458 Lott rifle build

[RLL]

Any other recommendations on stock makers worth contacting?

 

[Flewis]

The intention of this rifle has more and bigger than buff in its future.

That’s why my Lott holds 5 down.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

Fair enough. If nothing else, it would increase the potential resale value of your rifle. Just didn't want you breaking the bank looking for minimal gains.

I could have bought an extended magazine bottom metal (1+4) for my 404 build on Mauser 98. But that would have required a custom stock. Also, I figure if I can't put some poor buffalo down with four shots, I probably deserve to be stomped. Anyway, my PH is always backing me up with a bigger gun ... and a whole lot of experience. I have a better chance of being run over by a drunk in a Walmart parking lot.

 

[RLL]

I could have bought an extended magazine bottom metal (1+4) for my 404 build on Mauser 98. But that would have required a custom stock. Also, I figure if I can't put some poor buffalo down with four shots, I probably deserve to be stomped. Anyway, my PH is always backing me up with a bigger gun ... and a whole lot of experience. I have a better chance of being run over by a drunk in a Walmart parking lot.

I’m having to go the custom stock route anyway with this action. Nothing really off the shelf for a Dakota action. I was going to use an Echols Legend but a classic looking wooden stock is the current plan. An upgrade in bottom metal isn’t really going to add that much to the cost of the build at this stage.

 

[WAB]

Three or four down is probably enough. But you guys need to spend more time with Buffalo if you think that will always get the job done, even with the PH weighing in.

 

[FredIII]

Personally I’d rather have to many shots on hand than trying to reload in the heat of a kill.
Just me but more is better.

 

[Flewis]

Yeah, sometimes they just seem bulletproof.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

I’m having to go the custom stock route anyway with this action. Nothing really off the shelf for a Dakota action. I was going to use an Echols Legend but a classic looking wooden stock is the current plan. An upgrade in bottom metal isn’t really going to add that much to the cost of the build at this stage.

Understood. Yes, extended bottom metal isn't a huge jump in cost outlay. For me the custom stock was a deal breaker. It was important that I do as much of the work as possible to make it "my gun build." The only thing I couldn't do was attach the new barrel and open the bolt face. Everything else was my work: Timney trigger, re-engineered FN rail to fit BRNO military receiver, Warne QD rings, mated new 416 Rem magnum bottom metal to standard Mauser receiver, extended the loading ramp, reshaped rails to load thicker 404 cartridges, reshaped the extractor to load and snap over on wider rimmed 404, fit action and barrels to semi-inleted stock, mounted the recoil pad, bedded the action, installed 3-position side safety. The specialized tools I used were horizontal drill press (Shopsmith), Dremel tool, and recoil pad. jig. Not sure how much work you intend to do but I would encourage everyone to put their oar into it as much as possible, especially if the intention is to keep the gun. Make it an heirloom with some personal flavor.

 

[Bert01]

I agree with the round count not being “the” most important. Although I haven’t gone after Buffalo yet, I’ve done some training in the faster uses of a bolt rifle. That being said I would think the carrying comfort would be diminished with the drop magazine. In a hunt where there may be some long walks involved that may mean more than an extra round. You will have backup also I assume, but I understand not counting on that.

 

[450 Dakota]

I would get ahold of Parkwest Arms. From my understanding they acquired the Dakota rights/stuff and are building them. They should be able to provide you with a, what was Dakota drop magazine and might even stock it for you. Their prices are more than Dakotas was but what isn’t now.

 

[RLL]

I would get ahold of Parkwest Arms. From my understanding they acquired the Dakota rights/stuff and are building them. They should be able to provide you with a, what was Dakota drop magazine and might even stock it for you. Their prices are more than Dakotas was but what isn’t now.

Good suggestion. And I’ve been down that road. That’s how I acquired the action from a connection that works there. New-old stock that parkwest wasn’t going to build. They wouldve stocked it but at their new going rates…plus I wanted to do more myself as well.

 

[Jetjockey]

It’s at least worth a call to contact Ebbie Jones at Tsavo Custom Firearms. He saved my butt after another stock maker botched my PG rifle. While he simply duplicated my Kimber stock, he did a fantastic job, and the price was more than right. Plus he seems to have a great supplier for wood, and he had a bunch of beautiful Turkish blanks to chose from.

 

[Daniel Cary]

There's high end Makers that build 500/505 & 585's to Hold 5. Regardless of "why", if a Drop Box takes that Massive Swelling away in the Stock (around the Magazine)? .. Please do ;

Looking forward to your Project, all the best.

 

[Inline6]

Yeah, never heard of a buffalo being shot more than 3or 4 times.

Shot mine 9 times... the first 3 were money. Then it was trying to anchor him. Had only hear stories like that, alway chocked it up to bad bullet placement. That was with a 416REM and 400gr AFrames, I'm now shooting a 458Lott and wondering if a 500JEFF is the better move.

 

[Wyatt Smith]

I bet that no one ever at the end of a gunfight, DG charge, or even a duck hunt said, “Man, I wish my gun held less ammo!”

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

There's high end Makers that build 500/505 & 585's to Hold 5. Regardless of "why", if a Drop Box takes that Massive Swelling away in the Stock (around the Magazine)? .. Please do ;
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Looking forward to your Project, all the best.

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[Flewis]

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My 505 and 500j hold 3 down with enough room to get one under the extractor. I would love 4 down

 

[RLL]

There's high end Makers that build 500/505 & 585's to Hold 5. Regardless of "why", if a Drop Box takes that Massive Swelling away in the Stock (around the Magazine)? .. Please do ;
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Looking forward to your Project, all the best.

Thanks Daniel and I appreciate your comments. Would love to see an engineered Mannlicher style rotary mag with 6/7 rounds down if possible. Would be unique for sure…

 

[BeeMaa]

There's high end Makers that build 500/505 & 585's to Hold 5. Regardless of "why", if a Drop Box takes that Massive Swelling away in the Stock (around the Magazine)? .. Please do ;
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Looking forward to your Project, all the best.

Not sure where you did up all these beautiful pictures, but they are nice to look at. This one looks like it weighs a TON!

 

[WAB]

Shot mine 9 times... the first 3 were money. Then it was trying to anchor him. Had only hear stories like that, alway chocked it up to bad bullet placement. That was with a 416REM and 400gr AFrames, I'm now shooting a 458Lott and wondering if a 500JEFF is the better move.

Wasn’t my buffalo, but I’ve been in one of those gunfights. Until you’ve seen it, it is difficult to believe. Not the norm, but it does happen. It makes me wonder if sometimes we bump into a bull full of adrenaline from another fight that we weren’t privy to.