The Bastardization Of The Term Dagga Boy

[Muting the Goat]

I agree with what you wrote but I don’t see the harm. It’s a buffalo bull. It’s up to the hunter to tell the PH the type of bull he’s looking for. I also think many have an unrealistic ideal in their mind for many areas. I think the more African hunting one does the more the definition of dagga boy gets refined for each hunter.

I think there is harm when a client tells the outfitter/PH they want to shoot a specific type/class of animal - whether it be a 30" mule deer or a dagga boy - and after killing an animal that doesn't meet those standards - the client is told they do meet the standard. In the example of a 30" mule deer, it's easy to measure the antlers and know if it truly is as big as the client was told. But a subjective term like dagga boy is easier to be abused by unscrupulous outfitters/PHs.

 

[Muting the Goat]

Please take note that the correct Zulu word is DAGHA.
Dagga refers to Cannabis, and there is no word like Dugha.

Dagga/Dugga/Dagha - It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world!

 

[Muting the Goat]

Very interesting topic and discussion but it seems as though we’ve cleared up approximately nothing. I’ve not shot a Bull yet myself, but maybe on my next trip I’ll try to get close enough to tell if any bulls spotted are proper Dagga Boys or not.

Just to be clear, the tags in their ears don’t tell me anything definitive right? I was thinking that maybe they were color coded or something.

(Before anyone blows a gasket, that was my version of sarcasm, if your blood pressure started to come up, you might consider another swallow of whatever you are currently consuming.)

In reality, we didn't clear anything up!

 

[Altitude sickness]

Sounds like a good enterprise for an up-and-coming wildlife biologist.

collar some bulls of various ages and check their patterns. of course like a migratory birds and a band. they could be shot but put enough out and that won’t be an issue.

Look at the old Bulls shot in Mozambique swamp units. Huge herds.
I think the herd or loaner criteria is the least accurate

 

[Muting the Goat]

Sounds like a good enterprise for an up-and-coming wildlife biologist.

collar some bulls of various ages and check their patterns. of course like a migratory birds and a band. they could be shot but put enough out and that won’t be an issue.

Look at the old Bulls shot in Mozambique swamp units. Huge herds.
I think the herd or loaner criteria is the least accurate

The term dagga boy originated in Zimbabwe, so perhaps its use is only applicable in that region. I know my friends in South Carolina call freshwater turtles "cooters" - and that's not how we use the term in Arizona!

 

[Rafiki]

I would think that most would call this an example of a "Dagga Boy" (the buffalo not me). This old fellow was taken in TZ last October. We caught up to him at the bottom of a "jungle" covered ravine after many hours of tracking. He had no hair to speak of, scarred face and hide, worn boss and tips and on inspection extremely worn teeth. My PH estimated that he was about 15-years old. Old and tired as he was it was one of the most exhilarating experiences of my life.

 

[DieJager]

I have yet to hunt them but what if I shoot a young bull that identifies as a dagga boy?

Changes are that you shot a bull that is a left winger, probably goes to the girls bathroom and fancies other bulls.

You can easily spot them because they wear pink hats.

 

[Muting the Goat]

I would think that most would call this an example of a "Dagga Boy" (the buffalo not me). This old fellow was taken in TZ last October. We caught up to him at the bottom of a "jungle" covered ravine after many hours of tracking. He had no hair to speak of, scarred face and hide, worn boss and tips and on inspection extremely worn teeth. My PH estimated that he was about 15-years old. Old and tired as he was it was one of the most exhilarating experiences of my life.


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I agree - this is what I consider a dagga boy, and I think most people would agree. Congratulations, that's a great bull! Imagine the battles he's been in with lions, hyenas, and other bulls. What a warrior. And don't discount yourself - you might qualify for dagga boy status!

 

[Andrew62]

Seriously, I do see a few splotches of mud. But the point is there are some definitions that do not always apply. So maybe we say 6 of the 8 criteria need to be present. For instance Old bulls do not ALWAYS stay separated from the herds.

And some very old worn down horns are found in herds.

But calling my first bull approximately an 8 yr old a Dugga Boy would be silly.

It won’t matter soon as Dugga Boy is being replaced by. “ post breeding age bull” as the new requirement that all Buffalo hunters must follow to be accepted

You're cracking me up on these posts today, lol, you should consider changing your name to "Butter", because you're on a roll!!! lol

 

[grand veneur]

I have now read this definition several times in various articles and it was also until now for me the definition of a Dagga-boy.

‘Dagga boys’ is a term used to describe old and usually solitary buffalo bulls who have been forced out of the herd by young virile bulls, or have fallen behind the herd due to their need for softer vegetation.