Warning on new Leupold scopes

[JimP]

Why would a child have access to your gun? Most of us don’t buy scopes and just have them lying on the coffee table to watch the TV, we mount them on firearms.

It isn't the idea that a child would have access to a firearm with a scope that requires batteries.

The regulation is for items all across the board that have these batteries, scopes just happen to be one of the items that has batteries and requires a "child safe" cap.

 

[ftrovato]

It isn't the idea that a child would have access to a firearm with a scope that requires batteries.

The regulation is for items all across the board that have these batteries, scopes just happen to be one of the items that has batteries and requires a "child safe" cap.

Stop making a point with common sense Jim!

;-)

 

[JimP]

Stop making a point with common sense Jim!

;-)

You mean that this isn't just a rant about Leupold and the new caps that they put on their electronic scopes?

 

[HankBuck]

Stop making a point with common sense Jim!

;-)

@ftrovato @JimP - the term “Common sense” sounds familiar and isn’t that used often by every advocate for more Gun Control ? “Common Sense Gun Control”? Right along with “If it saves One Life-it’s worth it” …It seems to be a catch all phrase when statistics don’t support the Law or regulation being proposed. The one in a 100,000 0r 1/1 Million incident that suddenly needs a new regulation for the remaking 340 million to follow. I don’t agree (as you can tell).

 

[ftrovato]

@ftrovato @JimP - the term “Common sense” sounds familiar and isn’t that used often by every advocate for more Gun Control ? “Common Sense Gun Control”? Right along with “If it saves One Life-it’s worth it” …It seems to be a catch all phrase when statistics don’t support the Law or regulation being proposed. The one in a 100,000 0r 1/1 Million incident that suddenly needs a new regulation for the remaking 340 million to follow. I don’t agree (as you can tell).

Respectfully, I'm not advocating for gun control Hank.

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[Sideshow]

What’s the choking risk to same child if the tool isn’t secured? Geez

Bloody hell don’t give them anymore ideas

 

[HankBuck]

Respectfully, I'm not advocating for gun control Hank.

In the United States, more than 3,500 children visit the emergency room annually after swallowing button batteries. These batteries, found in everyday items like toys and electronics, pose a serious threat as they can cause severe internal damage, even leading to death, within hours of being swallowed.
Key points about button battery ingestion in children:

• Increasing danger:
  The number of children swallowing button batteries and requiring emergency room visits has been increasing.
• Rapid damage:
  If a child swallows a button battery, especially a coin-sized lithium one, saliva can trigger a chemical reaction that causes burns and tissue damage, even in a matter of hours.
• Silent danger:
  Symptoms of ingestion can be vague and easily mistaken for other illnesses, making it crucial to be vigilant and seek immediate medical attention if there's any suspicion of ingestion.
• Age vulnerability:
  Children under six are at higher risk due to their tendency to explore with their mouths and their inability to communicate potential problems.
• Prevention is key:
  Parents and caregivers should be aware of the dangers and take precautions, such as securing battery compartments and keeping devices with button batteries out of reach of children.
• The Dangers of Children Swallowing Button Batteries
  Each year, more than 3,500 swallowing cases of all sizes and types of button batteries are reported to U.S. poison control centers...
  UCSF Benioff Children's Hospitals
• Did Your Child Swallow a Foreign Object? Here's What to Do
  Apr 30, 2024 — The risk of swallowed button batteries. More than 3,500 button battery ingestions are reported to the National Poison ...
  Children's Hospital Colorado
• New Study Finds Battery-Related Injuries in Children More ...
  Aug 29, 2022 — This study, which analyzed data from 2010 through 2019, revealed that every 75 minutes in the United States a child un...
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@ftrovato - I do Not dispute your data and agree that these batteries have been harmful to small children. I only disagree with the requirement to require them to be somehow locked on a rifle scope - which would seem to be the “least likely” place a Child would find and ingest one of these batteries. But I will yield to your sincere efforts to prevent possible harm to children

 

[Tally-Ho HUNTING SAFARIS]

A new battery will last months at least
I doubt your trip to africa is that long

 

[ftrovato]

A new battery will last months at least
I doubt your trip to africa is that long

To roll the clock back and be able to go on an Old World Safari for a month or more is a dream to end all dreams!

 

[Rafiki]

OK, this thread got way off track and I (at least) still don't know the answer about the the caps on the new Leupold Firedot scopes; do they or don't they have "child proof" caps (if there is such a thing). My Leupold VX6HD that is less than a year old does not. I "did the Google" for the manual and it didn't mention such a thing so I remain a bit perplexed by the original intent of the post. Maybe the OP could clarify.

Full disclosure: I didn't read all 8 pages of this parenting thread so it may be explained somewhere in here.

 

[Andrew NOLA]

Please look at post #27 with pictures. The issue is in 2025 released scopes.

Honestly never thought this would get to 8 pages long.

 

[Rafiki]

Please look at post #27 with pictures. The issue is in 2025 released scopes.

Honestly never thought this would get to 8 pages long.

Ok, thanks. Nice engineering for a non-existent problem.

 

[Andrew NOLA]

Soooo I called Leupold since they never replied to my email. Gave them some feedback on why I was unhappy and that I thought they should re-engineer their solution to more like a child proof pill bottle idea that does not require a special tool yet keeps kids out of drug bottles. Those tops also flip over to avoid the child proof part in case it is a non concern - I would applaud Leupold if they were able to do something along those lines to let us determine our own destinies.

I will admit that some Darwin does cross my mind on this, but the premise that children should be kept from harm is valid. I just disagree with Leupold's execution of that.

They are sending me some extra "tools" so I can have at least one everywhere I am. I will keep one in each rifle case with spare batteries for each rifle I bring with me.

I will have some at home, one in each rifle case and some at my camp so I should never have to go caveman to change a battery on these relatively expensive scopes. Hopefully some enterprising soul will 3-D print some non child proof caps for these.

 

[spiska]

I guess we need to put child proof locks on coin purses. My mom used to find change in my little sister's diaper all the time. She didn't seem to have trouble passing a nickel.

Not minimizing children choking. But a toddler's choices for small objects to swallow is pretty much limitless. A lock on toys makes sense. Not so much on optics for firearms IMO.

 

[JimP]

I guess we need to put child proof locks on coin purses. My mom used to find change in my little sister's diaper all the time. She didn't seem to have trouble passing a nickel.

Not minimizing children choking. But a toddler's choices for small objects to swallow is pretty much limitless. A lock on toys makes sense. Not so much on optics for firearms IMO.

Don't let the Consumer Product Safety folks hear you say this.

 

[spiska]

Don't let the Consumer Product Safety folks hear you say this.

I realized the government was full of idiots when I went to Disneyland and there were signs posted at the entrance warning me that Disneyland contains chemicals that cause cancer.