Word of caution (first hand) about hunting Mexico now

There is nothing in Mexico worth going across the line for and hasn’t been for twenty years.

As far as I’m concerned Mexico is a hostile to US interests nation and it should be treated as such. As for its people coming here we’re full. Stay in your country of origin.
 
My personal opinion is the US government hates that we vacation in Mexico cheaper than the US. The also hate that you can hunt Africa or fish Central America cheaper than you can in America. They're basically trying to keep that retirement income home. The government doing a good job of doing that.
 
I fish and hunt in Mexico. Pick and choose your areas wisely. I’ll likely go back to Sonora to hunt deer and PV to fish…
 
I live 60 miles north of Mexico. I hunt border lands just this side of Mexico. In all the Arizona hunting units on the border, it is legal and recommended to carry a personal protection firearm while bow hunting. These border units are the only areas of the state where it is legal to be in possession of a firearm while bow hunting. We regularly encounter "mules" carrying bales of drugs on their shoulders. These are usually Central American teenagers trying to come to US for work who are forced by cartel coyotes to carry drugs across the border, so cartel members have less risk of arrest. The "mules" are USUALLY unarmed (but you never really know) and terrified to see us, because they do not know who we are or why we are there armed, and if they do not deliver the drugs to the specified place, they and/or their families will be hunted down and killed. Under all previous administrations in the last 20 years, Dem or Rep, Border Patrol was very active in these areas (helicopters, off-road vehicles. etc.) interdicting illegals and repatriating them to their countries of origin (many from Central America) and intercepting drugs and incarcerating the offenders (often poor migrant workers forced to be "mules".) I have watched as one bus fills up with illegals just brought in by 4WD paddy wagons, and the next bus is waiting to pull into its place as the first bus pulls away, day after day, month after month, year after year. These were security buses with steel in the windows dropping people off at detention centers, not Greyhounds taking them to sanctuary cities. The only exception was the Biden administration who did not even staff the main highway checkpoints at all, (no one there, no "guides" needed here), much less was Border Patrol enabled to beat the brush to enforce the law as they had been under previous administrations. Last year I did not see one Border Patrol uniformed officer, vehicle, helicopter, or manned checkpoint in the area. Most Arizonans have stopped even hunting the US side near the border, or even driving or hiking there, because it is getting so dangerous. I would say in the areas we hunt, there is about a 80-90 percent reduction in the number of hunters compared to 10 or 15 years ago. Many of those are out of state hunters hunting with local outfitters. I am sure the out of state clients have no idea how dangerous the area is. Outfitters aren't making money by telling them that. I am considering stopping myself. There are some old families there, but according to news reports, other reports, and court records, many living in that area now are paid by the cartels to turn a blind eye to what happens on their own property and/or they are actually actively assisting the cartels. They have been sending them to prison, but with the new terrorist designation for cartels, those folks in the US are going to have their land seized by the government if they help the cartels. Across the border in Mexico it is several orders of magnitude worse, EXPONENTIALLY MORE DANGEROUS. From what my friends and clients tell me, who are from Mexico and travel from one end to the other, north and south, east and west, to see their families there, or used to, it is dangerous all over, just more so along the border. Anyone who tells you different is just not telling the truth, PERIOD. It is common knowledge here, not even debatable.

