Politics

[deewayne2003]

What one guy with dementia said does not verify your statement--not even close.

I've listened carefully (due to having a few medical conditions that make me vulnerable).

What has been said about the vaccine is that it gives you very good (not perfect) protection at first and that protection declines as the months go by--and you should have an annual updated booster.

When combined with wearing an effective mask (N95) in crowded public places this gives you your best chance of avoiding Covid.

I've done it and have not had Covid at all.

I also haven't spread it to others--which to me is an important thing.

It's also an important thing to those others who might have died if I spread it.

LOLOLOL..... Well I offer my anecdotal experience.

I was vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine because I had a bad lung infection and was advised to get it by my doctor; 67 days after my second shot I was infected with covid by another person who had also been vaccinated.

Oh and it wasn't one guy with dementia, you also had the head of the CDC saying the same thing on national news as I posted previously.

Along with many others, Bill Gates hopped on the band wagon of profit......

Only to sell his stock in pharma and then come out and say they were not effective.

 

[Frostbite]

Sorry I was watching football as well, unbelievable comeback by the Broncos.

I only see one of those actually predicting violence, others seemed to be taking natural precautions.

There were free Palestine signs amongst the rallys, and definitely some antifa members.

Not all but their definitely were paid protesters there. I have posted posters from the previous no kings rally that literally have said who is sponsoring rally.

I don't see anything embrassing there, but if you want to see something embrassing you can go watch Nancy Pelosi break a plastic crown.

Yeah, the Vikings played lazy and lost. The millionaires mostly seem to be waiting for somebody else to do the work. Also.........they let that elderly quarterback get beat up and he's declining.

As for the big parade..........

Antifa? That means "against Fascists."

Like Woody Guthrie's famous guitar.......I'm against Fascists--it's long standing American tradition.

Nothing wrong with a Free Palestine sign. We'd do the same thing if somebody took over the U.S. We'd be out there draped in camo and vegetation doing sniper work.

I suppose there could have been some paid protesters among the seven or so million--but I've never seen proof--just gossip.

So all those who insulted the good people and their peaceful protest against Trump's clear abuses of the presidency........well, they're eating crow now.

As they should.

 

[Frostbite]

Oh really, I’m whining? The beautiful thing about this forum is that there is an ignore button.

Here is your profile. No pictures listed.

Have a good day!!

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Am I really important enough to become an obsession for you?

It only raises YOUR blood pressure and doesn't hurt me a bit.

And you're wrong.

You clearly missed the picture of my nice whitetail buck.

 

[mdwest]

Give us a verified quote that backs up your statement--“If you get the shot, you won’t get sick, covid will end with you!”

You can't--because nobody said that.

Brent and I dont often fully agree on much (although we are reasonably well politically aligned)...

but you are clearly living with your head buried deep in the sand...

Person	Statement / paraphrase	Date / context	Source & notes

Joe Biden

“You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations”

July 21, 2021, CNN Town Hall

In a transcript of his remarks: “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.” The White House+2FactCheck.org+2 FactCheck.org notes this is an overreach, as vaccines are not perfect at preventing infection. FactCheck.org

Thats straight from the sitting President of the United States in 2021.

There are dozens of other examples from prominent politicians, prominent physicians, prominent virologists, and from various clowns in the main stream media..

3 minutes with google and/or chatgpt confirms that A LOT of people said it.. the majority of whom are clearly on the left side of politics..

 

[Frostbite]

Oh and it wasn't one guy with dementia, you also had the head of the CDC saying the same thing on national news as I posted previously.

Ok, if you can post the quote that will be one other guy besides the potato brained Biden.

So let's have it.

I doubt that it's the same as your statement, but I'm willing to consider it.

 

[Frostbite]

Brent and I dont often fully agree on much (although we are reasonably well politically aligned)...

but you are clearly living with your head buried deep in the sand...

Person	Statement / paraphrase	Date / context	Source & notes

Joe Biden

“You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations”

July 21, 2021, CNN Town Hall

In a transcript of his remarks: “You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.” The White House+2FactCheck.org+2 FactCheck.org notes this is an overreach, as vaccines are not perfect at preventing infection. FactCheck.org

Thats straight from the sitting President of the United States in 2021.

There are dozens of other examples from prominent politicians, prominent physicians, prominent virologists, and from various clowns in the main stream media..

3 minutes with google and/or chatgpt confirms that A LOT of people said it.. the majority of whom are clearly on the left side of politics..

And nobody said “If you get the shot, you won’t get sick, covid will end with you!”

Even Mr. Potato Brain Biden never said that.

