"THE EMPEROR" .375 H&H Magnum

[Hank2211]

How many times have you had to take a shot at over 200yds, i'm guessing not that many, groom the 375 to shoot 235GRs, I get 2610fps shooting 300grs so you should get a lot better, so now you sell the 404Jeff to me and use the 375 and the 416,It's a win win, you get to use the 300 win for Antelope out west I get the 404 Jeff,,were both happy

I know people say that most shots are less than 200 yards, and that's more or less true, but I've been going out to about 300, with the odd shot a bit beyond that. I like the flat shooting .300 for those!

As for selling you the .404, well, I'd really like to, but you see, my name is engraved on the barrel, and the initials are on the grip cap. I know you'd be embarrassed to have someone else's gun, so I guess I'm stuck with it!

 

[CJ007]

Does anyone knows what was the biggest animal ever kill with 235gr from a .375

 

[PHOENIX PHIL]

Does anyone knows what was the biggest animal ever kill with 235gr from a .375

Can't say I do. I looked at the 235gr Barnes, but the 250gr TTSX had such a better BC it wasn't worth the small increase in velocity to go with the lighter bullet. I ended up using a 250gr North Fork which at 2800fps plus, was easily a 300 yard bullet.

The 250gr TTSX I pushed to upward of 2900fps. I'd use either up to and including Eland. For larger DG such as Cape Buff, go with the 300gr bullet.

 

[CJ007]

Thanks for that Phil.

 

[KMG Hunting Safaris]

Does anyone knows what was the biggest animal ever kill with 235gr from a .375

Well, we've taken many Cape Buffalo, firing a 200gr expanding copper bullet out of a .375H&H. The rifle mentioned, is my own, and used by hunters who choose not to bring their own firearm into the country.
What were you planning on using it for?

 

[CJ007]

Thank Marius.
On my next trip to Africa Im planing to take my .375 H&H and only one lot of ammo, instead of 2 rifle and 5 different boxes of ammo. I thought 235gr could do a cape buff and a hippo I would be a much happier hunter

 

[KMG Hunting Safaris]

@CJ007 ,
I know a lot of hunters want to shoot heavy bullets, like the 300gr'ers in the .375. If the 235gr or 250gr Barnes TSX or TTSX work in your rifle, it will do the job and some on Cape Buffalo and Hippo.
It's where you put them, that really matter. We are not talking about the stopping ability here, but the killing ability.( After the 1st shot) On the stopping side, if I only had the .375, I would go with the 300gr, or even the 350gr. But, I take it, this is not what you are asking.
From the 200gr GS Custom out of my .375H&H to a 570gr out of a .505Gibbs, I have not seen the Buff fall quicker from the larger bore. They all go about 70yds, before expiring.
It's when the heat's in the kitchen where the difference will be much more apparent.

Good luck on your hunt. We look forward to the photos.

 

[enysse]

BTW, where is Monish?

Well Monish, left when certain people questioned his copy and pasting of pictures and stories. For a while there he was the top poster on AH. He posted a ton of stuff on AH.

 

[CJ007]

@CJ007 ,
I know a lot of hunters want to shoot heavy bullets, like the 300gr'ers in the .375. If the 235gr or 250gr Barnes TSX or TTSX work in your rifle, it will do the job and some on Cape Buffalo and Hippo.
It's where you put them, that really matter. We are not talking about the stopping ability here, but the killing ability.( After the 1st shot) On the stopping side, if I only had the .375, I would go with the 300gr, or even the 350gr. But, I take it, this is not what you are asking.
From the 200gr GS Custom out of my .375H&H to a 570gr out of a .505Gibbs, I have not seen the Buff fall quicker from the larger bore. They all go about 70yds, before expiring.
It's when the heat's in the kitchen where the difference will be much more apparent.

Good luck on your hunt. We look forward to the photos.[/

 

[CJ007]

Thanks for that info. I posted a few pfotos from my last trip

 

[Rob404]

I know people say that most shots are less than 200 yards, and that's more or less true, but I've been going out to about 300, with the odd shot a bit beyond that. I like the flat shooting .300 for those!

As for selling you the .404, well, I'd really like to, but you see, my name is engraved on the barrel, and the initials are on the grip cap. I know you'd be embarrassed to have someone else's gun, so I guess I'm stuck with it!

That ok I'm Farsighted so I won't notice

 

[gizmo]

I really like my 375. I hope to take a leopard with it one day and will probably shoot a deer or two just because I can with it this year. If I had to do it over again I would have took it to Africa for my lion and buff instead of my 416.

 

[Petrus Geldenhuys]

I truly love the .375 H&H, it is a magical calibre! I must agree that when reloading you should discard your cases after about 3 reloads as they are notorious for head separation due to over stretching of the cases, but this will also depend on rifle manufacturer.

We have taken many Buffalo with the .375 H&H tipped with a 300gr projectile and it has not failed us yet due to the accuracy and mild recoil. In my opinion a really good calibre for an African Safari.

 

[PHOENIX PHIL]

I truly love the .375 H&H, it is a magical calibre! I must agree that when reloading you should discard your cases after about 3 reloads as they are notorious for head separation due to over stretching of the cases, but this will also depend on rifle manufacturer.

We have taken many Buffalo with the .375 H&H tipped with a 300gr projectile and it has not failed us yet due to the accuracy and mild recoil. In my opinion a really good calibre for an African Safari.

When resizing, I only bump the shoulder enough so that the cases will seat properly without undue pressure when closing the bolt. This helps minimize stretch and I know I've got well more than three shots out of my brass. I hope I guess that I'm not setting myself up for a problem, but I let the brass tell me when it's done. I've only seen minor splits and in other cases you can see that the case is getting ready to split, these I obviously throw away.

 

[sierraone]

How many times have you had to take a shot at over 200yds, i'm guessing not that many, groom the 375 to shoot 235GRs, I get 2610fps shooting 300grs so you should get a lot better, so now you sell the 404Jeff to me and use the 375 and the 416,It's a win win, you get to use the 300 win for Antelope out west I get the 404 Jeff,,were both happy

I like the way you think!!!

 

[sierraone]

To own only one hunting rifle (I hope that never happens!) it would be a .375 H&H.

 

[Hank2211]

I like the way you think!!!

Let's not get carried away here gentlemen! I happen to be a very big fan of my .404. I had it made as a present for myself (I wasn't getting it from anyone else!) at a time when the .404 wasn't as popular (if I can even say that about the .404) as it currently is. This is at least as grand an old cartridge as the .416 Rigby, but while that gun was somewhat "aristocratic," the .404 was far more " pedestrian", which means way less expensive (at the time). And since I like to think I'm pretty much in the middle, it seemed to me I should have both!

You're not going to be able to pry it out of my hands!

Now stop hijacking this thread by threatening to take my beautiful rifle from me!

 

[sierraone]

I know people say that most shots are less than 200 yards, and that's more or less true, but I've been going out to about 300, with the odd shot a bit beyond that. I like the flat shooting .300 for those!

As for selling you the .404, well, I'd really like to, but you see, my name is engraved on the barrel, and the initials are on the grip cap. I know you'd be embarrassed to have someone else's gun, so I guess I'm stuck with it!

If the price is right, I could live with the embarrassment!

 

[Witold Krzyżanowski]

Very good Article Monish.
I think that cal. 9,3x62 was the inspiration for the English 375H&H, which eventualy repleced the 9,3.
Personally, I prefer 9,3x62 due to better penetration of the bullet and less recoil.
All the best .
Witold

 

[Rob404]

To own only one hunting rifle (I hope that never happens!) it would be a .375 H&H.

I like the way you think also