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To recap... I went back and re-read my original post on page one of this thread I started. No where did I ever advocate for using only a handgun to stop a charge and I never claimed a handgun was superior in stopping power compared to a rifle caliber. In fact, I mentioned how I would take a...

pilar, I'm just going to put you on block/ignore now so your posts will no longer be on my screen. *CLICK*

He's a multi-millionaire with large estates in Wyoming, Montana and South Africa that puts yours to shame. What are your accomplishments and net-worth compared to his?

Go say it public and post your real name and address and see if you want to be held libel. Tim Sundles is far more accomplished than you are and has done more for the gun and hunting industry than you ever will. Go challenge him publicly, go debate him live and say it to his face instead of...

No, you just are not good with basic english is all. You have a low IQ. The cop couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. The gun and caliber was not the problem. It's a training issue. Standards have been lowered since the U.S. created affirmative action and racial quotas. It got worse under...

Tim Sundles (owner of Buffalobore Ammo) who also owns his own hunting ranch in South Africa talked to Lynn Thompson about all the fake wannabes online who think they're experts and who are jealous of Mark Sullivan... @ 10:22 in the video below...

A lot of people are jealous of Mark Sullivan, he has videos all over the internet documenting his hunts, stopping lots of charges from cape buffalo up close. I've never seen a video of any of you on here stopping a charge from a cape buffalo.

"Humerus" ? You struggle with basic English... Did you mean "humorous" ? Because humerus means: "a long bone in the arm that runs from the shoulder to the elbow. It connects the scapula and the two bones of the lower arm, the radius and ulna, and consists of three sections."...

Mark Sullivan is not an entertainer. But, let's compare him and his accomplishments in Africa to yours. One of his double barrel rifles is worth more than all your rifles combined. :cool:

That has to do with a training issue, not the firearm or caliber itself. When did this event take place with the female cop and dog? Was this back in the 1950's and 1960's when men were allowed to be men or did this take place the last 15 years with DEI woke hiring and lowering the standards...

Mark Sullivan and Kevin Robertson are real guides. But, you need to go out hunting alone where you don't have to rely on guides and PH's to save you and watch your back for you. Learn some independence. Go hunt to collect your own meat to feed yourself and your family. Learn how to skin the...

Those veterans were part of the Korean War and Vietnam War and served on the front lines. Many passed on, some still alive. Now, most in their 70's, 80's and 90's. They didn't flee their country and run away when the going got tough and act like Jane Fonda and you. They stayed in America...

I care about the professional views and lived experiences of famous people who documented their experiences with proof and have the chops like Tim Sundles, Lynn Thompson, Ron Spomer, Phil Shomaker, Mark Sullivan, Jack Huntington, John Linebaugh, Timmy Winslow etc. Not random people online...

You just proved my point. You just posted all the service members above who carry sidearms - officers, vehicle crews, machine gunners, special operation forces, you know those soldiers on the front lines lol hahaha :LOL: Here are the sidearms the US military has carried into battle since...

That's not a true fact, that is your personal opinion. A backup handgun is a life saver and has proven to save the lives of hunters, law enforcement and military. There's a reason why almost every military on this planet has their soldiers carry both a rifle, handgun and knife, the countries...

I get your point. I was a little befuddled when Phil talked about the clients he had who would show up with smaller lighter calibers for brown bears but, he's personally seen those calibers kill brown bears. He did not mention how long it took those bears to die after being shot by those...

Wow! Amazing story! This is why I believe hunters should have on them a revolver for an emergency. But, not just hunters also, hikers and campers. That's also why I'm apprehensive about semi-auto pistols. If you put the muzzle up against something and fire it can jam itself out of battery...

Wow, great story, very informative. Have you ever used a thermal scope to hunt or pursue a wounded animal to make it easier for you to pickup the body heat and location of the animal in thick brush that the naked human eye can't detect due to lack of contrast? Also, what is your recommended...

When you pursue a wounded bear after it's been shot, do you give the bear time and wait before you pursue? I've read and heard from other guides in interviews that they wait at least 30 to 60 minutes before pursuing to give the bear enough time to bleed out.

Have you tried the North Fork Percussion Point PP on Lions yet? Ph Kevin Robertson highly recommends them on cats.

Hunter gets charged by Grizzly and stops it with 10mm...

Can you refute Phil Shoemaker's claims and evidence/proof about all the brown bears killed in Alaska with calibers .223, .22-250, .243 and his own 9mm?... https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=388 American Hunter's official website...

He also posted a photo of a large brown bear killed with a handgun on his post you liked... Photos courtesy of Scott CWO...

Phil Shoemaker also gave an interview to Big Game Hunting Blog...

Phil Shoemaker killed a coastal brown bear with a 9mm 147gr hard cast. Phil used Buffalobore ammo hard cast to do it. The photos and evidence is on Buffalobore's website. Phil also mentioned he talked to Tim Sundles about it... https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=388

This has nothing to do with handguns being effective to you. You need to start being honest. The reason why you are hyper defensive against handguns is because the Canadian government took your handguns away from you and your bitter and jealous of those who get to own handguns and hunt with...

He was killed by a brown bear because wildlife biologists, you know those people they call "scientists" and law enforcement/homicide proved with evidence at the scene it was a fatal bear attack. He was bitten with a lethal bite on his skull that crushed his skull. The forensic evidence clearly...

