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[Tanks]

Demonstrates an example of how the propaganda spread by Main Stream Media (MSM) brainwashes the world just as it does half the US population. NPR, PBS, CNN, ABC, CBS, BBC, NBC, MSNBC, etc.

What news source do you trust, “MAGA Fairy Tales News”? Even WSJ says it was a retreat by Trump and a win by China

Opinion | The Great Trump Tariff Rollback — The Wall Street Journal

The President started a trade war with Adam Smith. He lost.

apple.news

 

[fourfive8]

What news source do you trust, “MAGA Fairy Tales News”? Even WSJ says it was a retreat by Trump and a win by China

Opinion | The Great Trump Tariff Rollback — The Wall Street Journal

The President started a trade war with Adam Smith. He lost.

apple.news

I trust my brain. It is quite easy to tell when people rely on biased, left, Democrat aligned news sources. The politicians, the politics, the bureaucracy, the culture, the voters in California are proof.

 

[Brent in Az]

What news source do you trust, “MAGA Fairy Tales News”? Even WSJ says it was a retreat by Trump and a win by China

Opinion | The Great Trump Tariff Rollback — The Wall Street Journal

The President started a trade war with Adam Smith. He lost.

apple.news

MAGA fairy tale news?.....LOL

Apple news is nothing more then the typical lunatic leftwing spew. Marxist endorsed media.

 

[Tanks]

MAGA fairy tale news?.....LOL

Apple news is nothing more then the typical lunatic leftwing spew. Marxist endorsed media.

Did you read it? It is a piece by WSJ, not Apple.

 

[RLD]

MAGA fairy tale news?.....LOL

Apple news is nothing more then the typical lunatic leftwing spew. Marxist endorsed media.

You do know that is a link to the WSJ right? You really think the WSJ is marxist? Or do you just have a group of derogatory words you like to type randomly when something you don't like gets posted?

 

[LivingTheDream]

The only reason I question these articles is that there is well documented protests in China, and it was having an impact on their economy. The US had not seen the impact yet, though stories were starting to pop up.

Also Chinese messaging which was over top leads me to believe they were coming to the table and wanted to save face.

This is just my opinion based on the optics, and no real hard data.

 

[Tanks]

I apparently had an interesting tariff experience? I am a periodic customer of New Forest clothing in the UK. They have one of the finest selections of European style hunting clothing to be found anywhere (excellent selection of the generally unobtainable in the US). I was making a $228 purchase. At checkout, a Duties and Fees charge of $461.38 was added which brought the total $689.38! Needless to say, I passed on the opportunity to contribute to this insanity.

I can't do the math that creates a nearly $500.00 charge, so we'll see what they say to my query.

It could be that the items were manufactured in China and then the Chinese tariffs would apply.

 

[spike.t]

Also removing sanctions on Syria...and going to meet the Syrian leader......

Trump attends Qatari state dinner after announcing deals on second day of Middle East tour

Earlier, the US president met the Syrian leader and praised him as "tough" and "attractive".

www.bbc.com

 

[Altitude sickness]

I like that Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) mother is a Bedouin tribeswoman from the Ajman tribe. I’ve always been fascinated by that culture.

 

[VertigoBE]

It could be that the items were manufactured in China and then the Chinese tariffs would apply.

Like almost all clothing, even the most prestigious names.

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

Also removing sanctions on Syria...and going to meet the Syrian leader......

Trump attends Qatari state dinner after announcing deals on second day of Middle East tour

Earlier, the US president met the Syrian leader and praised him as "tough" and "attractive".

www.bbc.com

Curious what the rationale (or excuse) for removing sanctions on Syria is.. Would say reasoning but I’d be surprised if there was reason involved.. Meeting with a terrorist and give him legitimacy..

 

[Field28]

I like to pop in here once a week to see if anything has changed... nope nothings changed... back to the hunting threads!

 

[mdwest]

Curious what the rationale (or excuse) for removing sanctions on Syria is.. Would say reasoning but I’d be surprised if there was reason involved.. Meeting with a terrorist and give him legitimacy..

Lots of terrorists that the US (and the rest of the world) have later embraced...

