Upgrade Trigger or leave as is?

[WAB]

I am a trigger junkie, I would go with the trigger tech trigger.

 

[Safari Dave]

I've had gunsmiths do a "trigger job" on several Remington 700's and they have always been fine.

I've never replaced a trigger on a 700. Every time, a "trigger job" on a Model 700 has worked out fine for me.



Before you go to your gunsmith, determine what you want for weight for a trigger pull.

2 pounds might be fine off a benchrest, but, IMO, about 4 pounds with no "creep" is what you want in a hunting rifle.

 

[Luvthunt]

I do not trust Remington triggers, sad comment as I bought my first Rem in 1952 ,a 722 in 222 Rem. and triggers in those days were sound but as time and progress evolved Rem quality (imo) began to fail. I began to replace triggers with either Jewel or Timney. Never regretted it.

 

[mdwest]

The old Rem 700 triggers did have some issues.. I might consider having a gunsmith take a look at it just to make sure the one you have is "safe" and you're not going to have problems with it moving forward.. my guess is a 375 700 likely doesn't have a lot of rounds through it (yet) and hasn't really been put to the test..

That said, if it is found to be a safe/good trigger.. I'd keep it.. when tuned properly the 700 trigger can be very nice.. no creep, no overtravel, and a very clean icicle type break..

Worst case scenario, if you cant get it shooting like you like, dropping in a trigger tech is super easy (don't need a gunsmith for that), and they are super easy to tune if you don't like how it comes from the factory..

but buying a new trigger would be plan "b" for me.. not plan A.

 

[JG26Irish_2]

I might piss of a few guys with my comments but here goes. I do not like a super light trigger on any hunting rifle. I am a former national champion benchrest rifle shooter. Most of my fellow competitors use triggers on their match rifles that break at about 2oz. If you breath on them, they go off. That is not my approach. While a light crisp trigger can improve your groups, I think they also mask bad shooter fundamentals. And if you get used to those 2 ounce triggers at the range, your hunting rifles will feel very heavy.

I won that Natl title using an old Remington with a factory stock trigger that was at least 1.5 lbs but was crisp. As long as your Remington does not have one of those past defective triggers, and as long as it is reasonably free of creep, I would not replace it. I do have one Remington that came with the faulty trigger and I replaced it with a Timney Calvin Elite but left it adjusted to just under 1lb. It is a bench rifle and not used for hunting. It is boarderline too light for me. I have one other bench rifle a custom Winchester 52 with a modified micro motion trigger that is set to a few ounces. I actually adjusted it for a bit more sear engagement so it was not prone to fall on thje bolt closing. This one is really too light for my use but I left it as is since it is a match only rifle. I bought it from a former national champ who likes feather light triggers. To each his own.

My safari rifles have nice crisp, safe triggers that break at about 2-3lbs or a bit more. Since that is what I am used to on most of my rifles, that is not an issue. I recently shot a friend's 458WM CZ550 at the range a few times. I thought the factory trigger was pretty good. Then he showed me the set trigger function, lol. That made it much lighter but for my needs it was not necessary.

 

[KIH]

This is the best easy option.

The absolute best fix is to add a Winchester M70 style 3 position safety, which most any competent gunsmith can do relatively easily.

As i understand, The triggertech use the "lever" holding the remington 700 firing pin back, and lock it in its position = just as safe as win M70 + locks the triggertech internals also in place = a upgrade to standard remington 700 triggers equal to M70 safety but better to switch safety off.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

I’ve had hunting rifles with 1# triggers and hunting rifles with 4# triggers.

It depends on where and what you’re hunting. 4# is not unreasonable on a DG rifle in my opinion. 1# on a long range rifle is not unreasonable.

@Neophyte
The triggers in ALL my rifles are set at 2#.
That maybe to light for some and to heavy for others but I find it a good compromise that I am comfortable with
If anyone else uses them they are warned that it a LIGHT TRIGGER and they dry fire fist to try it
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

I prefer Timney Triggers, for hunting they are hard to beat. Being a family owned USA company plus their exceptional customer service, wins my business.

Timney Triggers

Best replacement triggers available

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@CamoManJ
Love my Timney all adjusted to 2#
Crisp, no over travel.
Bob

 

[fourfive8]

The major issue with the older Rem 700 “boxed” trigger was that it was fully adjustable. That means idiots were able to jack around with it. Invariably most screwed with the over-travel adjustment. Then with slightest movement as when the safety was flipped off or the gun’s butt hit the ground, the knife’s edge setting of the trigger’s sear, held there by the over-travel stop, tripped and … oops … unexpected discharge. Of course some “lewyas” jumped on it as a design error instead of operator error. The rest is history.

They are a good trigger but correct adjustment requires someone who is smart enough to understand the engineering design theory of the trigger.

 

[BryceM]

Several times in my life I've taken things that weren't broken and tried to fix them. It works out, sometimes, but I've also had to undo some stuff. If the trigger is horrible, fix it. If you can live with it, find something else to tinker with, but that's just me.

 

[Rule 303]

This is just me. I like all my triggers to be the same weight for let off 3 or 3 and a bit Lbs. Having been raise on old SMLE's and Model 94's I am use to and actually prefer the two stage trigger pull. It feels more natural.

 

[HankBuck]

I finally have a rifle in .375 H&H. It is a Remington 700 XCR with a H-S Precision stock on it. I bought it used from a guy who said maybe 100 rounds had been shot through it. I estimate it was made in 2020 or thereabouts according to the barrel code.

