor, even before he opened his mouth. he has done a lot of movies because he is cheap.

 

[pjaln]

I don't know much of Alec Baldwin , nor did I know he was an Anti.
Let's not forget a human lost their life in a tragic accident. Probably going to become a statistic that is used by the antis.
I had no idea who Helyna Hutchins was but sadly she's gone leaving family behind and another crew person injured.
This might not be the place to make light of the irony of Baldwin's situation. He shot and killed another person, unintentionally, accidentally and perhaps someone will be held accountable.

believe me ,if you knew more about him your sympathy would go away real quick

 

[TroyF]

Seen a thing his fingerprints and dna where on the loaded rounds,