Wow.
You're pretty sick. Maybe Tylenol or some Mydol??
I have to ask, have you ever shot anything in 6.5CM? If not, you're opinion is simply that. I think Hunter Habib said it best. Our parents didn't like our choices, and we don't like the next generations choices. However, without trying it, we are the ignorant ones.
I hesitated a long time before trying the 6.5CM. A very good friend, who has taken more mammals than most recommended it. I tried it, and yup, it works. We've taken (several) wild boar, white tail and yes, elk with this cartridge.
Now, we practice shot placement - aim small, miss small. All of them have been 1 shot drops. We had an instance where the wild boar was a 2 fer. Shot hit the primary, killed it, passed through, and killed the secondary.
I'm really happy that people are interested in shooting this round, and shooting in general. Call it what you want, think about it how you will, but until you actually use it, STFU.
Hello CraigV,
I must be sick as well.
But, I promise to press my bandana over my air holes, when I sneeze.
Anyway, I’ve shot two Polynesian boar and one whitetail doe with one shot each from two different brands of borrowed 6.5 Creedmoor rifles (Ruger and Remington).
All 3 critters were taken with Hornady factory loaded 140 gr spitzers.
These were the ones with lead core and a plastic thingy in the tip.
Predictably, those rifles in that caliber did EXACTLY the same thing as my CZ 550 in 6.5x55 would’ve done —> bangdead.
So I have to conclude that specifically for my needs, the new Creedmoor cartridge does absolutely nothing new or better, nothing.
Be that as it may, progress is generally speaking, not a bad thing, (particularly in the Medical profession).
However, some people seem to mistake sales gimmick for progress.
Apparently a large percentage of these “new is always better” types are easily swayed and quickly enamored with anything and everything that’s new.
No offense intended, that is simply an observation, not a cheap shot.
I suppose it’s easy for the “new is always better” folks to snap judge people who like myself, are not easily influenced and way not easily fooled.
And, I suppose it’s easy to lump us “show me” types into the elderly category.
Indeed I am old, almost fossilized actually.
However, my age has absolutely nothing to do with my resistance toward sales gimmicks.
Even when I was young, if someone could not show me an advantage to their latest product, compared to what I already had, it was always a no sale.
I’ve been like this a mighty, mighty long time.
One Example:
When I was in high school (a couple hundred years ago), CCI ammunition company marketed a version of their .22 Long Rifle “Mini-Mag” ammunition as having an “internal belt”.
Even at my then tender age, I thought, “Wow, what nitwit will fall for that reduced-powder-space sales gimmick” ?
Lo & behold, my best friend and regular hunting - fishing partner, fell for it.
Upon firing up a box of 50 rounds, he sheepishly admitted, “They gypped me, because these expensive Faulkers only shoot like regular .22 shells do” or, words to that affect.
My response was something like, “well, duh”.
Don’t worry folks, I’m running out of steam here so, my rant will end soon.
At the risk of mistaking what other “show me” people are thinking, we don’t begrudge makers and retailers for bringing out new products.
Specifically myself, I don’t even mind all their “glittering generalities” (aka: lies), in trying to sell to me their latest products.
What offends me and people like me is the fact that with No Warning At All, they suddenly stop production of the ammunition we need.
This, so that they can run their ammunition loading factories round the clock, flooding the market with their does-nothing-different new cartridge.
Too bad they can’t first, briefly flood the market, with whatever well established cartridge they decide to kill and announce their intentions to us consumers, BEFORE killing off whatever it is each time.
That way, we could at least buy the estimated amount of cartridges we will need to last us as long as we think we will be using them.
As far as shooting super tiny 5 shot, one hole groups in paper at name your distance, and / or hitting very small targets at 1,000 yards, most hunters, myself included, don’t care about that …….. not even a little bit.
However, Bryan Smith of South Africa was doing both of those things with his 6.5x55 in the global rifle shooting competition scene, (until tragically killed on his farm, by a buffalo stud bull that was corralled to be vaccinated).
So, all this talk of the Creedmoor 6.5 being more accurate than its 100+ year old ballistic twin is simply not so.
I predict that, if - name your manufacturer - made a batch of otherwise identical rifles, except that half of them were chambered in the new 6.5 cartridge and the other half of them in the century plus old original version, all would show essentially the same accuracy.
Anyway, rant over.
Cheers,
Velo Dog
PS:
What’s all this latest trend with square toed cowboy boots these days ?
Sheesh.
