Why no hunting in India, and could it ever be re-opened?

[mark-hunter]

My apologies, I am spending too much time talking about me on a hunting thread.. sorry folks.

Dont worry!

When visiting USA at your daughters later, you can also take some rifle lessons, and once when you are confident in your skill, go hunting a plains game package, to Namibia, or South Africa with rental rifle.
You can also ask your outfitter to place you on a blind in a tree, where your rifle will have steady rest.

And then bring your trophies to India! (despite all odds!!) When there is a will, there is a way! And Africa is dream land to hunt!

Life is always too short, use it wisely!

 

[mark-hunter]

Human-animal conflict turns fatal: Locals suspected of killing tiger in Numaligarh

Villagers discovered the mutilated carcass—missing claws, teeth & tail—before informing forest officials

assamtribune.com

"Improvised hunting"

 

[bigborelover]

As someone from India , not a chance in Hell , especially with the current Govt. Also , my great grandfather was a hunter , he used a 12 bore shotgun and a .423 mauser rifle , both of which were kept int he family (legally) after the ban .

 

[grand veneur]

It is certainly true that hunting can contribute to the conservation of species, but the African hunting model cannot be transferred to a country like India for many reasons. The countries of Southeast and South Asia also have a very different economic dynamic than the countries in Africa, so that nature conservation and wildlife protection are not always a top priority. In Malaysia, the jungle has had to make way for oil palm and Hevea plantations. The trees of the jungle have also interested many. It will be no different in other countries on this part of Asia. Everyone also knows that this part of the world is very densely populated. All of this makes a reopening of hunting in all this countries and especially India, and its practice as we know it in Africa, rather utopian. It will always be necessary to shoot problem animals somewhere, but there will be enough local hunters who will be ahead of us in the line for these hunts.

 

[DieJager]

It is certainly true that hunting can contribute to the conservation of species, but the African hunting model cannot be transferred to a country like India for many reasons. The countries of Southeast and South Asia also have a very different economic dynamic than the countries in Africa, so that nature conservation and wildlife protection are not always a top priority. In Malaysia, the jungle has had to make way for oil palm and Hevea plantations. The trees of the jungle have also interested many. It will be no different in other countries on this part of Asia. Everyone also knows that this part of the world is very densely populated. All of this makes a reopening of hunting in all this countries and especially India, and its practice as we know it in Africa, rather utopian. It will always be necessary to shoot problem animals somewhere, but there will be enough local hunters who will be ahead of us in the line for these hunts.

The context is different indeed but controlled hunting of species can definitely be a boon to wildlife. Not every part is highly populated and to have another source of income while keeping nature undeveloped can be done.

This has to be in combination with a good government and willpower. Never say never.

 

[grand veneur]

The context is different indeed but controlled hunting of species can definitely be a boon to wildlife. Not every part is highly populated and to have another source of income while keeping nature undeveloped can be done.

This has to be in combination with a good government and willpower. Never say never.

Sure, we don't know, but I am not optimistic. It is better to do everything possible to preserve the areas we currently hunt, especially in Africa. I don't believe that things will continue like this with a political sphere of influence that is increasingly less Western-oriented. In Africa, there are countries that should not be activated, but rather encouraged to engage in organized hunting for foreigners. I am thinking of West African countries like Guinea Bissau, Guinea Conakry, Sierra Leone and Liberia, where hunting is permitted, even for foreigners, but where there is no infrastructure for foreigners to practice hunting. Another interesting topic.

 

[DieJager]

Sure, we don't know, but I am not optimistic. It is better to do everything possible to preserve the areas we currently hunt, especially in Africa. I don't believe that things will continue like this with a political sphere of influence that is increasingly less Western-oriented. In Africa, there are countries that should not be activated, but rather encouraged to engage in organized hunting for foreigners. I am thinking of West African countries like Guinea Bissau, Guinea Conakry, Sierra Leone and Liberia, where hunting is permitted, even for foreigners, but where there is no infrastructure for foreigners to practice hunting. Another interesting topic.

For sure there are some undeveloped gems. I know of one company that is offering big game hunts in Guinea Bissau (talked extensively to them but too much uncertainty and rather high prices) and also other ones in Liberia. Although the reports from Liberia are rather mixed on the density of game.

Malaysia has some nice hunting opportunities these days from saltwater crocodile, axis deer, bearded pigs, mouse deer to water buffalo.
Sudan had some opportunities until the recent conflict flared up. Talked to ProfiHunt on Jagd und Hund exhibition.

