What do you do for a living?

And especially if you are married, do not get divorced.
@Philippe
I agree.
When I divorced my first wife she got the goldmine and I got the shaft.
Now very happily married to my wife if almost 25 years. Even tho she is a non hunter she supports my hunting because I enjoy it and she enjoys the travel and seeing new things.
Bob
 
Grew up basically looking at this book my entire life with my father, on the positive side. Never really knew how good my father did. He always wore Walmart Henley's, Wrangler jeans, and Topsiders he got on sale or Walmart work boots. Always was rough about shelling out cash to us as kids. Never heard him and my mother talk about debt. We had a boat and did 90% of the work on it ourselves. Same with the house.

He put the money where it mattered: Our education and upbringing. I still worked two jobs from the time I was 19 until about 24-25 but we knew the value of hard work.

My father was never a great teacher, still isn't. He did give me a few good nuggets and one of them was: "Don't get yourself in debt." We have a mortgage, car lease, and that's about it. CC's are paid in full the end of every month. Debt is the enemy of the wealth.

Now there are exceptions. Working in wealth management there is debt arbitrage, debt strategies, etc. All on the business side. However, unless you're operating in a higher-league, most of it doesn't make sense.

Borrowing money or wasting money on lifestyle is one of the top problems I see in today's world. It's all social media driven. People see the families with the nice house, nice car, etc. They think it's paradise and they need to get there. Meanwhile, behind the scenes, they are house poor, have a $1,000 in the bank, and have a ton of unsecured debt.

The issue, in my life and my line of work, is I'm surrounded by folks who are in a whole other echelon. Triple digit millions net-worth. For them, a splurge item might be a $250,000 car. Very tough to not fall into the comparison game.

I basically live my life the same as my father. I wear Marshall's clothes, Levi's, drive a Mazda Cx50 (my wife drive's a Tahoe, to be fair), etc. The stuff that matters to me is my family, our health, and having a safety net-fund for emergencies.
@HookMeUpII
My wife and I live simply, don't drive expensive cars or have a big flash house.
But
We are pretty well debt free, own our own home and happy. We are doing an around the world trip this year with some of our savings.
We prefer to live humbly and enjoy life rather than trying to impress people and be in debt.
Work hard, live within your means, and save and don't give a shit about what others think.
People ask how can you afford so many holidays, simple answer. We don't try and keep up with the Jones and save for what we want until we can afford it.
Bob
 
I grew up looking between the ears of a cow horse, and building saddles. I went to packing mules for outfitters and the U.S. Government while building saddles on the side. I have been in law enforcement/ Saddle Maker for the last 10 years or so. I learned how fragile life is early on in my law enforcement career. I booked my first hunt in Africa shortly after I started in law enforcement. I have been living life ever since.
@CM McKenzie - if you live in Wyoming - that’s the State that I envy the most.
I’ve made 5 hunts out there (Douglas, Gillette) and loved each one. Also stayed at “Triangle X” dude Ranch in Jackson Hole in the 1980s….every time I left my thought was “wish I could live here”. But, while I love to ride a horse - I’m not good enough to make a living on one and there’s little else I could do in Wyoming to make enough money to live on. The people I met in Wyoming were also very nice.
 
I am licensed as a mental health counselor. I have been an administrator at a home for abused children for the past 25 years. I also have a private practice that I maintain a case load of patients at.

I’ve been investing for retirement since my first job at 18 years old, I’m 52 now. I’ve done pretty well with that and some real estate deals as well. I drive 2003 pickup, only debt I carry is my home mortgage, which is locked in at 3%, and a note on 130 acres I bought in 2021 as an investment and a place to hunt, trap and fish on. I have been able to hunt all over NA and will be heading to Namibia this August for my 7th African safari and I’m already booked for #8 in 2027. Both of my daughters went to a private Christian school through high school, I didn’t travel to hunt much during those years.

The best advise I can give is to prioritize what is most important to you and focus on making those goals a reality and don’t spend on things that get you further away from those goals. I’d much rather take good care of my truck and not have to buy a new one and use that money towards a hunt.

Also, if you like hunting and fishing like it seems like you do, save up and buy yourself some land that you can do that on. There is something extra special about having your own piece of dirt to do on as you please. They ain’t making any more land and for the most part it is never going to be cheaper than it is right now. Same with international hunts, for the most part, they are never going to get cheaper. So, if it’s important to you go as soon as you can and go as often as you can because you never know when you might not be able to go or the place you want to hunt or the animal you want to hunt might no longer be a viable option.
@Fatback - I agree with you on “buy your own land”. If you are a Hunter, no matter what you hunt, you will enjoy the “freedom” of owning your own land. It is worth saving for and even doing without other ‘short term luxuries’ like a New Car etc..
I was 53 before I finally was able to purchase mine - well after buying our primary home & putting aside the $$ for kids college (that had to come First). Only then could we feel comfortable buying land in a fairly remote area of the Adirondacks NY (some of the lowest priced land per acre in the U.S. along with Maine). It was good hunting land but Not the best…BUT it was ALL OURS and that made it GREAT. When you shoot a 120” Buck on your own land - it becomes a 180” TROPHY as soon as it hits the ground ! Almost any animal I’ve ever taken on my Land means more to me then trophies taken on guided hunts.
Maybe the best thing about owning your own Land is you will never get ‘kicked off’ or lose it like a “Lease” or somewhere you have “permission” to hunt —- that can all (and usually does) END at some point.
 
Those extremely high interest rates in the 80s sure made a difference! The average monthly mortgage payment in 1980 was about 44% of median monthly household income. In 2024 that percentage was 33%. It’s still expensive to get into the home ownership game, but not more so than in 1980. Interest rates aren’t going down anytime soon. In fact, with us boomers pulling our money out of higher velocity investments to seek security, money is only going to get more expensive.

My advice to young people is it save and invest until you can afford 20% down on a reasonably priced home. Then, work like hell to pay it off as soon as you can. You’ll be glad you did.

Very similar situation right now. I can't pull a metric on housing interest payment v. household income but I would dare say it's a similar situation now. Back then, rates were the factor. Now, home values and rates to a lesser extent, are the factor.

I just ran:

$1,000,000 home with 20% down at 6.75% interest 30 year mortgage
$750,000 home with 20% down at 6.75% interest 30 year mortgage

You're looking at $1,000,000 in interest over the life of the loan on the $1,000,000 home vs. $550,000 in interest on the $750,000 home over the life of the loan. That's major difference.

There is, in no doubt in my mind, many homes are priced 20-30% over where they should be at the moment.
 
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