Are those the original stocks?
Oh, I have no idea. I would assume so. Just a pic I came across when I was planning my 404 build, and one I passed on to my builder as a general idea for stock design.Are those the original stocks?
@Tex .416 - WOW ! ….I assume you are a Great Shot, confident, and completely Unpretentious…..
I kind of agree. However. I have two rifles with quick detachable scopes and iron sights. One is a double. Both have cheekpieces. In both cases there is a very poor cheek- weld when using the scopes, the scope mounts are the lowest possible. Both rifles were fitted with qd scopes at time of manufacture - they are not aftermarket additions. With the iron sights they are perfect.No I really don’t think they are necessary particularly on rifles without scopes . About half my rifles have them , the others don’t . Strangely Rigby charge more on their “Vintage” Models to not have a cheek piece .
I think there is a lot of compromise when making stocks which use QD mounts . I have 2x425 WR rifles . The older one is set up for open sights . No cheek piece and very accurate - at least at my hunting ranges . The other has factory QD scope. It has a cheek piece . A very different stock - much thicker / heavier . I have set it up for scope on hunting . Shoots well with scope on/off . I have a Purdey double . It is a 303 from 1897. A scope was mounted by Purdey in late 1920s . It has what looks like a shotgun stock . No cheek piece , no pistol grip . Low mounted scope . Shoots well with scope on or off - again my deer hunting range is max 150 yards . My Rigby 500NE which is still a year from completion has no cheek piece and I’m fine with that . Other doubles from H&H , WR all came with cheek pieces - all with express sights but do not need the cheek piece . An old 404J - no cheek piece. It really is a mixed bag . I just don’t see the need for a cheek piece with open sights .I kind of agree. However. I have two rifles with quick detachable scopes and iron sights. One is a double. Both have cheekpieces. In both cases there is a very poor cheek- weld when using the scopes, the scope mounts are the lowest possible. Both rifles were fitted with qd scopes at time of manufacture - they are not aftermarket additions. With the iron sights they are perfect.
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I am the same way shoot right hand rifles left handed. I have had two custom stocks made for a left shooter right hand action.I am left handed but have only ever owned right handed action rifles. So I have never been able to take advantage of a cheek piece.
I have flirted with buying a custom stock-they do make them for those confused such as myself
+1Simple answer, no.
@TnKen - as a Lefty I grew up having to adapt and shoot RH bolt actions - But, in the 1990s I enjoyed when LH actions on Bolt rifles became more common and that’s what I’ve bought ever since. While any Lefty can learn to use a RH Bolt action - and many have to based on necessity — It will always be slower for them then using a LH action. I’ve also never had a problem later selling my used LH rifles.I am the same way shoot right hand rifles left handed. I have had two custom stocks made for a left shooter right hand action.
Silver dollar! That was an expensive target! I taped up a loonie (brass Canadian $1 coin) on a target for my 11 year-old grandson to shoot with my scoped .22. He hit it at 50 feet first shot (not surprising as he can repeatedly hit the brass end of empty 12 gauge casing). Unfortunately, the coin went flying to parts unknown. We looked for it over half an hour till it was almost dark. I wanted to frame it with him posing. On the way home I said, "Well Parker, you shot your first buck today. Too bad it got away. Must have been hit in the guts." Next day around noon his mom calls. "What the hell did you do with Parker yesterday? The principal just phoned and says he's telling kids he shot a deer [not in season and Parker is too young to have a license]" Har, har! I explained. Apparently the faculty got a good laugh. It's a Catholic school and most of the teachers are from Italian families big on hunting/fishing. Glad they didn't call the cops. The few I have met in this town don't have much sense of humor.Hank,
very insightful on your observations. I never really thought about it, but that is surprisingly perceptive and accurate.
I grew up shooting competitively and had some luck through the years. I no longer compete, but do still teach some as an avocation.
Here is a young lady I taught that wanted to learn to shoot so she could go deer hunting with her dad. This was taped to the target at 200 yards as her final exam. She had two shots to pass. This was on an outdoor range and there was a bit of wind too.
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The other difference is the grip. One of my stocks is a thumb hole, so the cut out is different. The “custom” designation is because no company that I’m aware of keeps the configuration in inventory.@TnKen - as a Lefty I grew up having to adapt and shoot RH bolt actions - But, in the 1990s I enjoyed when LH actions on Bolt rifles became more common and that’s what I’ve bought ever since. While any Lefty can learn to use a RH Bolt action - and many have to based on necessity — It will always be slower for them then using a LH action. I’ve also never had a problem later selling my used LH rifles.
What exactly is a Custom LH stock for a RH action? Other then cheek piece…all else is the same?