I used to visit Mexico often, just to shop or take family or friends who may be visiting from out of state on a day trip. Several churches in the US and Mexico formed a coalition across all denominational lines to provide funds and volunteers from the US and materials and vetting from Mexico and go down once per year and built single family homes for the impoverished families living in makeshift hovels on their own land. They were not big or fancy, just a 20'x20' house with 2 rooms, 2 windows and 2 doors, but they had a concrete floor, stucco walls, and an asphalt roof. We in the US would call it a basic tool shed, but for some of them it was the only real building they had ever lived in. Many were living with dirt floors and no roof before. To see the tears of gratitude when they were handed the keys to their own home, a safe home, and pray a prayer of thanksgiving and blessing, us for them, and they for us, was amazing. Hundreds of churches on both sides of the border built hundreds of homes for decades. Now, sadly, it is so dangerous it is simply not possible anymore. That is a much sadder outcome than just not being able to hunt and fish there anymore. Many US seniors used to cross the border for medications and dental care they could not afford in the US and to support many fine businesses and healthcare providers in Mexico, and boost local Mexican economies. People used to load utility trailers full of clothes, shoes, etc. and drive across clandestine roads into Mexico to distrbute their goods to the orphans living in the garbage dumps. It is not safe to go do any of that anymore. You always had to be careful, as in any third world, impoverished country, with many desperate people. Things are different now, in the last 10 years or so especially. There is just no reasonable expectation of safety anywhere in Mexico now as far as what I hear both officially and unofficially. The cartels have turned it into a war zone funded by US organized crime and the drug addicts here in the US. People should know every time they buy illegal weed, fentanyl, cocaine, whatever, they are funding the destruction of an entire country of people. Any safe day in Mexico now just means the "malos" were engaged elsewhere that day, or it is in their own interest not to bother you that day. Wait long enough, it won't be long, things will change. After a while, I started only going to Mexico with people from there who knew the place, especially if I was traveling deeply into Mexico. I would never go to Mexico anywhere under any circumstance now. I don't have to burn my hand on the stove to know it is hot. I can feel the heat.

There are dangerous places in all countries, as many have said, but there are also vastly larger safe areas where the rule of law predominates in most first world countries. In Mexico, people who know, say there is not a highway anywhere in the country that is safe to travel after dark, ANYWHERE. I do hear the same can be said of many African countries, but I have not seen THAT with my own eyes.
 
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On another note, as far as carrying handguns into Canada goes, I had a very different experience from others here. My wife and I were at Niagra Falls and decided to see them from the Canadian side. First of all, I would say there was a stark difference in how clean the streets were in Canada, compared to Buffalo, NY. Second, at the border checkpoint going into Canada, I was asked if I had anything to declare. I said "no, I don't think so." Again he stared at me and repeated the question. I answered the same. Then he asked, "Do you have a firearm in the car?" Then I understood. I had forgotten about the handgun in the trunk, unloaded, in a lockbox with ammo in another lockbox (US Constitutional Carry). I had to keep it that way in NY state and much of New England in those days anyway. I told the officer at the checkpoint that I did have a handgun in the trunk. He said I could turn around and go back to the US, or I could drive it over to the Canadian Customs office, and leave it there, then pick it up again on my way out of Canada. I told my wife I might loose the gun, but I did not want to ruin our trip to Canada. I left it with customs, and they gave me a signed receipt. On my way home, stopped again, presented my receipt, and got my gun back. Easy peasy, everyone was courteous and polite about everything.

Nice people those Canadians.
 
I spend a lot of time in Mexico. Working, hunting, diving, vacationing. There is risk, but I have been willing to accept that. I have taken my family on vacations, hunting in Sonora often. I understand the risk, weigh it and usually make the decision to accept that risk. Everyone can and should make their own choices in life. My choice involves spending time in Mexico. We make choices about risk in our lives every day. It’s your life, live it as you see fit.
 
I spend a lot of time in Mexico. Working, hunting, diving, vacationing. There is risk, but I have been willing to accept that. I have taken my family on vacations, hunting in Sonora often. I understand the risk, weigh it and usually make the decision to accept that risk. Everyone can and should make their own choices in life. My choice involves spending time in Mexico. We make choices about risk in our lives every day. It’s your life, live it as you see fit.
All the best to you.
 
On another note, as far as carrying handguns into Canada goes, I had a very different experience from others here. My wife and I were at Niagra Falls and decided to see them from the Canadian side. First of all, I would say there was a stark difference in how clean the streets were in Canada, compared to Buffalo, NY. Second, at the border checkpoint going into Canada, I was asked if I had anything to declare. I said "no, I don't think so." Again he stared at me and repeated the question. I answered the same. Then he asked, "Do you have a firearm in the car?" Then I understood. I had forgotten about the handgun in the trunk, unloaded, in a lockbox with ammo in another lockbox (US Constitutional Carry). I had to keep it that way in NY state and much of New England in those days anyway. I told the officer at the checkpoint that I did have a handgun in the trunk. He said I could turn around and go back to the US, or I could drive it over to the Canadian Customs office, and leave it there, then pick it up again on my way out of Canada. I told my wife I might loose the gun, but I did not want to ruin our trip to Canada. I left it with customs, and they gave me a signed receipt. On my way home, stopped again, presented my receipt, and got my gun back. Easy peasy, everyone was courteous and polite about everything.

