Uganda Giant Man-eating Crocodile Of Buvuma Captured After Two Year Hunt

[leslie hetrick]

some one senting in a airconditioned office would have a different out look on the problem, but a familely who loses a child or other relitive would have a very different out look on the problem. and croc,s are a not threatened speices. i say kill the offending croc,s and be done with it.

 

[spike.t]

Whose in an air-conditioned office ....

 

[leslie hetrick]

i said no names, so if you are not, fine and if you are fine. a lot of things come from the top who don,t relate to the local problems.

 

[spike.t]

i said no names, so if you are not, fine and if you are fine. a lot of things come from the top who don,t relate to the local problems.

Mmm....well I am where it happens on a regular basis....so

 

[PeteG]

People should remember that a crocodile that has eaten man is not necessary a man eater in the same context as say man eating tigers or lions that go out of their way to specifically target people.

Crocs seldom target people as a primary food source. It is usually a target of opportunity.
That is the mistake many make, myself too, in the past have shot “man eaters”. As I get older and see more and understand more of their habits.
They are opportunistic and supremely adaptable.
this means that a “man eater” can be relocated to a place with other food sources and it will adapt quickly to that. It is not likely to go out if it’s way and expend unnecessary energy to find and target people if there are fish and wildlife more readily available.

the numbers of crocs are dwindling heavily in areas where human populations are growing because of the danger factor.
I’m currently building a crocodile cage to trap and relocate crocs from built up/village areas to more remote areas for precisely this reason.

I have seen people swimming and collecting water on the shore of lake Tanganyika in the exact place a child was taken just days earlier less than 500m from my place, all the while asking me to shoot ANY croc I see.
we supply free borehole water to any villager that needs and built a footbridge over the stream leading to the main village for precisely the reason to limit encounters rather than shoot more of a dwindling resource.
And in some rural areas, wildife attacks are as much a part and risk of daily life to them as a potential car crash or burglary etc is a part of life in urban/1st world countries.

 

[Tucketed]

I wonder if the word capture in the article is just woke for shooting it.

 

[CJW]

I have seen people swimming and collecting water on the shore of lake Tanganyika in the exact place a child was taken just days earlier less than 500m from my place, all the while asking me to shoot ANY croc I see.

I recall a story of someone watching a woman doing laundry in the exact spot her sister was grabbed by a croc just days prior. My sympathy only goes so far. The crocs are doing what comes naturally. The people are choosing a Darwin award.

 

[flatwater bill]

@PeteG. @spike.t : That is a good point that I hadn't thought of.......not in the same category as a man eating leopard or tiger......FWB

 

[spike.t]

I recall a story of someone watching a woman doing laundry in the exact spot her sister was grabbed by a croc just days prior. My sympathy only goes so far. The crocs are doing what comes naturally. The people are choosing a Darwin award.

It's not so much a Darwin award....as a mind set that is.... not sure how to put it....basically not thinking of the future just now.....not too much forward/future thinking goes on.....as I said in the man eater thread we have had at least 5 taken out of canoes in approximately one kilometre of river in front of our building this year....so plenty more up and down river.....mostly fishermen at night...its illegal to net at night....so I call the crocs our maritime anti poaching patrols....as we know of at least 2 big name poachers taken by them at night over last couple of years....so yeah it might seem terrible...but as Pete said its how it is in bush village life near water with crocs.....so yeah different mind set we have I presume....and I aint going to be shooting crocs left right and centre....because which one ate the person....so to you people living out there in your air-conditioned offices...Houses with electricity...running water...etc etc etc ....try thinking outside of your little box

 

[leslie hetrick]

oh well, at least they have lots of food. i myself would be more vengfull towards any thing that gobbled up my relitives, croc,s-cats-bears.

 

[spike.t]

oh well, at least they have lots of food. i myself would be more vengfull towards any thing that gobbled up my relitives, croc,s-cats-bears.

Just as well you there then....as lot of animals/reptiles would be killed for no reason....how about the gaboon viper that killed a kid in village over from us....please tell what you going to do you really think in a simplified manner ...as you said people who sit in comfort over there really haven't a clue...

 

[Inline6]

Just as well you there then....as lot of animals/reptiles would be killed for no reason....how about the gaboon viper that killed a kid in village over from us....please tell what you going to do you really think in a simplified manner ...as you said people who sit in comfort over there really haven't a clue...

It's not just there, it is every where. For whatever reason people have forgotten what a SME is and the benefits of said person. When you have someone one of wealth making laws that affect people of proverty you get the same type of results. Which is a bunch of word and no true solutions.