But, this is very important below... "The Australian water buffalo is generally larger than the Cape buffalo. While the Cape buffalo typically weighs between 425 kg and 870 kg (937 to 1,918 lb) and stands 1.0 to 1.7 meters (3.3 to 5.6 ft) at the shoulder, the Australian water buffalo, often...

Then listen to the experts who have... If you never shot a S&W 500 or 500 Linebaugh at a cape buffalo you do NOT know of it's capabilities. Neither do I but, I never claimed to. I have posted the claims of those who have in videos/links through out this thread. Not according to me but...

Actually, I do respect people's personal lived experiences like Lynn Thompson who has far more experience than you do. Why should I take your opinions over real world experts? Why should your opinions trump the owner of Buffalobore? Or, Master Bear Guide Phil Shoemaker's? Or Lynn Thompson...

Again, you did not address the claims by Lynn Thompson, Tim Sundles, Phil Shoemaker, Timmy Winslow, Morris Melani. Notice you focus on me personally and not the actual links/evidence I posted. I never played in the NBA, I never claimed to but, I can post videos of Michael Jordan and interviews...

Above, Daisy posted a couple links of data collected over the years of handguns that have been effective in killing bears... https://www.ammoland.com/2023/11/handgun-defenses-against-bears-170-documented-incidents-98-effective/...

You don't seem to understand what anecdotal is. He like you have posted no evidence, no official govt studies, no academic studies of data of large sample sizes. You make baseless claims and brag about your personal accomplishments and personal lived experience. If you don't personally...

Lynn Thompson did stop a charge from a buffalo with a handgun, 454 Casull. He also got off 4 shots quickly within 3 to 4 seconds... He also killed a cape buffalo with a spear... It seems here that if one personally doesn't know about something, never personally heard about it before or...

I don't think you ever shot a brown bear with a 50 caliber handgun. Tim Sundles, Morris Melani, Timmy Winslow have said these handguns will save your life. Again, Tim Sundles has shot lots of brown bears with handguns... Phil Shoemaker killed a coastal brown bear with a 9mm @ 5:15 in the...

Your "experience" is purely anecdotal, it's only your own personal experience with your eyes only with what you seen which is just anecdotal not scientific. You been to Alaska, you talked to some people, you seen some hunters. It's not a large sample size. What makes your opinions more...

I would not do it. But, Lynn has more courage than I.

No, it's not a circus act. He approached a buffalo with a spear, he tossed the spear, the buffalo deflected it with it's horn and charged Lynn. Lynn pulled out a 454 Casull revolver and stopped and killed the charging buffalo at point blank range quickly. His actions are proof you can stop...

Your question is disingenuous and insincere. Why do I have to draw my handgun? Why can't I be walking with my handgun in my hand? But, let's say I have my bolt-action rifle in my hand and during a charge I miss, I will drop the rifle and pull the revolver instead of trying to rack the bolt...

A man was killed in Alaska in 1999 by a brown bear. He had his bolt-action rifle with him but no side arm. He was killed. He was able to get off one shot. He put his rifle down to make lunch and was ambushed. That's the problem and disadvantage with rifles and only having a rifle on you and...

The S&W 357 revolver saved your life during both situations and was faster to pull out than a long 30"+ inch 8lb+ pound rifle. You just proved my point for me. But, "I rather have my rifle." Who cares? lol The handgun saved your life and got you back home, that's all that matters. When...

Yes. lol @ reloading a rifle during a charge? Think about that, explain the math behind that. A buffalo or lion charges at you at least 35 mph and with a lion 50 mph at less than 40 yards, now how long do you have to reload a rifle? And who says you need a rifle? Lynn Thompson did it with a...

Lynn Thompson did it above in the video with his revolver, he didn't have a rifle, he had a spear. Again, this is like dealing with certain specific "folks" online who deny violent crime rates and data...

Scroll up at the videos. The one with Lynn Thompson is there, he did it. I'll post it here for the 4th time on this thread. By the way, he did NOT have a rifle on him, he had a spear, not some rifle caliber that has 6,000 ft/lb of energy...

lol @ that. No, it's called verification and mathematics, you know the language of science, something you seem to not understand well. Talking to some of you is like talking to certain blacks who don't understand what is per-capita when it comes to violent crime rates, data/math from the FBI...

You just described all the scenarios that have actually happened to many who had their rifles on them and their rifle malfunctioned or could not manipulate the bolt action fast enough... Anyone who is around DG and only has one weapon on them and no backup is stupid. You're more concerned...

Where are the studies/data of large sample sizes that prove most hunters never have sidearms on them in Alaska? Not some random news story, blogs or anecdotes but, an official government or academic study backed up by math.

They're dumb not to. Alaskan hunters hunt alone around coastal brown bears and polar bears, most of them have sidearms.

No one said anything about having a fantasy of trying to stop a DG animal with a handgun... The question is, what if your primary rifle fails, then what? Going out there with no backup? Again, in Alaska, hunters have saved their lives with a sidearm against a coastal brown bear or polar bear...

You raise some good points but, don't limit yourself to a 44 mag. Plenty of handgun calibers that are FAR more powerful like 454 Casull, 480 Ruger, 475 Linebaugh, 500 JRH/500 S&W, 500 Wyoming Express, 500 Linebaugh. You can also get revolvers chambered in 45/70 like the Magnum Research BFR...