9.3x62mm vs. .375 H&H Mag

[guerero]

Ok, but honestly, is 9,3x62 treated the same in Africa as .375H&H?
Is i9,3x62 legal for DG?

 

[WAB]

Ok, but honestly, is 9,3x62 treated the same in Africa as .375H&H?
Is i9,3x62 legal for DG?

Many posts on this if
You do a search. Some countries yes, some no.

 

[Rare Breed]

@Rule 303
While the 9.3x62 and 35 Whelen we I'll NEVER EQUAL the 375H&H in sheer muzzle energy there's a things called section density, bullet construction and velocity.

For the 375H&H to equal the sd of a 320gn 9.3x62 or a 310gn 35 cal you have to step upto a 350gn 375H&H.
With the old loads in the 375H&H the 9.3x62 was fully it's equal and better in the penetration stakes.
If you want a good read get hold of the 9.3x62 journal. It explains the benefits of the 9.3x62 over the 375H&H and the reasons a lot of PHs of yore loved the 9.3x62.
Bob

Bob you surprise me…i thought every caliber ever discussed always comes back to your 35 Whelen!!! lol!!!

 

[93marlin]

Bob you surprise me…i thought every caliber ever discussed always comes back to your 35 Whelen!!! lol!!!

Nah, he finally saw the light! He's leaning towards or on a 243...

 

[John458Lott]

Just look at the case sizes? The 9.3 X 62 is basically a 30-06 sized case necked up to 0.366". To say it's the equal of a 375 H&H is just wishful thinking. The benefit in a 9.3 X 62 is lethality without excessive recoil or at least giving the shooter a choice of a recoil level less than a 375H&H yet still effective on DG.

Trying to load a 9.2 X 62 to match a 375 H&H well that has been done before. Anyone hear of the 9.3 X 66 Sako or the 370 Sako Magnum? Where is that now? If you hotrod the 9.3 to 375h&H levels you get pretty much the same recoil maybe a little less due to smaller powder charge but potentially expose yourself to overpressure problems. Federal significantly reduced the published velocities of its loading shortly after its release.

Why bother? They are both great rounds. Take your pick. By the same token the H&H gives you the option to load down as well.

The biggest advantage of the 9.3 IMHO is firepower. 5 down in the mag instead of 3.

 

[PerH]

The 19 gram TUG in 9,3 have for sure taken a lot of game through the ages and some of them quite spectacular shots that left the very experienced guides in awe

 

[John Wasmuth]

Yes but you need to compare apples with apples, so you would need to compare the X64 with modern powders would you not.

Ok, but for giggles we can add the .375 Ruger into the mix and really muff things up!!!

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Bob you surprise me…i thought every caliber ever discussed always comes back to your 35 Whelen!!! lol!!!

@Rare Breed
As much as I love my 35 Whelen I known there's better big game rounds and worse ones but when it comes to versatility the Whelen covers a lot of bases. I can't afford a lot of guns so I make sure what I get will handle ANYTHING I care to hunt even DG in a pinch if I could.
To me the Whelen is the king of versatility light loads with handgun bullets or cast for small game. 225s for reach out and smack down on medium to large game. Then the big 275gn, 280s or 310s for bone crunching brute power that's easily managed. With the 250s it give reasonable range snd plenty of power up close and out yonder.
Bob

 

[John Wasmuth]

@Rare Breed
As much as I love my 35 Whelen I known there's better big game rounds and worse ones but when it comes to versatility the Whelen covers a lot of bases. I can't afford a lot of guns so I make sure what I get will handle ANYTHING I care to hunt even DG in a pinch if I could.
To me the Whelen is the king of versatility light loads with handgun bullets or cast for small game. 225s for reach out and smack down on medium to large game. Then the big 275gn, 280s or 310s for bone crunching brute power that's easily managed. With the 250s it give reasonable range snd plenty of power up close and out yonder.
Bob

Truth mate.

 

[Rule 303]

Ok, but for giggles we can add the .375 Ruger into the mix and really muff things up!!!

375 Ruger, 375 H&H same, same.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

Nah, he finally saw the light! He's leaning towards or on a 243...

