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Those would be great for load development and practice. For Africa though I would probably stick with Woodleigh Weldcores and CEB or Degol solids. I think the Hawk bullets have a softer jacket and are definitely no bonded.

Hawk also has 200gr bullets that might be more fun to shoot. I have not ordered anything from them in a few years but the prices are OK and no complaints on service.

MS 9x56 is correct and Hawk Bullets has them in several diameters to fit. You will hear some folks speak poorly of Hawk but in my experience they work well at 9x56 velocities.

For the guys in the US, Raven Rocks in Virginia is talking with these folks regarding importing their products. He told me he contacted RWS also and they were not interested.

The later actions were made in Mexico and are actually pretty good also. I believe that if you have them re-heat treated they are likely safe for most modern 60,000psi cartridges. I am nearly finished with the one in the photos. The stock is off being checkered. It is a 1930s vintage with the...

For a reloading room/workshop you need all the light you can get and showing off the trophies is secondary. Just sayin. At least that is how I built mine over 20 years ago. And make it twice as big as you think you need. Mine is full and overflowing to my barn.

Here is a photo of the 400gr solid seated deep enough for the Mauser standard magazine along with the solid bullet and a Woodleigh 401gr Weldcore. Because of the length of the solid it seats pretty deep in the case but still leaves plenty of room for my RL15 load at just under 2,300fps as tested...

I tested them in my original Schuler and they did feed fine from either side of the magazine

I have discovered a solution to the need for solids for the 11.2x72 in the US. Cutting Edge makes a .440 Safari Solid that is 450grains. I made a fixture for my lathe and have cut them down to 400gr. which is correct for the cartridge. I haven't shot any yet but I'm fairly certain that they will...

The best source of information on all of the different Mauser actions is the Mauser shop manual by Jerry Kuhnhausen. It has tables in the back with all of the different variations and dimensions.

I'm not sure but it seems that you are saying that RL15 loads recoil less than with H4831. Is this with equal velocities that you have measured with a cronograph?

I'm pretty sure York acquired a 470 double. If he shoots it half as good as he did his 458 the angry dangerous game is in trouble.

Ordered mine from Rigby and got it in 5 days from the UK.

I have killed 4 buffalo. I love the 40s so have used the 450-400 3" in a Ruger #1, a mauser bolt action in 404 jeffery, and last year with a double rifle in 450-400 3-1/4" nitro. Both of the 450-400 Buffalo were 1 shot kills as was the first one with a 375 Ackley. The one with the 404 ended with...

Jumbo also owns a beautiful lodge on the ocean just South of Pemba. We stayed there for a couple nights after coming out from the Kambako camp. The place is gorgeous and I hope it stays safe. The whole thing stinks of these idiots starting a new bush war.

I wonder if they temporarily held the camp staff as "hostages". It is certain that there was some camp staff there as in most camps throughout Africa. Especially as they were preparing for the season as Jumbo noted in his message. Hopefully they have been released safely if that is the case...

I received the same email from Jumbo Moore. Damn shame, it was a beautiful camp on the Lugenda river in a great game area. As stated by someone earlier I have often thought about going back there some day. As in a lot of other regions in Africa, and most of the rest of the world there are...

The velocity figures noted are not possible and they are high even for ft./lbs of energy. Maybe they are in Joules? Ballistic performance Bullet mass/typeVelocityEnergy 230 gr (15 g) Norma Ecostrike2,641 ft/s (805 m/s)3,563 ft⋅lbf (4,831 J) 232 gr (15 g) Norma Oryx2,625 ft/s (800...

You are absolutely correct and sorry for my mistake. It is 9.3x57 that is available from Norma. I shoot my 9x57 with 8mm brass run in the sizer die to neck it up and it works great. For my 9x56 Mannlicher I bought some Hornaber brass years ago with the correct headstamp. Unfortunately they...

I'm wondering if you ever got a chance to slug the bore. Your info so far seems to indicate that you likely have an original 8mm that may have been re-bored to 9mm but would be good to know the true bore diameter.

Sorry about the photo quality but when I ran across this thread I couldn't resist sharing. This is a Nyala shot in the Eastern Cape years ago with a 9x56 Mannlicher Schoenauer and open sights. I also took a Mountain Reedbuck with the rifle on the same hunt. The PH loved the rifle and the idea of...

