Denvir Tire
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First 30-06
Second 30/06
Third thirty ought six
Second 30/06
Third thirty ought six
Hunters that reload LOVE the 30-06 (probably the perfect round for a reloader). If you buy factory ammo, it really doesn't matter.
In the western United States, I probably see 5 times more 30-06 rifles in the field than I do 308s. Most of the guys I see with the 308s tend to be the ones I see hog hunting with a "tactical rifle" or a semi-auto.
The crazy thing is; In California, I am seeing most 308 guys switching over to 6.5 Creedmoor.
Hi HP!
You're right. Whole lots of different 6.5's at the ranges anymore, with some of the guys heading west.
With most planning to rake long range shots on a big animal. Yet , very few are shooting at ranges over 100 yards and fewer not using the bench only.
And when the time comes to take that 400 yard shot, they will take it and do so by aiming "AT" the whole of the large animal and then blame everything under the sun when it runs off.
A fella after seeing me shoot my 6.5 Grendel off the bench got one himself and proclaimed it" a 500 yard killer". A killer of what? Sure, maybe groundhogs and such, but deer? Maybe with luck, but without a lot of it, i don't think so.
Hey? Do you ever regret getting rid of your 26 Noslers?
The 6.5 Creedmoor was/is a marketing coup. A good round, yes, but doesn't do anything more than the myriad of 6.5 cartridges that preceded it. No regrets on the 26 Noslers, didn't have the ambition to set them back every few hundred rounds. The 28s aren't any slouches on throats either. If I had to do it all over again, I'd go with that round in .30 caliber and shoot weights in the 168 to 215 range.
I have a handful of 264/ pre 64's and have only rebarreled two of them, one with a stainless cryo barrel and after sighting in neither have been shot t the range again.....nor have they went to visit prarie dog town either. Nothing burns out barrels like ground dwellers.Though the temptations are great.
Thanks for reminding me to setback my 6.5-.284. Four hundred rounds in three days shooting 130 brain Berger HVLDs at PDs will do that.
here in alaska, i believe more ammo is likely burned at the bench with the .308. i believe more ammo is expended at game with the 30-06.
the 308 was designed to duplicate the 06 with a 150 gr bullet and pretty much does that. when bullets of greater weight are utilized, they encroach into the case capacity of the 308 and the 06 starts to pull away in bullet velocity.
now the velocity gains are not earth shattering, just an honest 100 fps and up as bullet weight goes up. both are fine cartridges, capable of anything needed as long as a good bullet is placed in the vitals of an animal at reasonable ranges, so the bullet is able to operate properly.
i use the 06, simply because it is inexpensive to shoot, i don't shoot it a lot, and it give more performance. the tiny bit of accuracy i might give up to the 308 is mostly theoretical. the truth is at the ranges i shoot at game, the 06 is more than accurate enough. actually more accurate than i can shoot from field conditions anyway.
another thought about long range shooting, a bullet needs to be going at least 1900-2000 fps to operate properly, open up and transfer energy/mushroom out. how far can a person shoot at game and have his bullet do its job?? thats the question that every long range shooter should know and be able to tell you instantly if you ask it. if he doesn't know THAT answer, should not be shooting far.