@93marlin
Leaning towards it so I have something to hang onto so I don't fall over laughing at your comment. I don't want a case of 243itis, I may need to be put down if I get that.
Bob

 

[RayAtkinson]

I defy any one to tell me the difference between a 9.3x62 loaded with a 286 Nosler and RL-17 or 16 on a buffalo, Hippo or Lion to a 375 H&H, both do a good job. My 9,3x62 shoots a 285 gr. bullet at the same velocity as my 375 shoots a 300 gr, bullet,, the difference of a 22 short!!! The 375 can cook up another 100 fps when loaded max, but nobody can tell by watching the shooting of the DG that there is a difference IMO..As I've aged the lighter recoil of the 9.3x62 is noticeable and appreciated..

 

[Rule 303]

I defy any one to tell me the difference between a 9.3x62 loaded with a 286 Nosler and RL-17 or 16 on a buffalo, Hippo or Lion to a 375 H&H, both do a good job. My 9,3x62 shoots a 285 gr. bullet at the same velocity as my 375 shoots a 300 gr, bullet,, the difference of a 22 short!!! The 375 can cook up another 100 fps when loaded max, but nobody can tell by watching the shooting of the DG that there is a difference IMO..As I've aged the lighter recoil of the 9.3x62 is noticeable and appreciated..

So you are saying there is no difference between a 35 Whelen and a 375

 

[BeeMaa]

@93marlin
Leaning towards it so I have something to hang onto so I don't fall over laughing at your comment. I don't want a case of 243itis, I may need to be put down if I get that.
Bob

So if I "put you down" with a 243WIN...will you die? Probably take a 35W to do the job on a manly man like you @Bob Nelson 35Whelen.

 

[CoElkHunter]

So if I "put you down" with a 243WIN...will you die? Probably take a 35W to do the job on a manly man like you @Bob Nelson 35Whelen.

What if you shot Townsend @Bob Nelson 35Whelen in the arse with his own .25-20 using an 86gr. Woodleigh Hydro? Would he die or just crawl to get his .35 WHELEN? Ha! Ha! Ha!

 

[BeeMaa]

What if you shot Townsend @Bob Nelson 35Whelen in the arse with his own .25-20 using an 86gr. Woodleigh Hydro? Would he die or just crawl to get his .35 WHELEN? Ha! Ha! Ha!

243WIN or 25-30BNW...either way, I'm not gonna be a happy camper.

 

[Ruraldoc]

I have a CZ 550 in 9.3x62 and a Winchester M70 Alaskan in 375 H&H.

With factory ammo, the 375 is faster and shoots flatter.

With full pressure handloads the 9.3 is pretty close to a factory load in the 375.

On plains game, it doesn’t matter. On dangerous game, I have more confidence in a 375.

I have used both a good bit on feral hogs and there isn’t really any difference since both kill very quickly.

But on Buffalo I personally don’t see the need in going any smaller than a 375. Certainly not on anything bigger than a buffalo.

Suitable ammo is widely available all over Africa for the 375 as well.

I may use my 9.3x62 on Eland for which it seems absolutely perfect.

 

[BeeMaa]

To quote every hot rodder since the dawn of combustion engines...

"There is no replacement for displacement."

9.3mm does not equal .375 inch no matter how hard you try...physics still apply. Choose your cartridge wisely.

 

[WAB]

To quote every hot rodder since the dawn of combustion engines...

"There is no replacement for displacement."

9.3mm does not equal .375 inch no matter how hard you try...physics still apply. Choose your cartridge wisely.

It will not match it on paper, to me that is irrelevant, the real question is, will it match it in the field. Having used both, I say the answer is a resounding YES!

 

[Rule 303]

It will not match it on paper, to me that is irrelevant, the real question is, will it match it in the field. Having used both, I say the answer is a resounding YES!

Well you are in total disagreement with a bloke I referred to in one of my earlier posts who has used both and claims the 9.3X62 in Not a 375 in use on animals and he has shot a metric shit ton of each game groups of pigs, horses and scrub cattle.