Not to mention possible bolt face work, depending on what chambering you go with.
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Not to mention possible bolt face work, depending on what chambering you go with.
@Axle2010: It doesn't matter what anybody thinks: If you want one, Go for it! I'm sure you'll Love it!
Yeah they're coming at it from every possible direction the last few years. They're already made it so expensive most of us can't shoot like we used toExcellent Form! lol. Little last min .. windage? ;
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This 460 thread & it's Ban in Canada, really makes me wonder how long until the US follows suit.
Will the .500's, or Banning Ammunition period, be next. "Loopholes" around the 2nd.
Like the Student Loan Bailout (Another thread, Sorry)
Well, I ran 30 rounds through my 460 this week and the brass in in the stainless steel pins cleaning up now.Yeah they're coming at it from every possible direction the last few years. They're already made it so expensive most of us can't shoot like we used to
Tarbe I've seen/read a few places that mention a lot of case stretch with the 460. Is this much of an issue or just with full pressure hot loads? At $200+ a box for factory ammo I hope to get at least several reloads from the brass.Well, I ran 30 rounds through my 460 this week and the brass in in the stainless steel pins cleaning up now.
Will load them back up and do it again!
Second that . Two of my friends own 416’s. A Winchester Model 70 and a Ruger No1. The Winchester is a relative pussy to shoot. The Ruger however is decidedly unpleasant.Stock design plays a part in felt recoil too. The typical Weatherby stocks, aesthetics aside, are usually well suited for a relatively high mounted scope, but not always the best for felt recoil. Take a look at a 450 Rigby stock, vs a 460 WM…
Excellent Form! lol. Little last min .. windage? ;
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This 460 thread & it's Ban in Canada, really makes me wonder how long until the US follows suit.
Will the .500's, or Banning Ammunition period, be next. "Loopholes" around the 2nd.
Like the Student Loan Bailout (Another thread, Sorry)
Most of my loading with this case family has been for 450 Dakota and 416 Rigby....only very recently 460 Weatherby.Tarbe I've seen/read a few places that mention a lot of case stretch with the 460. Is this much of an issue or just with full pressure hot loads? At $200+ a box for factory ammo I hope to get at least several reloads from the brass.
... and a sore shoulder. LOLFrom my cold dead fingers ...
Most of my loading with this case family has been for 450 Dakota and 416 Rigby....only very recently 460 Weatherby.
I can say the cases are stout, the taper minimal and in a properly chambered rifle with properly sized brass I really don't think case stretching will be an issue, assuming the loads are not excessive.
This is just based on my experience with about 600 handloads in these chamberings mentioned above.
If a Mark V rifle, with factory loads, it will most likely be brutal. A properly built and weighted rifle is still a handful with factory loads, but substantially more manageable than a Weatherby offering. Can be loaded down to .458 Win. Etc, but kind of defeats the purported purpose.My son recently acquired a 460WM. After seenig the performance and punishment from mosly the wrong end of the rifle, it baffles me as to why this cartridge was developed. Then it dawns on me, this rifle was way ahead of its time. I can hear the conversation around the campfire where the hunter discribed in great detail how, with his high powered telescope, e he killed the elephant with a 647 yard (genuinelyf a Mark ranged) brain shot. What a game changer.....
Mine dropped in its tracks at less than 20 yards.My son recently acquired a 460WM. After seenig the performance and punishment from mosly the wrong end of the rifle, it baffles me as to why this cartridge was developed. Then it dawns on me, this rifle was way ahead of its time. I can hear the conversation around the campfire where the hunter discribed in great detail how, with his high powered telescope, he killed the elephant with a 647 yard (genuinely ranged) brain shot. What a game changer.......
The rifle will most likely be the Weatherby Mark V (I wish they would offer it in a nice satin oil finish though) and after a couple boxes of factory stuff I'll be handloading for it. I've never shot any of the heavy kickers yet, only up to 300 wm and Buffalo Bore 4570's so far but neither of those bother me. Yeah I keep reading about the magic behind that .416 bullet, that's why I want one too
Colorado I've gotten a 375H&H and 416 Ruger since starting this thread and after reading a lot I'm thinking about a 458 WM next then a Jeffery when budget allows. I still like the 460 but that'll probably be a semi custom deal since I don't want one in the Mark V rifle.My advice is do not go from a 44/70 tp a 460 Weatherby really really bad idea. It's not just the recoil, but the recoil velocity that is the killer. I recommend going for a sedate 500 jeffery or 505 Gibbs. You get the glamor of a real African elephant anchoring rifle, get over that magic .50 mark and it will hurt you less.
My advice is do not go from a 44/70 tp a 460 Weatherby really really bad idea. It's not just the recoil, but the recoil velocity that is the killer. I recommend going for a sedate 500 jeffery or 505 Gibbs. You get the glamor of a real African elephant anchoring rifle, get over that magic .50 mark and it will hurt you less.