Nelson Mandela would be a good example.. he remained on the US Terror Watch List until 2008.. 14 years after he was elected President in South Africa..

 

[Brent in Az]

You do know that is a link to the WSJ right? You really think the WSJ is marxist? Or do you just have a group of derogatory words you like to type randomly when something you don't like gets posted?

You think the WSJ is some type of Media gospel? They are manipulative just like everyone else, and have their own agenda.
Obviously, that horrible derogatory word has triggered you....get over it!

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

With a 31% drop in Canadians crossing the boarder in automobiles and a 13.5% drop in air travel, states that do any amount of business through tourism must be down on revenue. Those figures are year over year comparisons and have been down similarly each of the last four months.

Has anyone in the u.s. noticed a marked decrease in tourists ? Tourism is big business here in the summer months but we won’t start to notice until the ferry starts for the season if the decrease is reciprocal.

 

[Altitude sickness]

I’m driving through Port Huron tomorrow. I’ll take a quick look at the box stores and gas stations for Canadian plates. That’s where they shop.

 

[spike.t]

Lots of terrorists that the US (and the rest of the world) have later embraced...

Nelson Mandela would be a good example.. he remained on the US Terror Watch List until 2008.. 14 years after he was elected President in South Africa..

Well wasn't exactly an angel....and his international acquaintances......some were pretty unsavoury to put it mildly

 

[deewayne2003]

Interested to see how this ends up affecting prescription prices in the USA

 

[Hank2211]

What seems to be accurate about the report is that the exorbitant tariffs on China were about to cause broad damage to US businesses - particularly smaller enterprises absolutely dependent on a Chinese supply chain and create a huge Covid-like store shelf calamity for the VOTING public. As in any cost scenario, that inconvenience would be most felt by working class Americans. Many of you seem to feel like you have far more expertise on the Chinese economy than me, but this feels more like some sort of self-inflicted mutual economic and political suicide pact to achieve the status quo and talks. I wonder if a nice invitation on Whitehouse letterhead might have been any less effective.

Second, I think anyone can now see that the revenue generating aspect of the tariff plan was never real. I am not sure whether Trump thought it was, but if he did, that is really worrisome. I think I would have been more comfortable having been lied to about it. My sense is that the only person with a real grip on what is actually happening is Scott Bessent. I pray Trump doesn't get frustrated with what are likely uncomfortable periodic chats with him.

Finally, it seems ever more apparent that there is zero intent to cut spending and draw down the national debt. The effect on debt of the Big Beautiful Bill seems to pretty much mirror Biden's two major bills in that respect. Even the folks over at CFP, RedState, and Breitbart seem to be getting concerned. Moreover, support for the agenda is getting wobbly on the Hill.

This was published in the Wall Street Journal today. Ron Johnson is not exactly a leftist democrat.

https://archive.is/sKPCo

What I believe would benefit people like me is some sense of coherence emerging with all the late night blather from the president. I do not understand his intent, I do not understand his strategy, and certainly do not have blind faith in him.

Red Leg, with all due respect, you must have this wrong. I was told, very clearly, earlier in this thread that tariffs on China would not result in empty shelves, but that the vendor would pick up the tariff and keep sending the product.

I clearly learned from that post. Perhaps you missed it, which would explain your lack of economic knowledge.

 

[Mark A Ouellette]

Red Leg, with all due respect, you must have this wrong. I was told, very clearly, earlier in this thread that tariffs on China would not result in empty shelves, but that the vendor would pick up the tariff and keep sending the product.

I clearly learned from that post. Perhaps you missed it, which would explain your lack of economic knowledge.

Gents, I am not an international economics expert but... I know Trump's modus operandi. Throw a handful of crap against the wall and see what sticks. Trump recently placed over 100% tariffs on China. When China started to negotiate he lowered those tariffs to 10% + an additional 20% on some goods. This is temporary, much like a cease fire of a war. It gives time for negotiations.

Of course, the press is saying Trump blinked. No, I think he got what he wanted, for now.

Think about it like this, when facing a gang of adversaries, drop the biggest bad guy to get your point across to the rest of them. That's Trump in negotiating deals.