Nice people those Canadians.
@mgstucson - what Year did you drive to Niagara Falls with a Handgun in your trunk? Just having that handgun in your car-trunk-Unloaded & locked up was a Felony in New York State….forget about Canada - it’s New York you need to worry about. New York does Not care that you are from Texas with a gun that is Legal there: Welcome to New York ! No Handguns are allowed in New York unless you have a Valid NY permit, even driving thru that State with any handgun is against NY Law —- although you would “likely” have an affirmative defense that if you were ONLY “passing thru” enroute somewhere that your handgun was legal ie: a Registered shooting competition or hunting in another State where the only way to drive (Maine?) was drive thru NY to get there. Massachusetts is similar regarding Handgun laws. While it is unlikely Police would pull you over and find a handgun in your car - it is a risk. New York & New Jersey both have very strict Handgun Laws and do Not even recognize each others permits - once you cross into either State with a Handgun you are in “Hostile territory”.
 
I live 60 miles north of Mexico. I hunt border lands just this side of Mexico. In all the Arizona hunting units on the border, it is legal and recommended to carry a personal protection firearm while bow hunting. These border units are the only areas of the state where it is legal to be in possession of a firearm while bow hunting. We regularly encounter "mules" carrying bales of drugs on their shoulders. These are usually Central American teenagers trying to come to US for work who are forced by cartel coyotes to carry drugs across the border, so cartel members have less risk of arrest. The "mules" are USUALLY unarmed (but you never really know) and terrified to see us, because they do not know who we are or why we are there armed, and if they do not deliver the drugs to the specified place, they and/or their families will be hunted down and killed. Under all previous administrations in the last 20 years, Dem or Rep, Border Patrol was very active in these areas (helicopters, off-road vehicles. etc.) interdicting illegals and repatriating them to their countries of origin (many from Central America) and intercepting drugs and incarcerating the offenders (often poor migrant workers forced to be "mules".) I have watched as one bus fills up with illegals just brought in by 4WD paddy wagons, and the next bus is waiting to pull into its place as the first bus pulls away, day after day, month after month, year after year. These were security buses with steel in the windows dropping people off at detention centers, not Greyhounds taking them to sanctuary cities. The only exception was the Biden administration who did not even staff the main highway checkpoints at all, (no one there, no "guides" needed here), much less was Border Patrol enabled to beat the brush to enforce the law as they had been under previous administrations. Last year I did not see one Border Patrol uniformed officer, vehicle, helicopter, or manned checkpoint in the area. Most Arizonans have stopped even hunting the US side near the border, or even driving or hiking there, because it is getting so dangerous. I would say in the areas we hunt, there is about a 80-90 percent reduction in the number of hunters compared to 10 or 15 years ago. Many of those are out of state hunters hunting with local outfitters. I am sure the out of state clients have no idea how dangerous the area is. Outfitters aren't making money by telling them that. I am considering stopping myself. There are some old families there, but according to news reports, other reports, and court records, many living in that area now are paid by the cartels to turn a blind eye to what happens on their own property and/or they are actually actively assisting the cartels. They have been sending them to prison, but with the new terrorist designation for cartels, those folks in the US are going to have their land seized by the government if they help the cartels. Across the border in Mexico it is several orders of magnitude worse, EXPONENTIALLY MORE DANGEROUS. From what my friends and clients tell me, who are from Mexico and travel from one end to the other, north and south, east and west, to see their families there, or used to, it is dangerous all over, just more so along the border. Anyone who tells you different is just not telling the truth, PERIOD. It is common knowledge here, not even debatable.