 

[Frostbite]

not true,

rachael madow stated exactly that and was of course not the only one. i am sure you can find that on you tube if you make any effort in that direction.

Ok, let's have the quote.

So far nobody's having any luck at providing one.

 

[mdwest]

Too early to make predictions, but we must not forget that Trump's approval rating was close to 50% when he got those 77 million votes.

Now his approval rating is close to 40% and trending down.

In my estimation he has two choices in the next 12 months:

He can change his ways to project a softer and more Reaganesque image.

Or:

He can declare that the midterm elections are being rigged against Republicans by the Democrats (and their terrorist sympathizers) and put all elections on hold while an investigation ensues.

An investigation that might go on for a long time.

And how many protesters would be in the street if that happens?

These are indeed fascinating times in American history.

You clearly have little understanding of politics or the current political landscape, and watch far too much TV...

Almost universally all POTUS start their tour with high approval ratings, and equally almost universally, they ALL see their approval ratings drop over time.. Thats the nature of inspiring lots of people to vote for you, and then facing the cold hard fact that its impossible to please all people all of the time on any single issue..

For example, probably the second most popular D president in modern times, Obama, hit a 40% approval mark in Oct 2014.. Far and away the most popular D president in modern times, Clinton hit a 37% approval rating in June 1993...

So.. what exactly is it that Trump is unpopular about? and where does he remain popular? And how much impact do any of those things have on future elections? Well... since he isnt running for office again, his personal popularity has little to no impact on him at all... And, oh, by the way, the things that typically matter in presidential elections like the economy is still polling at about 55% according to Real Clear Polling...

Where his popularity had largely declined, which impacts the aggregate 40% value being reported is on healthcare issues..

Well.. no shit... healthcare is the #1 reason the D party has pushed for the govt shutdown.. its the only hill they have left to stand on that anyone gives a damn about nationally..

Where you should be looking is at CONGRESSIONAL approval ratings.. since the house and the senate will both be seeing elections next year..

Currently Republican members of congress have a 69% approval rating per the PEW Research Center (generally seen as one of the least biased research /think tanks).. While Democrat members of congress have a 40% approval rating (per PEW).. that is a HUGE gap... even NPR (clearly left biased) rates Democrat congressional approval at 48%.. which is still a HUGE gap between R and D approval ratings..

As a result, Trump has no motivation to do anything that you describe.. his antics MAY harm his own approval.. but who gives a shit? Its clearly not harming the R's in the house or the senate.. its not harming any of the would be 2028 contenders to replace him.. take a look at Rubio, DeSantis, and Vance's individual approval ratings.. and Trump isnt running for re-election..

 

[mdwest]

And nobody said “If you get the shot, you won’t get sick, covid will end with you!”

Even Mr. Potato Brain Biden never said that.

youre desperately grasping for straws..

your argument has been debunked and youre either too stupid or too stubborn to acknowledge it... either one presents a pretty bad image of yourself... and doesnt really impress anyone...

It certainly makes it a whole lot easier to understand how MN ended up with Tim Waltz as governor and Ilhan Omar in DC..

 

[Brent in Az]

So why didn't the left go up in arms like they are doing now? Because most likely it was just a cover up and lies.

BTW, you joined 17 Oct 2025, you have 37 total posts and 23 in the politics threat. You also have no pictures of any hunts. Are you here to share our common interest, which is hunting, or are you here to instigate and be negative since you know the majority on this forum are from the right.

"Alex"....."I'll take Troll stirring the shit pot for $1000 please"

 

[Frostbite]

your argument has been debunked

Factually wrong.

What this proves is that when you post here you should write carefully and if you make a quote--DON'T PARAPHRASE but instead be honest.

And the fact still remains that nobody said “If you get the shot, you won’t get sick, covid will end with you!”

Even Mr. Potato Brain Biden never said that.

 

[Frostbite]

"Alex"....."I'll take Troll stirring the shit pot for $1000 please"

Getting desperate now.

And boring.

 

[mdwest]

once again too stupid, or too stubborn... take your pick...

neither is a good look for you..

but.. if you choose to wear it... at least you wear it well lol..

 

[Brent in Az]

Getting desperate now.

And boring.

Crawl back to Liberal loony land, and the alternate reality that you live in

 

[Tundra Tiger]

Am I really important enough to become an obsession for you?

It only raises YOUR blood pressure and doesn't hurt me a bit.

And you're wrong.

You clearly missed the picture of my nice whitetail buck.

Oscar and Dave are 2 of the most open minded, level headed folks on this site. Your dismissals of them and your snarky comments towards them speak volumes about you.

 

[LivingTheDream]

Antifa? That means "against Fascists."

