Whistling Past The Graveyard?

The country of RSA has finally been handed over and governed by its "rightful owners."

Now RSA is the land of milk and honey, just like Zimbabwe.

Thank God that Black Africans were finally given the chance to show the world what they can do if only given the opportunity
 
My outfitter is very cognizant of the problems in RSA and has shared much with me.


(I told him just to walk across the southern border of the US and have his assets in crypto, or bring a bag full of Krugerrands and I'll pick up up halfway between Key West and Cuba)


He is the type who will send his family, but stay and fight until he sees that all hope is lost.


Within 2 years, he would be well situated among the top 10% in the USA, because he knows how to run his own businesses.
 
Peter Godwins books about his childhood in Rhodesia and his later returns to Zimbabwe is interesting reading.
Seems there is something in Africa that makes a need to destruct befoe possibly building back?
 
With no borders here in the USA, we are not far behind. Our children and grandchildren will likely be out-voted by the progeny of the uneducated illegal immigrants coming here to drop babies that will automatically be voting citizens. I’m not sure our educational system can absorb everyone.

In parts of Africa, the European pull out from their African colonies was inevitable but likely happened too fast without enough transition. The needed slower transition would have been looked upon as more racism. The Africans wanted immediate independence but the education necessary to run functioning governments and industries doesn’t happen overnight.
 
With no borders here in the USA, we are not far behind. Our children and grandchildren will likely be out-voted by the progeny of the uneducated illegal immigrants coming here to drop babies that will automatically be voting citizens. I’m not sure our educational system can absorb everyone.

In parts of Africa, the European pull out from their African colonies was inevitable but likely happened too fast without enough transition. The needed slower transition would have been looked upon as more racism. The Africans wanted immediate independence but the education necessary to run functioning governments and industries doesn’t happen overnight.
Before the arrival of White Europeans, Black Africans were essentially living a primitive, Paleolithic Lifestyle without any advancements or inovation.....no written history, permanent structures, or infrastructure....no nothing. They didn't even develop the wheel. Even their art was simple stick-figure like depictions of people and animals

Essentially, eat, sleep, kill, fight neighboring tribes, have sex and make more babies.

Repeat the above for 100's of thousands of years.

Compare that to what was going on at the time in Greece, China, Babalon, and Egypt (sorry Black Activists-Egyptians weren't Black) then fast forward to modern times and it shouldn't come as a surprise that modern-day Black Africans aren't able to balance a checkbook, nevermind effectively govern a fully developed country...even when it was handed over to them such as it was with Zimbabwe.

Some here might not like what I just wrote but you can't argue that I am wrong
 
As a young South African (30’s) I couldn’t find a job after getting my Masters degree in science which I finished in 2014. I applied far and wide and always got the standard response of ‘not meeting the criteria’. I applied for an overseas PhD and was accepted with a fully funded package, so I left for the UK in 2015. After graduating I lived and worked outside of SA but in early 2021 I moved back home thinking (or having forgotten) what life was like. The lifestyle was great behind the high walls, but shortly after moving back I had to live through the Durban riots and attempted insurrection. The Blue Flag beaches were long gone and the smell at the beaches in Umhlanga was at times terrible. The general sense of lawlessness had increased a lot- traffic cameras don’t work so why bother stopping.
Cars with no number plates etc. Also a huge increase in the number of burglaries in the neighbourhood. Any government based admin like getting a new drivers licence card is done by paying the right people. I lived with my mum and took her house off the grid- borehole for water and solar power. Anyway I left again back for the UK in Nov last year. Not looking back. My last friend left in SA is leaving to join Africa Parks in Angola next month. I have an EU passport so I am one of the lucky ones.
 
A lot of my Zim friends took the gap to Australia. I would think Australia would scoop up anyone wanting to leave,
 
Before the arrival of White Europeans, Black Africans were essentially living a primitive, Paleolithic Lifestyle without any advancements or inovation.....no written history, permanent structures, or infrastructure....no nothing. They didn't even develop the wheel. Even their art was simple stick-figure like depictions of people and animals

Essentially, eat, sleep, kill, fight neighboring tribes, have sex and make more babies.

Repeat the above for 100's of thousands of years.

Compare that to what was going on at the time in Greece, China, Babalon, and Egypt (sorry Black Activists-Egyptians weren't Black) then fast forward to modern times and it shouldn't come as a surprise that modern-day Black Africans aren't able to balance a checkbook, nevermind effectively govern a fully developed country...even when it was handed over to them such as it was with Zimbabwe.

Some here might not like what I just wrote but you can't argue that I am wrong
The people living in what is now the USA before the arrival of Europeans lived in a similar way. However, I don’t agree that it’s because of an implied lack of intelligence.

I once read a book (I don’t remember the title) that laid out reasons for less inventiveness of some cultures due to a great abundance of natural resources available at the fingertips of those cultures. In much of Africa, the megafauna, megaflora and fairly warm climate made putting food in the stomach and getting through the year fairly easy when compared to other parts of the world. People could fairly easily hunt and gather food and didn’t need to prepare for winter. In the Rocky Mountains and Great Plains of North America, people were also surrounded by lots of natural resources and millions of buffalo. Some tribes migrated and moved their camps with the seasons and animal movements. They didn’t develop metallurgy, gun powder, etc… and were more nomadic.
 