I used to visit Mexico often, just to shop or take family or friends who may be visiting from out of state on a day trip. Several churches in the US and Mexico formed a coalition across all denominational lines to provide funds and volunteers from the US and materials and vetting from Mexico and go down once per year and built single family homes for the impoverished families living in makeshift hovels on their own land. They were not big or fancy, just a 20'x20' house with 2 rooms, 2 windows and 2 doors, but they had a concrete floor, stucco walls, and an asphalt roof. We in the US would call it a basic tool shed, but for some of them it was the only real building they had ever lived in. Many were living with dirt floors and no roof before. To see the tears of gratitude when they were handed the keys to their own home, a safe home, and pray a prayer of thanksgiving and blessing, us for them, and they for us, was amazing. Hundreds of churches on both sides of the border built hundreds of homes for decades. Now, sadly, it is so dangerous it is simply not possible anymore. That is a much sadder outcome than just not being able to hunt and fish there anymore. Many US seniors used to cross the border for medications and dental care they could not afford in the US and to support many fine businesses and healthcare providers in Mexico, and boost local Mexican economies. People used to load utility trailers full of clothes, shoes, etc. and drive across clandestine roads into Mexico to distrbute their goods to the orphans living in the garbage dumps. It is not safe to go do any of that anymore. You always had to be careful, as in any third world, impoverished country, with many desperate people. Things are different now, in the last 10 years or so especially. There is just no reasonable expectation of safety anywhere in Mexico now as far as what I hear both officially and unofficially. The cartels have turned it into a war zone funded by US organized crime and the drug addicts here in the US. People should know every time they buy illegal weed, fentanyl, cocaine, whatever, they are funding the destruction of an entire country of people. Any safe day in Mexico now just means the "malos" were engaged elsewhere that day, or it is in their own interest not to bother you that day. Wait long enough, it won't be long, things will change. After a while, I started only going to Mexico with people from there who knew the place, especially if I was traveling deeply into Mexico. I would never go to Mexico anywhere under any circumstance now. I don't have to burn my hand on the stove to know it is hot. I can feel the heat.

There are dangerous places in all countries, as many have said, but there are also vastly larger safe areas where the rule of law predominates in most first world countries. In Mexico, people who know, say there is not a highway anywhere in the country that is safe to travel after dark, ANYWHERE. I do hear the same can be said of many African countries, but I have not seen THAT with my own eyes.
My family when our kids were young used to go to Honduras on mission trips building homes(shacks), distributing food and clothing, etc. same thing happened there. Due to drugs and gangs, the mission trips had to cease due to safety concerns. A sad situation indeed for the true needy.
 
We leave at the end of the month for our family vacation in Cancun. Wife has been getting progressively more worried about the trip. Her tile guy (she's a home builder) just got back. He said they took a private car from the airport to the resort, as we do. At some point they got boxed in and he had to pay $20 per person in the car. He's originally from Mexico, and said it probably would've ended in a brawl on the side of the road, but he had his wife and kids with him. He paid and they were able to leave.
 
@mgstucson - what Year did you drive to Niagara Falls with a Handgun in your trunk? Just having that handgun in your car-trunk-Unloaded & locked up was a Felony in New York State….forget about Canada - it’s New York you need to worry about. New York does Not care that you are from Texas with a gun that is Legal there: Welcome to New York ! No Handguns are allowed in New York unless you have a Valid NY permit, even driving thru that State with any handgun is against NY Law —- although you would “likely” have an affirmative defense that if you were ONLY “passing thru” enroute somewhere that your handgun was legal ie: a Registered shooting competition or hunting in another State where the only way to drive (Maine?) was drive thru NY to get there. Massachusetts is similar regarding Handgun laws. While it is unlikely Police would pull you over and find a handgun in your car - it is a risk. New York & New Jersey both have very strict Handgun Laws and do Not even recognize each others permits - once you cross into either State with a Handgun you are in “Hostile territory”.
Yes, and I believe Canada Customs stopped storing handguns for tourists a long time ago. As I understand it, now people who declare handguns are turned back. And that licence/passport will undoubtedly be flagged in their system. Expext a vehicle search next time(s) a crossing is attempted.

There is still, I believe, some kind of special allowance for driving to Alaska ... but don't deviate from the course. I seem to recall reading about an Amercan idiot who decided to make a side trip through Banff and had a car accident. Cops found guns in the vehicle. Guns went into the furnace and he got a one way bus ticket to the border.
 