 

[CJW]

It's not so much a Darwin award....as a mind set that is.... not sure how to put it....basically not thinking of the future just now.....not too much forward/future thinking goes on.....as I said in the man eater thread we have had at least 5 taken out of canoes in approximately one kilometre of river in front of our building this year....so plenty more up and down river.....mostly fishermen at night...its illegal to net at night....so I call the crocs our maritime anti poaching patrols....as we know of at least 2 big name poachers taken by them at night over last couple of years....so yeah it might seem terrible...but as Pete said its how it is in bush village life near water with crocs.....so yeah different mind set we have I presume....and I aint going to be shooting crocs left right and centre....because which one ate the person....so to you people living out there in your air-conditioned offices...Houses with electricity...running water...etc etc etc ....try thinking outside of your little box

Well that mindset is Darwinism in action. I would also describe it as pure, unadulterated, generational complacency and laziness. Bush village life doesn't need to include offering yourself up as an hors d'oeuvres. But if that's what they choose then so be it. I just wish the kids weren't the victims of it. Unfortunately, they are just a link in the chain. Like you said, most of Africa is a different mindset.

I'm also not sure what living in an air conditioned house with running water over here has to do with it as plenty of your local simple thinking villagers would agree with leslie. Actually most would be more vengeful as Pete pointed out. I could live in a cardboard box and realize that sitting at the edge of croc infested waters is a bad idea. Personally, I don't think the crocs deserve to die because of such actions. They're simple minds and eat what is handy at the edge of their domain. Don't be the thing that is handy.

 

[spike.t]

Well that mindset is Darwinism in action. I would also describe it as pure, unadulterated, generational complacency and laziness. Bush village life doesn't need to include offering yourself up as an hors d'oeuvres. But if that's what they choose then so be it. I just wish the kids weren't the victims of it. Unfortunately, they are just a link in the chain. Like you said, most of Africa is a different mindset.

I'm also not sure what living in an air conditioned house with running water over here has to do with it as plenty of your local simple thinking villagers would agree with leslie. Actually most would be more vengeful as Pete pointed out. I could live in a cardboard box and realize that sitting at the edge of croc infested waters is a bad idea. Personally, I don't think the crocs deserve to die because of such actions. They're simple minds and eat what is handy at the edge of their domain. Don't be the thing that is handy.

You missed the point....the mind set is different that's it....hard to explain to people who don't experience it....they will go fish in the river with mutual (charms/witchcraft) obtained from the local witchdoctor...or possibly these days to be correct...the indigenous purveyor of traditional medicine....but if they don't get taken it works....obviously that is quite often...but if it doesn't and they get taken....then they did something that made their muti not work and broke the spell....so win win for the local doc....as I said different....and the air-conditioning etc I said....take it or leave it....Will leave it to all you experts over there ....and as for agreeing with him about the effect on the families....probably lasts a few days at most....as I said different here ......

 

[geoff rath]

i said no names, so if you are not, fine and if you are fine. a lot of things come from the top who don,t relate to the local problems.

that's fine by me ...

 

[leslie hetrick]

well i,m not a local, but i have been there six times hunting. last trip was in 2019 and i managed to keep from getting bitten or chewed on by being carefull about where i put my fat ass.

 

[IvW]

That is a fat croc......

 

[Flewis]

You missed the point....the mind set is different that's it....hard to explain to people who don't experience it....they will go fish in the river with mutual (charms/witchcraft) obtained from the local witchdoctor...or possibly these days to be correct...the indigenous purveyor of traditional medicine....but if they don't get taken it works....obviously that is quite often...but if it doesn't and they get taken....then they did something that made their muti not work and broke the spell....so win win for the local doc....as I said different....and the air-conditioning etc I said....take it or leave it....Will leave it to all you experts over there ....and as for agreeing with him about the effect on the families....probably lasts a few days at most....as I said different here ......

I think the meddling of the world has caused Africa enough trouble for the last 40 or 50 years. And probably the left in the us the most. If you don’t know what the hell you’re doing don’t do it!

 

[Tokoloshe Safaris]

Trapping a particular croc can have a much more successful outcome than hunting especially if the croc has been hunted as this one has.
What they do with now that is up to them.

 

[geoff rath]

Trapping a particular croc can have a much more successful outcome than hunting especially if the croc has been hunted as this one has.
What they do with now that is up to them.

"Problem" crocs are routinely trapped in Australia; passed on to various "wildlife parks". As written earlier, croc skins for tanning, clothing, luggage almost always come from smaller lizards. Have a few mates in the N T and Queensland into the trade...