The people living in what is now the USA before the arrival of Europeans lived in a similar way. However, I don’t agree that it’s because of an implied lack of intelligence.

I once read a book (I don’t remember the title) that laid out reasons for less inventiveness of some cultures due to a great abundance of natural resources available at the fingertips of those cultures. In much of Africa, the megafauna, megaflora and fairly warm climate made putting food in the stomach and getting through the year fairly easy when compared to other parts of the world. People could fairly easily hunt and gather food and didn’t need to prepare for winter. In the Rocky Mountains and Great Plains of North America, people were also surrounded by lots of natural resources and millions of buffalo. Some tribes migrated and moved their camps with the seasons and animal movements. They didn’t develop metallurgy, gun powder, etc… and were more nomadic.
Maybe something by Thomas Sowell?
 
Cultures throughout history have reacted differently to increasing food security. Many, including Asian, European, and Central American cultures, leveraged their increased free time to make astonishing advancements in a variety of fields including the arts, mathematics , science, theology, even military tactics and strategy. Some with more food security didn’t see a flourishing of their cultures.
 
The people living in what is now the USA before the arrival of Europeans lived in a similar way. However, I don’t agree that it’s because of an implied lack of intelligence.

I once read a book (I don’t remember the title) that laid out reasons for less inventiveness of some cultures due to a great abundance of natural resources available at the fingertips of those cultures. In much of Africa, the megafauna, megaflora and fairly warm climate made putting food in the stomach and getting through the year fairly easy when compared to other parts of the world. People could fairly easily hunt and gather food and didn’t need to prepare for winter. In the Rocky Mountains and Great Plains of North America, people were also surrounded by lots of natural resources and millions of buffalo. Some tribes migrated and moved their camps with the seasons and animal movements. They didn’t develop metallurgy, gun powder, etc… and were more nomadic.
I think that you are absolutely correct.
Black African brains did not develop because they didn’t have to.
 
Maybe something by Thomas Sowell?
I don’t think so but Sowell touches on many of the same thoughts in his book, “Race, Culture and Equality” as quoted below:

“A network of rivers in Western Europe flow gently through vast plains, connecting wide areas economically and culturally. The rivers of tropical Africa plunge a thousand feet or more on their way to the sea, with cascades and waterfalls making them navigable only for stretches between these natural barriers--and the coastal plain in Africa averages just 20 miles. Regular rainfall and melting snows keep the rivers of Western Europe flowing throughout the year but African rivers have neither--and so rise and fall dramatically with the seasons, further limiting their usefulness. The two continents are at least as dramatically different when it comes to natural harbors. Although Africa is more than twice the size of Europe, it has a shorter coastline. That is because the European coastline continually twists and turns, creating innumerable harbors, while the African coastline is smooth, with few harbors. How surprising is it that international commerce has played a much smaller role in the economic history of Africa than in that of Europe in general and Western Europe in particular?

Nothing so intractably conflicts with our desires for equality as geography. Yet the physical settings in which races, nations, and civilizations have evolved have had major impacts on the cultures developed within those settings. At its simplest and crudest, the peoples of the Himalayas have not had an equal opportunity to acquire seafaring skills. Nor have Eskimos had an equal opportunity to acquire knowledge and experience in growing pineapples or other tropical crops.

Too often the influence of geography on wealth is thought of narrowly, in terms of natural resources that directly translate into wealth, such as oil in the Middle East or gold in South Africa. But, important as such differences in natural wealth are, geography influences even more profound cultural differences among the people themselves.

Where geography isolates people, whether in mountain valleys or on small islands scattered across a vast sea, there the cultural exposures of those people to the outside world are very limited and so, typically, is their technological advancement. While the rest of the world exchanges goods, knowledge, and innovations from a vast cultural universe, isolated peoples have been largely limited to what they alone have been able to develop.

Few, if any, of the great advances in human civilization have come from isolated peoples. As the eminent French historian Fernand Braudel put it, the mountains almost always lag behind the plains--even if the races in the two places are the same. Potatoes and the English language both reached the Scottish lowlands before they reached the highlands. Islam reached North Africa's Rif mountains long after the people in the plains had become Moslems.

Geographically imposed cultural isolation takes many forms and exists in many degrees. Cities have long been in the vanguard of human progress, all over the world, but cities do not arise randomly in all geographic settings. Most of the great cities of the world have developed on navigable waterways--rivers or harbors--but such waterways are by no means equally or randomly distributed around the world. They are very common in Western Europe and very rare in sub-Saharan Africa. Urbanization has long been correspondingly common in Western Europe and correspondingly rare in sub-Saharan Africa. One-third of the land mass of Europe consists of islands and peninsulas but only one percent of the land mass of South America consists of islands and peninsulas.

Navigable waterways have been economically crucial, especially during the millennia of human history before the development of railroads, trucks, and airplanes. Before the transcontinental railroad was built, it was both faster and cheaper to reach San Francisco from a port in China than from Saint Louis. People in the city of Tbilisi bought their kerosene from Texas--8,000 miles away across water--rather than from the Baku oil fields, less than 400 miles away across land.

