404 Jeffrey at 1019 yards!!

[Axle2010]

I'm sure some of yall follow Mark and Sam After work on YouTube but if you don't is a man and wife in Australia I think that are all about llooonnnggg range shooting I mean 2 and 3k yards. I just saw a video where he uses his gunsmith's custom 404J with a dg scope to first sit 600 them 1019 yards. Yes I know it's reficulous range but it's impressive that such a cartridge is capable of making relatively consistent shots at that range. Just thought yall might be interested as well.

 

[PerH]

There was. 300 grain for it also, bronz point tipped . People used it wrongly there for it was removed so long ago.

I got some 300 PBP copper ones made in Norway with the rifle . Firm now closed sadly .
Tonheim bullets it was.

I also used 310 Mimek in it . And I shot on 450 meters the longest with Mimek . Used same load as the 300 Pbp

Largest thump in steel plate from it was the old 400 grain Barnes X they were “massive “ long .

 

[Ontario Hunter]

There was. 300 grain for it also, bronz point tipped . People used it wrongly there for it was removed so long ago.

I got some 300 PBP copper ones made in Norway with the rifle . Firm now closed sadly .
Tonheim bullets it was.

I also used 310 Mimek in it . And I shot on 450 meters the longest with Mimek . Used same load as the 300 Pbp

Largest thump in steel plate from it was the old 400 grain Barnes X they were “massive “ long .

Hammer Bullets in Missoula, MT makes 307gr and 350gr for 404. I bought a sample of 307gr but couldn't work up a load that would group before running out of primers. Those are quite explosive design so would be careful shooting anything you want to eat.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

There was. 300 grain for it also, bronz point tipped . People used it wrongly there for it was removed so long ago.

I got some 300 PBP copper ones made in Norway with the rifle . Firm now closed sadly .
Tonheim bullets it was.

I also used 310 Mimek in it . And I shot on 450 meters the longest with Mimek . Used same load as the 300 Pbp

Largest thump in steel plate from it was the old 400 grain Barnes X they were “massive “ long .

How were you loading the 310gr bullets? I might want to try the recipe with 307gr.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

I'm sure some of yall follow Mark and Sam After work on YouTube but if you don't is a man and wife in Australia I think that are all about llooonnnggg range shooting I mean 2 and 3k yards. I just saw a video where he uses his gunsmith's custom 404J with a dg scope to first sit 600 them 1019 yards. Yes I know it's reficulous range but it's impressive that such a cartridge is capable of making relatively consistent shots at that range. Just thought yall might be interested as well.

Can you post a link?

Are these folks related to the people who shot an elk at 680 with a 243?

 

[PerH]

How were you loading the 310gr bullets? I might want to try the recipe with 307gr.

I dont have the data here as they went with rifle when i sold it couple of years back, and i dont remember them either now

But i used same data as for 300 grains .

But it was a very adaptive rifle 300,310,340,400

I never got to try 450 Woodleighs

 

[Axle2010]

Idk how to post a link, sorry. I doubt they're related I don't thinknMark and Sam hunt at all

Can you post a link?

Are these folks related to the people who shot an elk at 680 with a 243

 

[akrifleman]

I'm sure some of yall follow Mark and Sam After work on YouTube but if you don't is a man and wife in Australia I think that are all about llooonnnggg range shooting I mean 2 and 3k yards. I just saw a video where he uses his gunsmith's custom 404J with a dg scope to first sit 600 them 1019 yards. Yes I know it's reficulous range but it's impressive that such a cartridge is capable of making relatively consistent shots at that range. Just thought yall might be interested as well.

Some fella did a mile shot with a 45-70 150 years ago.

Billy Dixon's One Mile Shot - RifleShooter

With its heavy barrels, set triggers and hefty powder charges, the 1874 Sharps was the ideal rifle for long-range shooting.

www.rifleshootermag.com

Many shooters have since duplicated the feat. It really isn't very hard, particularly with laser range finders. Many of the medium bores+ are surprisingly accurate. The real trick is reading the wind in a real hunting situation, which is why a 700 yd chip shot at the range can be extremely tricky IRL.

 

[Tintin]

Mark and Sam do some cool stuff.

Here is the condensed 404 episode for those with short attention spans

and the full bottle here

They shoot a 45-70 to 1926y

 

[Ontario Hunter]

I dont have the data here as they went with rifle when i sold it couple of years back, and i dont remember them either now

But i used same data as for 300 grains .

But it was a very adaptive rifle 300,310,340,400

I never got to try 450 Woodleighs

I think the Barnes bullet in your photo must be 450gr? Here's Barnes 400gr TSX in 404. Considerably shorter.

 

[Axle2010]

I like the looks of that cartridge... Yall think 375H&H, 416Rigby, 404J, 458 Lott, and 460 Weatherby would be to much overlap? The Lott and Jeffrey would be optional I think

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Idk how to post a link, sorry. I doubt they're related I don't thinknMark and Sam hunt at all

When you are watching a Youtube video, right click with your mouse on the video and the click on "Copy Video URL", then click on a AH page and paste (Ctrl-V). Hit the space bar or enter and the link should work.

 

[Ontario Hunter]

I like the looks of that cartridge... Yall think 375H&H, 416Rigby, 404J, 458 Lott, and 460 Weatherby would be to much overlap? The Lott and Jeffrey would be optional I think

I have all bases covered with 30-06 (top) and 404 Jeffery. Both rifles were originally made to kill people circa WWII.

 

[Axle2010]

I have all bases covered with 30-06 (top) and 404 Jeffery. Both rifles were originally made to kill people circa WWII.
View attachment 576125
View attachment 576124

The Jeffrey was originally a military cartridge? That's a helluva bullet for a human

 

[Ontario Hunter]

The Jeffrey was originally a military cartridge? That's a helluva bullet for a human

No. Both RIFLES were designed to be mankillers. I built the 404 Jeffery on a Czech BRNO vz.24 action that was originally 8mm. Before I bought it the gun had been rebarreled to 30-06. The 30-06 in top image is 1903A3 Springfield also rebarreled but retained the caliber.

 

[PerH]

No barnes In picture i had From left 310 Mimek In .404 , then .358 Norma , and .458 Nitro Express

 

[Axle2010]

No. Both RIFLES were designed to be mankillers. I built the 404 Jeffery on a Czech BRNO vz.24 action that was originally 8mm. Before I bought it the gun had been rebarreled to 30-06. The 30-06 in top image is 1903A3 Springfield also rebarreled but retained the caliber.

Oh OK my bad I misunderstood

 

[Aaron N]

My calculator shows Norma factory 450gr dropping 797 inches at 1000 yards. That’s some hold over!

 

[Ontario Hunter]

My calculator shows Norma factory 450gr dropping 797 inches at 1000 yards. That’s some hold over!

Apparently, he used 300gr bullets. Hard to believe the crosshairs of a low power "dangerous game scope" wouldn't cover up a bedsheet at a thousand yards.

 

[Axle2010]

Apparently, he used 300gr bullets. Hard to believe the crosshairs of a low power "dangerous game scope" wouldn't cover up a bedsheet at a thousand yards.

He made the comment that it was a little hard to see cause he was using the very bottom of the crosshair. That 2x2' target is mighty small at no more than 6 power I bet