I pulled mine out of the stock and these are the correct barrel markings for a 9x57. I believe the 8.7mm would be the land to land dimensions or the bore before rifeling.

Here are drawings of both cartridges from CIP which is the international version of SAAMI.

I'm a bit late on this string but was playing with one of my Mausers that happens to be chambered for 9x57 and hit the search button on the cartridge out of curiosity. On Milan's note It is the base of the barrel shank which seats against the C ring in a Mauser action which I also call the...

I do have some. How much do you want?

Thanks for the math lesson and I completely agree. I hunt Whitetails on a wooded lease with some friends and there is not a scope in the group over 8 power. Once we sight them in we hunt with them on 1.5 or 2X or whatever the minimum power setting is. Long shots can be a little over 100 yds and...

Much of this discussion has diverted away from the manufacturers toward magnification and other scope characteristics. In that vein any users here and in general today are favoring large light gathering objective lenses which can be a good thing and OK for Africa, which is the point of this...

Almost every big game animal I have successfully hunted has been with a Leupold scope. I started that way about 50 plus years ago and never found a reason to change. I do however have a beat up pair of Swarovski binos that have been around the world in the last 20 years plus and are still awesome.

First of all I don't think we (the majority of us anyway) should shoot at game much past 400 yards and rarely at that. But we do have rifles that are capable, and I have pulled it off. I think WAB was amazed that anyone would bother dialing a turret at that range which I also agree with. So I...

This is most likely true. Everything now is about a scope as big as the rifle it is mounted on. The market (shooters today in the US) is all about long range and high tech along with those extra 30mils of elevation adjustment that of course you never need while hunting. In Europe they want big...

Most of the time you don't even know the cameraman is there. Unless they are doing a segment where you walk by or speak in an interview they are behind you and your PH. I'm also terrible at the interview part but watching the action replay is great.

Vaughan Vosloo of Untamed is very good and filmed my hunt in the Omay last year. It is fun to share the videos with friends so they can see what Africa hunting is all about including the things that don't go well and create drama.

They are very much alike so you will probably get similar results. The H4350 is supposed to have a slightly slower burn rate so maybe a bit more powder but you don't know until you try. I do use way more Hodgden powders over IMR including H4350. Recently it also depends on what you can get. Lots...

And I wonder if this is a test to see what they get back in order to survive another year or two in Atlanta.

Would also be interesting to hear how the merchandise vendors fared. Imagine trying to sell jewelry or decorator stuff in an empty hall.

Not familiar with Bengal but those are really cool looking bullets. Any idea what the coating is?

Barrel is 24".

I too have killed buffalo with the same 375 recipe. And i'm sure many buffalo have been killed with lighter bullets but there is a huge amount of validity in the recipe that you mention and seem to think antiquated. It is all about sectional density, frontal area, penetration, and other factors...

I'm not sure why you would bother with the 325 grain bullets unless for practice. I think they are useless for dangerous game which is the base purpose of the cartridge.

A Beauty there sir... It looks like we closely agree on a 404 Jeff formula. I did waive the rear sight believing they are a backup proposition. I used Talley quick detach rings and when in the bush carry the Talley ghost ring peep that slides onto the rear scope base if needed. Without a rib or...

I have Kynoch/CIC load info from about 25 years ago that shows the 400 gr bullet at 2,125 fps. With that load the 404 is a pussycat. Having built my own rifle shown below and working up loads for it there is a noticeable difference in recoil between 2,000 and 2,200 fps loads. It is all physics...

Good luck to all.

Came in late on this thread but want to comment on the D&Y situation at SCI. The word "banned" may be a bit strong here. My understanding is that for quite a while there were outfits paying for booth space and then "subletting" to other entities. It appears that this was continuing this year...

Hey guys great to see you here! Can't wait for next September in Nyakasanga with York and his team.

Do you still have the 160gr A-Frames?

I have seen the photos posted. You sir are having a great hunt. I will be there with York in early August and looking forward to it.

I have about 250 pcs. of RWS brass new in 20 round boxes. I would sell most of it. I also have a slightly used chamber reamer. If you are interested in either or both PM me.