Such vast differences in costs between water transport and land transport affect what can be transported and how far. Gold or diamonds can repay the costs of transport across thousands of miles of land, but grain or coal cannot. More important, the size of a people's cultural universe depends on how far they can reach out to other peoples and other cultures. No great civilization has developed in isolation. Geography in general and navigable waterways in particular set the limits of a people's cultural universe, broadly or narrowly. But these limits are by no means set equally for all peoples or all civilization.

For example, when the British first crossed the Atlantic and confronted the Iroquois on the eastern seaboard of what is today the United States, they were able to steer across that ocean in the first place because they used rudders invented in China, they could navigate on the open seas with the help of trigonometry invented in Egypt, their calculations were done with numbers invented in India, and their general knowledge was preserved in letters invented by the Romans. But the Iroquois could not draw upon the knowledge of the Aztecs or the Incas, whose very existence they had no way of knowing. The clash was not between the culture created by the British versus the culture created by the Iroquois. It was a clash between cultural developments drawn from vast regions of the world versus cultural developments from a much more circumscribed area. The cultural opportunities were unequal and the outcomes were unequal. Geography has never been egalitarian.

A network of rivers in Western Europe flow gently through vast plains, connecting wide areas economically and culturally. The rivers of tropical Africa plunge a thousand feet or more on their way to the sea, with cascades and waterfalls making them navigable only for stretches between these natural barriers--and the coastal plain in Africa averages just 20 miles. Regular rainfall and melting snows keep the rivers of Western Europe flowing throughout the year but African rivers have neither--and so rise and fall dramatically with the seasons, further limiting their usefulness. The two continents are at least as dramatically different when it comes to natural harbors. Although Africa is more than twice the size of Europe, it has a shorter coastline. That is because the European coastline continually twists and turns, creating innumerable harbors, while the African coastline is smooth, with few harbors. How surprising is it that international commerce has played a much smaller role in the economic history of Africa than in that of Europe in general and Western Europe in particular?

These particular geographic disparities are by no means exhaustive. But they are suggestive of some of the many ways in which physical settings have expanded or constricted the size of the cultural universe available to different peoples. One revealing indication of cultural fragmentation is that African peoples are 10 percent of the world's population but have one-third of the world's languages.”
 
I think that you are absolutely correct.
Black African brains did not develop because they didn’t have to.
The brains are roughly the same. I know lots of very smart black people and lots of dumb white people. People have different skills. I have marveled at the hunting abilities of black trackers. When life depends on it, people develop different skills based on where they live and what is important in that culture to survive. As Sowell says, isolation also limits inventiveness. China developed lots of shipping technology and gun powder. Egypt developed trigonometry. The list goes on. Other cultures came into contact with each other and learned from one another. Africa and North America were more isolated.
 
The brains are roughly the same. I know lots of very smart black people and lots of dumb white people. People have different skills. I have marveled at the hunting abilities of black trackers. When life depends on it, people develop different skills based on where they live and what is important in that culture to survive. As Sowell says, isolation also limits inventiveness. China developed lots of shipping technology and gun powder. Egypt developed trigonometry. The list goes on. Other cultures came into contact with each other and learned from one another. Africa and North America were more isolated.
Absolutely. Brains are brains but they develop in a way that suits humans needs and requirements

I am sure that if whites were living in isolated prehistoric Africa, they would have similar brain development
 
Absolutely. Brains are brains but they develop in a way that suits humans needs and requirements

I am sure that if whites were living in isolated prehistoric Africa, they would have similar brain development
It’s not the development of the brain. It is what you use it for to survive in your environment and your exposure to other outside ideas. If more isolated, you don’t learn from other cultures and they don’t learn from you but the brain is fully capable. That’s why today, with global transportation and education, anyone is capable of great things, if they apply themselves.
 
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It’s not the development of the brain. It is what you use it for to survive in your environment and your exposure to other outside ideas. If more isolated, you don’t learn from other cultures and they don’t learn from you but the brain is fully capable. That’s why today, with global transportation and education, anyone is capable of great things, if they apply themselves.
I think that we are using different words to say the same thing
 
I did not realise it was this bad already. This is nihilism
 
It was very eye opening for us when we were in the Eastern Cape last spring (via Johannesburg). Jburg felt like a Mad Max movie, and the miles of abandoned rail equpment was very sady, knowing that at one time SA was recognized for its rail service. All our guides/hosts were very depressed over the future, and worried for thier families.
 
With no borders here in the USA, we are not far behind. Our children and grandchildren will likely be out-voted by the progeny of the uneducated illegal immigrants coming here to drop babies that will automatically be voting citizens. I’m not sure our educational system can absorb everyone.

In parts of Africa, the European pull out from their African colonies was inevitable but likely happened too fast without enough transition. The needed slower transition would have been looked upon as more racism. The Africans wanted immediate independence but the education necessary to run functioning governments and industries doesn’t happen overnight.
Who says "they" need to drop babies or even become citizens to VOTE!!
 

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