I'm rather positive minded but still we need to do all we can to preserve hunting. I try to motivate my fellow hunters also to step up their game and get involved in being board members etc. We will always be in the minority.

 

[bimbo]

Sure, we don't know, but I am not optimistic. It is better to do everything possible to preserve the areas we currently hunt, especially in Africa. I don't believe that things will continue like this with a political sphere of influence that is increasingly less Western-oriented. In Africa, there are countries that should not be activated, but rather encouraged to engage in organized hunting for foreigners. I am thinking of West African countries like Guinea Bissau, Guinea Conakry, Sierra Leone and Liberia, where hunting is permitted, even for foreigners, but where there is no infrastructure for foreigners to practice hunting. Another interesting topic.

Several years ago ,an european agenzy ,specialized for every hunting all around the world, did offered me an hunting land concession in Guinea Conakry ,camp inclusive, and my job could have been as PH .Duiker roan and savanna buffalo was in the menu.
All was ready... but a golpe of army's general, called Camara' ,have sent everything in the litter...it 's Africa...

 

[Tiger2001]

I lived and worked in India for a couple of years in the early 2000's and then in Nepal. I had one opportunity to go pheasant hunting--unofficially--with a retired Indian general named PK Pallet. He was one of (if not the only one left) "KCIO" King's Commissioned Indian Officers. Anyway I declined the offer as I worked at the US Embassy at the time and didn't want to be caught poaching. I of course always regretted it since but I know it was the right call at the time. Anyway there was a young Indian woman who was a regular at our equestrian club. She worked for Project Tiger and I remember asking her about tiger hunting in India ever being re-instated to provide conservation funds as is done in Africa. To my surprise she was for the idea but pointed out correctly that any exception for hunting would be exploited in India and by Indians in particular. One would always have the class status, money, or connections to find a way to hunt if they lifted the ban for foreigners to come for controlled hunts. For that reason she felt India had no choice to but to implement a total ban with no exceptions. I found her reasoning to be understandable all these years later. And as an Indian herself she was surprisingly introspective re her own culture. What she said was true.

 

[Tiger2001]

For sure there are some undeveloped gems. I know of one company that is offering big game hunts in Guinea Bissau (talked extensively to them but too much uncertainty and rather high prices) and also other ones in Liberia. Although the reports from Liberia are rather mixed on the density of game.

Malaysia has some nice hunting opportunities these days from saltwater crocodile, axis deer, bearded pigs, mouse deer to water buffalo.
Sudan had some opportunities until the recent conflict flared up. Talked to ProfiHunt on Jagd und Hund exhibition.

I'm rather positive minded but still we need to do all we can to preserve hunting. I try to motivate my fellow hunters also to step up their game and get involved in being board members etc. We will always be in the minority.

Would have any additional information on hunting in Malaysia to share?

 

[DieJager]

Would have any additional information on hunting in Malaysia to share?

Other than already shared not much to be honest. Some additional species can be hunted and I wrongfully stated Axis deer but meant sambar deer. HuntGeo is one of the companies that offers hunts there.

Did not hunt there myself. But still dreaming to go there someday.

 

[Hunter-Habib]

Would have any additional information on hunting in Malaysia to share?

Got a Sambar stag & two wild boars there. Boar is relatively easily to bag. Sambar is largely a matter of luck.

 

[Tiger2001]

Other than already shared not much to be honest. Some additional species can be hunted and I wrongfully stated Axis deer but meant sambar deer. HuntGeo is one of the companies that offers hunts there.

Did not hunt there myself. But still dreaming to go there someday.

Thanks for the tip. I wrote to HuntGeo last night but have not heard back yet.

 

[Tiger2001]

Got a Sambar stag & two wild boars there. Boar is relatively easily to bag. Sambar is largely a matter of luck.
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Great photo Sir! Was this a while ago?

 

[DieJager]

Thanks for the tip. I wrote to HuntGeo last night but have not heard back yet.

I see that you're from Germany then I would contact Malepartus Jagdreisen. They have a whole section on their website regarding Malaysia with detailed pricing. It is in German and is a German company.

Mein Deutsch ist nicht so gut, ich spreche ein klein bisschen Deutsch. Ich verstehen das Gut.

 

[Hunter-Habib]

Great photo Sir! Was this a while ago?

Why, thank you. Yes, it was in 1980.