@mgstucson - what Year did you drive to Niagara Falls with a Handgun in your trunk? Just having that handgun in your car-trunk-Unloaded & locked up was a Felony in New York State….forget about Canada - it’s New York you need to worry about. New York does Not care that you are from Texas with a gun that is Legal there: Welcome to New York ! No Handguns are allowed in New York unless you have a Valid NY permit, even driving thru that State with any handgun is against NY Law —- although you would “likely” have an affirmative defense that if you were ONLY “passing thru” enroute somewhere that your handgun was legal ie: a Registered shooting competition or hunting in another State where the only way to drive (Maine?) was drive thru NY to get there. Massachusetts is similar regarding Handgun laws. While it is unlikely Police would pull you over and find a handgun in your car - it is a risk. New York & New Jersey both have very strict Handgun Laws and do Not even recognize each others permits - once you cross into either State with a Handgun you are in “Hostile territory”.
Yes, and I believe Canada Customs stopped storing handguns for tourists a long time ago. As I understand it, now people who declare handguns are turned back. And that licence/passport will undoubtedly be flagged in their system. Expect a vehicle search next time(s) a crossing is attempted.

There is still, I believe, some kind of special allowance for driving to Alaska ... but don't deviate from the course. I seem to recall reading about an Amercan idiot who crossed in BC and decided to make a side trip through Banff in Alberta. He had a car accident and cops found guns in the vehicle. Guns went into the furnace and he got a one way bus ticket to the border.
 
My personal opinion is the US government hates that we vacation in Mexico cheaper than the US. The also hate that you can hunt Africa or fish Central America cheaper than you can in America. They're basically trying to keep that retirement income home. The government doing a good job of doing that.
Not the case, like MANY retired US military, fire and police - you can move to Costa Rica and have zero tax on foreign income and live in the most educated country in central America; so those pension checks go much further.

FYI foreigners granted legal residency in Costa Rica can own firearms; either by buying locally or even import your own personal weapons.
 
My personal opinion is the US government hates that we vacation in Mexico cheaper than the US. The also hate that you can hunt Africa or fish Central America cheaper than you can in America. They're basically trying to keep that retirement income home. The government doing a good job of doing that.
That conspiracy theory wins the silver medal. A close second behind govt implanted computer chips in COVID vaccines. :D
 
@mgstucson - what Year did you drive to Niagara Falls with a Handgun in your trunk? Just having that handgun in your car-trunk-Unloaded & locked up was a Felony in New York State….forget about Canada - it’s New York you need to worry about. New York does Not care that you are from Texas with a gun that is Legal there: Welcome to New York ! No Handguns are allowed in New York unless you have a Valid NY permit, even driving thru that State with any handgun is against NY Law —- although you would “likely” have an affirmative defense that if you were ONLY “passing thru” enroute somewhere that your handgun was legal ie: a Registered shooting competition or hunting in another State where the only way to drive (Maine?) was drive thru NY to get there. Massachusetts is similar regarding Handgun laws. While it is unlikely Police would pull you over and find a handgun in your car - it is a risk. New York & New Jersey both have very strict Handgun Laws and do Not even recognize each others permits - once you cross into either State with a Handgun you are in “Hostile territory”.
This was nearly 25 years ago, but all the draconian NY, NJ, MA, etc. laws were in place. I was carrying in STRICT accordance to FEDERAL law which expressly SUPERCEDES ALL STATE LAWS (had a copy of the pertinent section of the federal code on my person at the time). That is why I said I was already carrying that way before I got to the border. As they say, I might not beat the ride (to the police station). but I would have beaten the rap (to prison.)
 
@mgstucson - what Year did you drive to Niagara Falls with a Handgun in your trunk? Just having that handgun in your car-trunk-Unloaded & locked up was a Felony in New York State….forget about Canada - it’s New York you need to worry about. New York does Not care that you are from Texas with a gun that is Legal there: Welcome to New York ! No Handguns are allowed in New York unless you have a Valid NY permit, even driving thru that State with any handgun is against NY Law —- although you would “likely” have an affirmative defense that if you were ONLY “passing thru” enroute somewhere that your handgun was legal ie: a Registered shooting competition or hunting in another State where the only way to drive (Maine?) was drive thru NY to get there. Massachusetts is similar regarding Handgun laws. While it is unlikely Police would pull you over and find a handgun in your car - it is a risk. New York & New Jersey both have very strict Handgun Laws and do Not even recognize each others permits - once you cross into either State with a Handgun you are in “Hostile territory”.
my younger sister lives in new jersey and i will not go there to visit. i told her i would pay her way here when she wants to visit.
 

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