You are being intentionally obtuse. You can easily look up Antifa chapters and see the havoc they have been causing in Portland.

Nothing wrong with a Free Palestine sign. We'd do the same thing if somebody took over the U.S.

Again being intentionally obtuse, those signs today are supporting Hamas and the terror attack that occurred on Oct 7th. Last I checked Hamas was elected by a free Palestine.

So all those who insulted the good people and their peaceful protest against Trump's clear abuses of the presidency........well, they're eating crow now.

Your example of Gov Youngkin sending the national guard to me is just good leadership, you have large rallies on a political issue, good to be prepared and not need it than the other way around. That isnt calling for violence but rather an acknowledgement that there could be.

As far as billionaires paying...

Walmart heiress Christy Walton promotes "No Kings" anti-Trump protest in ad

Walmart heiress ad placed in New York Times urges people to participate in nationwide "No Kings" anti-Trump protest.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Frostbite]

As a result, Trump has no motivation to do anything that you describe.. his antics MAY harm his own approval.. but who gives a shit? Its clearly not harming the R's in the house or the senate.. its not harming any of the would be 2028 contenders to replace him.. take a look at Rubio, DeSantis, and Vance's individual approval ratings.. and Trump isnt running for re-election..

I think you're missing a key problem Trump has--if he loses the midterms he will no longer have a majority in the House or Senate or both.

He'll lose power completely and become the most impotent of lame ducks for two years.

He could still sign meaningless Executive Orders but they all go in the trash anyway.

And you also ask..........WHY is Trump so unpopular?

Let's research it:

• Pardons for January 6 rioters: His decision to pardon those convicted of crimes related to the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol is one of his least popular actions, opposed by a majority of Americans.
• Mass deportations: While a portion of the public backs deporting undocumented immigrants accused of violent crimes, many disapprove of mass deportation efforts that would include those who have lived in the country for many years or were brought to the U.S. as children.
• Separation of families at the border: The "zero tolerance" policy of separating migrant children from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border drew widespread condemnation from the public, religious groups, and international leaders.
• Voters have expressed disapproval of Trump's use of executive power to interfere with independent institutions and processes.
• Pressure on the media and corporations: Polls have shown significant public disapproval of Trump pressuring media outlets that cover him unfavorably and compelling private businesses to make specific business decisions.
• Hiring and pardons related to Elon Musk: Trump's second-term actions involving Elon Musk, including appointing him to an advisory role and giving his companies special privileges, are broadly unpopular. A majority of Americans are concerned about Musk's access to sensitive personal data and oppose his closure of federal agencies.
• Federal grant freeze: An early 2025 executive order freezing most federal grant funding, including for healthcare and small businesses, was widely criticized and temporarily blocked by a federal judge.
• Repeal of the Affordable Care Act: Throughout his presidency, polling consistently showed that efforts to repeal the ACA were unpopular, especially due to concerns over protections for those with pre-existing conditions.
• Rollbacks of ACA protections: In early 2025, executive actions that would weaken patient protections, like allowing insurers to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions and removing the cap on insulin co-payments for Medicare recipients, were met with negative public reactions.
• Trade tariffs: Trump's implementation of tariffs on imports from countries like Canada, Mexico, and China has consistently received negative marks from the public.
• Cuts to social safety nets: Actions aimed at cutting back social safety net programs, such as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), have had a negative impact on thousands of families and were halted by court rulings.
• Environmental rollbacks: Decisions to withdraw from the Paris Climate Agreement and roll back environmental protections have been met with public opposition.

There's actually more........but my personal feeling is this:

I think that the very worst mistake he's making now is having masked and heavily armed ICE agents do mass arrests.

While most of us agree with a closed border and deportations, the violent arrests (sometimes children in the middle of the night) are too remindful of storm troopers and totalitarian regimes of the past.

Anyhow.......he has many huge problems and America will never give him significant support again.

 

[Frostbite]

once again too stupid, or too stubborn... take your pick...

neither is a good look for you..

but.. if you choose to wear it... at least you wear it well lol..

Thanks for your opinion.

You'd do better though, if you came up with reasoned responses instead of name calling.

 

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[deewayne2003]

Ok, if you can post the quote that will be one other guy besides the potato brained Biden.

So let's have it.

I doubt that it's the same as your statement, but I'm willing to consider it.

"Ok, if you can post the quote that will be one other guy besides the potato brained Biden.

So let's have it"

Are you slow or just being purposefully obtuse?.... Because I already did let you have it, in video form with time stamp from the head of the CDC who said it on national news.

CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky @0:33 in this video

President Biden @0:18

Here it is again....

Or do we need someone to translate it into Somali for you?