The trigger on it seems to be decent though I haven't measured the trigger pull weight yet. I have been thinking of upgrading it to a TriggerTech trigger. I know the Remington trigger on it is not the older one that had issues. I guess the question is should I stick with the factory trigger or go for the upgrade right away.

Insofar as scopes go, I have Burris Four X 1.5-6, a US Optics 1-8, and a Steiner Predator 4 2.5-10. All are illuminated with essentially German 4 reticles and all are 30mm. Any suggestions there?

Thanks

@jpr9954 - unless there is something about the “trigger pull” you Don’t like ie: too heavy?, Not crisp?, has ‘creep’? Etc.. I would Not change it — just to change it. Some factory triggers are very good - even if just by “luck”. Measuring the ‘trigger pull weight’ is fine but if it already feels good-to-you and you shoot it well - don’t get too hung up on the weight-of-pull. I’ve shot triggers that broke at 5 lbs (crisp clean break) that felt better then ones that measured 3 lbs with “creep, stacking” etc..
I have one rifle custom made with Jewel trigger that is No better then another custom rifle made that “Kept” the Sako factory trigger. What’s become important to me now is that all my rifle trigger “break crisp” and at approximately the same weight (around 3 lbs.) and factory triggers in my Tikka, Sako, Volquartsen, are all very good & consistent. NOTE: I am Not a “Bench Rest Shooter” and therefore Not a trigger expert….just a hunter that likes a decent trigger.

 

[Rellik]

If you have a 2020 vintage 700 then it was made well after the recall of 2014 and should have a perfectly fine X-Mark Pro trigger ,or X Mark Pro adjustable trigger, as both were used toward the end of the production---pre bankruptcy. If you like it and can shoot it well, I would leave it as is.

 

[Nosler guy]

The major issue with the older Rem 700 “boxed” trigger was that it was fully adjustable. That means idiots were able to jack around with it. Invariably most screwed with the over-travel adjustment. Then with slightest movement as when the safety was flipped off or the gun’s butt hit the ground, the knife’s edge setting of the trigger’s sear, held there by the over-travel stop, tripped and … oops … unexpected discharge. Of course some “lewyas” jumped on it as a design error instead of operator error. The rest is history.

They are a good trigger but correct adjustment requires someone who is smart enough to understand the engineering design theory of the trigger.

Thank you - saved me from trying to put this to words. Good explanation

 

[gbflyer]

Wait for the Geissele Super 700’s to roll back out if you’re going to upgrade. They are getting close. That and a m16 extractor (as long as you aren’t the type of handloader that flirts with disaster) and you have excellent reliability.

 

[Rule 303]

The major issue with the older Rem 700 “boxed” trigger was that it was fully adjustable. That means idiots were able to jack around with it. Invariably most screwed with the over-travel adjustment. Then with slightest movement as when the safety was flipped off or the gun’s butt hit the ground, the knife’s edge setting of the trigger’s sear, held there by the over-travel stop, tripped and … oops … unexpected discharge. Of course some “lewyas” jumped on it as a design error instead of operator error. The rest is history.

They are a good trigger but correct adjustment requires someone who is smart enough to understand the engineering design theory of the trigger.

Thank you for this explanation. This certainly clears up a lot of questions in my mind about that issue.

 

[colorado]

I finally have a rifle in .375 H&H. It is a Remington 700 XCR with a H-S Precision stock on it. I bought it used from a guy who said maybe 100 rounds had been shot through it. I estimate it was made in 2020 or thereabouts according to the barrel code.

The trigger on it seems to be decent though I haven't measured the trigger pull weight yet. I have been thinking of upgrading it to a TriggerTech trigger. I know the Remington trigger on it is not the older one that had issues. I guess the question is should I stick with the factory trigger or go for the upgrade right away.

Insofar as scopes go, I have Burris Four X 1.5-6, a US Optics 1-8, and a Steiner Predator 4 2.5-10. All are illuminated with essentially German 4 reticles and all are 30mm. Any suggestions there?

Thanks

I have the same rifle. The trigger is fine. I set mine to 3 lbs. The corrosion resistant TriNyte finish is amazing. Also the rifle is really light, but the stock soaks up recoil. I know it's not CRF but it worked. I replaced the open sighs with NECG, other than it's good to go. I shot factory ammo w 300g A-Frames, great combination. I got this bear with it at 13 yards.

 

[Milan]

As i understand, The triggertech use the "lever" holding the remington 700 firing pin back, and lock it in its position = just as safe as win M70 + locks the triggertech internals also in place = a upgrade to standard remington 700 triggers equal to M70 safety but better to switch safety off.

I do not think TT triggers lock the firing pin at all. At least not the ones I have and not the ones I see on their web-site for Rem 700.

@jpr9954, Not sure if the XCR is the same as regular 700, but the TriggerTechs should all be better than stock Rem triggers. Also, they can be adjusted up to 4 pounds, model depending. I don't mind running at 1.5-2 lbs on my hunting rifles. As long as it does not go off when dropped hard or when I stick my gloved finger in the trigger guard, it's OK. This is why I like big trigger guards on my rifles also. If I run heavier pull it's more for the gloved finger feel reason than any other.

The adjustment is easy and fairly consistent. Trigger breaks very nicely. I like the Diamond two-stage triggers, but if you like heavier and single-stage the Primary model is cheap and has the bolt release on it (don't forget that option, unless you have custom bolt release).