What's the deal with stainless barrels

I guess I’ve always thought that a shiny stainless barrel up in the air was a bit akin to carrying a white flag. I don’t really like the look of them and only have one .22 mag and one .17 WSM in stainless.
I would like to cerakote some rifles for use in wet areas.
 
I had to do a lot of searching, but I found this thread I remembered reading about what a PH really wants his client to bring to Africa and what they should leave behind. Shiny stainless barrels (along with shiny stocks and light-colored clothes) are mentioned in the leave-behind list:
Scotchbrite will cure the shiny barrel.
 
I guess I’ve always thought that a shiny stainless barrel up in the air was a bit akin to carrying a white flag. I don’t really like the look of them and only have one .22 mag and one .17 WSM in stainless.
I would like to cerakote some rifles for use in wet areas.

Totally agree, and a Teflon/cerakoted stainless rifle is about as impervious to the elements as you can get. I was shocked at how quickly stainless rusted in salt spray before I had mine coated.
 
I've hunted with stainless barrels a lot and mine don't rust, kinda the reason I got it so I wasn't beating up my wood stocked and blued guns. I work in a machine shop and I've seen some stainless corrode some but not my guns

I can assure, if you bring one
bear hunting where we’re running the zodiac in the spray, it will have rust on it before we get back to the boat in the evening. Nothing that can’t be cleaned up, but it will be there.
 
I can assure, if you bring one
bear hunting where we’re running the zodiac in the spray, it will have rust on it before we get back to the boat in the evening. Nothing that can’t be cleaned up, but it will be there.
Oh yeah I bet salt water will spot stainless up a bit. I'm not near the ocean but it is a high humidity area most of the year. I gotta worry more about salt from sweat lol
 
I used to think that @philip but I guess I don't think so anymore? I've shot enough moose and caribou that I don't give it any thought, and it sure didn't seem to matter in Africa. Probably I have spooked something or other and just didn't know but I don't think of it as an issue anymore.
 
I don't believe that it spooks animals anymore than a dark blue barrel that is reflecting light off of it.

You just need to be aware of anything that is reflective.
 
I don't believe that it spooks animals anymore than a dark blue barrel that is reflecting light off of it.

You just need to be aware of anything that is reflective.
Clothing detergent is more important than gun barrel color/shine. That and human stink.
 
The only time I have had concerns about barrel shine was in a leopard blind - and we wrapped the barrel with camo cloth.
 
Stainless barrel and coat it with black nitride. There will be no “glare” and will outlast the rest of the rifle.
 
I don’t think iron sights and stainless barrels have anything against each other. Perhaps I misunderstood your statement though.
if fitted by soldering, will be difficult, if not impossible. There are fluxes for stainless steel, but.... I have my doubts.
Also, double barrel guns in stainless steel? How to do? certainly, not by classic methods.
So, I am sure, there are some issues on stainless steel in production of rifles.
 
If I could purchase all the big bore rifles I have in stainless with a matte finish I would, but I do live in one of the most tropical areas in the world. Keeping blued rifles from rusting in the climate I live and hunt in is a nightmare. Verney will make you a stainless double if you want one I have already looked into it and am still considering it for my next purchase.
 
I live on the banks of Kariba. Most of our hunting takes place in this area. Humidity is very high. We have to be there n constant gun safe alert for rust. We have no stainless rifles, but go thru plenty of de-humidifier.
 
I have done a bit of reasearch, for purpose of making an article on barrels.
There are two basic materials to make barrels: chrome molybden steel and inox (stainless steel).

Inox as general will be type inox 416, martensitic type.
Because of this material structure, it is generally accepted that such type of materials can be best polished and lapped, significantly better then chrom moly. It is also beleived that this highly polished surface of barrel interior reduces fouling of barrel. For this reason, best long range shooters, prefer exclusively stainless steel barrels, deeply beleiving that smoothness of material will give them best consistency in long strings of shots with minimum fouling.

(of course, it goes without saying that stainless is more resiliant to rust, and weather conditions, as well as extreme as extreme spread of temperatures, especially cold)
Howeever even stainless, is not 100% rust proof. Rifle has to be maintained, like any other rifle

Barrels can be made in general in three accepted ways: hammer forging, button rifling and cut rifling.
For stainless steel 416 barrels hammer forging is difficult, so in case that stainless steel barrel is hammer forged, most probably will be type 410. For button rifling, and cut rifling 416 can be. So 410, different material for hammer forging is possibly a compromise, but I am not sure of actual differneces between 416 and 410. It could be also that factories producing hammer forged barrels for their rifle, also import stainless steel barrels from other makers to fit in separate assembly line, if this material makes them difficult to produce by hammer forging.

But....
But, if a good hammer forged chrome moly barrel can produce 1/4 od 1/3 moa groups (with chosen factory ammo) , and if we talk about hunting, i wouldnt be bothered with accuracy issue.

Comapring three types of barrel production: hammer forging, button rifling, and cut rifling:
It is generally beleived (I am not using word proven) that hammer forged barrels will last the longest, and cut rifle barrels will have the shortest longevity. (then button rifled barrel could be in the middle with this estimate). So, in this way you can also look at stainlees steel barrels becasue 416 most probably will not be hammer forged, so if barrel is cut, will hav a bit shorter life span.

(top long range shooters prefer cut rifled barrels, and button rifled barrels, and hunters, genereally dont care)

Additional way to look at it: as mentioned, stainless steel is sweetheart of long range shooters, often using hot loads, and shooting long strings on a match or training in addition to having barrel burning calibers. Of course, such abuse will shorten barrel life significantly. (one barrel per season?) But this is not average rifle usage for hunters.

All in all: if I am resident hunter in Alasca, or frequent hunter in tropical rain forest, or top long range shooter, I would consider having a stainless steel barrel. If I am just hunting, in normal dry or moderately humid conditions, chrome moly will do just fine for me.

Also, one more point: stainless look fancy, especially when is fluted. One more thing to consider, but it has nothing to do with ballistics.

And another point, fitting the iron sights - i dont remember seeing stainless steel barrel with iron sights.
One thing to add to this. 400 series stainless will corrode almost as easy as a 4340 steel. In my world, we don’t consider 416 a true stainless, it cuts very much like mild steel.

Right now, many companies are using whatever material they can find for barrels. Some may be steel, some may be stainless. They will obviously have dedicated stainless models, but over all it’s about availability at the moment. They will coat to keep the finish’s uniform for that specific product.
 
416 barrel steel is free machining stainless (and magnetic), easily cut with high speed tooling, 300 series is the common material used in knives, pots and pans. This site has explanations for the different series and their limitations. Note below the chart 400 series is not recommended for use in marine environments.

 

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