458 Win Mag

[NoStepOnSnek]

I'm leaning towards a red dot also because I would think in those bigger magnum actions the lpvo may not span the length of the action and a local gunsmith told me it may not be wise to run a full length rail across the action due to the size of the cartridge, of course I'm going for a vortex or a sig red with a QD mount....correct me and give me some insight but I have a vortex SPARC on my 12 gauge turkey gun and a 45° sig romeo on one of my ar's so and so far the SPARC held up even with magnum loads....would it cut the mustard for a 458 or is the recoil more substantial than a 12 guage

I’m usually a vortex guy but after talking to some of the guys on here and a guy from the outfit I’m going with I bit the bullet and got a trijicon rmr. Basically what I was told is vortex will replace anything, but the rmr won’t need replacing. I’d love to run a test on it if 458 ammo wasn’t so expensive

 

[DelRock83]

Shoot both and select from there. My bias is the .375 just because I can handle the rifle recoil. I'm not a macho man anymore, being 100% military disabled. I'm forced to modify my rifles just so my shoulders stay connected when I pull the trigger. I'm forced to port my barrels or attach muzzle brakes and just live through the snide comments.

Man I can't hear out of my right ear since I left Afghanistan and I'm going through the gauntlet trying to get ANY percentage...lol

 

[Foxi]

Man I can't hear out of my right ear since I left Afghanistan and I'm going through the gauntlet trying to get ANY percentage...lol

No one makes derogatory comments about someone like you.
You hear me, no one. At least not in the forum, and the others can visit you in the moonlight.
Good luck in the future.

Foxi

 

[DelRock83]

No one makes derogatory comments about someone like you.
You hear me, no one. At least not in the forum, and the others can visit you in the moonlight.
Good luck in the future.

Foxi

I'm out of context but I wasn't bashing or hating on anyone I'm out of the loop

 

[Foxi]

I'm out of context but I wasn't bashing or hating on anyone I'm out of the loop

I mixed up the recipients, my apologies.

 

[DelRock83]

oh no problem lol

I mixed up the recipients, my apologies

 

[DelRock83]

I’m usually a vortex guy but after talking to some of the guys on here and a guy from the outfit I’m going with I bit the bullet and got a trijicon rmr. Basically what I was told is vortex will replace anything, but the rmr won’t need replacing. I’d love to run a test on it if 458 ammo wasn’t so expensive

Another subject on the 458....is it TOO powerful and limited in accuracy to be effective on crocodile....I mean if you DO connect behind the eye wouldn't there be nothing left....the ONLY dangerous game I'm looking to pursue on my bucket list is buffalo and crocodile....I know the 458 is more than adequate for buffalo but will it bust that croc skull up as bad as I think it would if one connected

 

[DelRock83]

I need a little more of you guys wisdom a lot of reviews said that the zastavas are a little light for 458 with the rifle only weighing around 8 pounds I would assume with an optic could probably get it to 8 1/2 to 9 pounds I was considering putting it in a boyds straight comb stock but what are some suggestions you guys may have in adding some weight to it...I mean I know the pros and cons of a heavier rifle but I'm weighing towards first shot accuracy and recoil management so hopefully the ish going DOWNRANGE will prevent the ish from coming back UPRANGE...if that makes sense...LMAO

Shoot both and select from there. My bias is the .375 just because I can handle the rifle recoil. I'm not a macho man anymore, being 100% military disabled. I'm forced to modify my rifles just so my shoulders stay connected when I pull the trigger. I'm forced to port my barrels or attach muzzle brakes and just live through the snide comments

 

[NoStepOnSnek]

Another subject on the 458....is it TOO powerful and limited in accuracy to be effective on crocodile....I mean if you DO connect behind the eye wouldn't there be nothing left....the ONLY dangerous game I'm looking to pursue on my bucket list is buffalo and crocodile....I know the 458 is more than adequate for buffalo but will it bust that croc skull up as bad as I think it would if one connected

So as far as accuracy goes, I’ve put shots on each other at 50 yards with a rmr, and I’m sure that can be replicated out to 100 with a proper scope, especially with the right ammo and the right hunter.
I have yet to hunt Africa (scheduled for 2027) and this is my first year taking the 458 for any game, but seeing what it does to watermelons (a fun target) I would say that damage would be relatively severe. It could probably be minimized with a solid, or you could practice a neck shot. This is all being said with no croc hunting experience, but I feel like any rifle 375 and up would do substantial damage to the skull. When I was considering adding croc to my bag, the solution I came up with was to have a taxidermist do a bronze cast over the area that got blown out. There seems to be several taxidermy studios in South Africa that do bronze casts of other skulls, so it should be doable

 

[coreydb]

DelRock...everyone has their preferences and success stories, as well as their failures; me included. My first DG hunt I took the advice of one of the members here and started with the minimum acceptable DG caliber-the .375H&H. I took my brother's rifle to the range just to see what it felt like, and shot and shot it until I became comfortable with it. I went up to a .416 Rem mag (borrowed), one round and couldn't take another without a muzzle brake. A 416 Rigby was beyond trying...and boy do I still want one. But that's my reality. Take the advice from the others in this forum and try them all, or as many as you feasibly can! Then make your selection.