SOUTH AFRICA: TANZANIA: Safari 2023 Spiral Slam, Black Death, & Mr. Spots

Safe travels HH, looking forward to the reports.
 
We are doing a safari in 2024. While we have been 2 other times never thru London. Flights look promising via LHR (London) but I am concerned about difficulities. Did you use a travel agent or book this yourself? Can you say you would recommend this flight option to others? I am not familiar with the firearms process via British Airlines.
Thank you.
I used Jennifer @TRAVEL EXPRESS + booked on my own. She was VERY hesitant to book then her flight prices were way higher than what I locked it in for as a 24 hour hold. I also only booked 4-5 weeks out from my hunt because of some last minute changes.

I booked the British Flights there on my own through American Airlines, on flights that were operated the entire way by British Airlines. Reason for this; I was able to book it myself for more several hundred dollars cheaper. Additionally I fly a lot with American and have Executive Platinum status. I also get a couple of system wide upgrades each year to use on any flight (multiple legs). They work with BA but not Qatar. In order for me to use the upgrades I needed to be booked through American and not British. I was also told a travel agent couldn’t use the upgrades for me by the EP Concierge when I was calling about availability. Result was being able to book RT basic economy for $1060, use 2 of my system wide upgrades (free) and spend 2 legs in Business Class, and 2 legs in Premium Economy w/ Emergency Row, bulkhead seats, with a full row to myself on 1 leg. I also used Mr X/Afton on the gun permit.

I had a couple issues some were BA others weren’t

1st my departure flight delayed into the following day. BA’s computers delisted a lot of passengers from the manifest on leg 1 Hou-Lhr. There were a bunch of other people this happened too. Most had booked through AA but some had booked through BA. It appeared like it happened to anyone in Premium Economy and Business but didn’t impact 1st Class or Economy. Because of this it removed my weapons permit approval. The girl at the check-in counter had never done a weapons permit which complicated it but she was super nice and genuinely interested in hunting in Africa. Took a few hours to clear up (she was working 3 groups at once), mostly because the phone lines were busy with all the delays. Being 4 hours early + on a 8hour delay the 2 hour check-in wasn’t an issue. Even without a delay I still would’ve had plenty of time in the lounge. BA also kept the lounge open until the flight departed well past posted closing time.

2nd was no fault of BA, TSA kept flagging my case during the sniffer/wipe screening. I think they had to bring in 4 total TSA agents of different levels, on-top of the initial agent (1 was in a suit with an earpiece) who watched them completely unpack my case, take everything out of it, scan each piece of foam separately, completely unfold all my clothes patting them all down and testing them before clearing it it to fly. Very different from 2 years before when this same gate managed to miss a live and expended round in my carry-on bino harness during a Qatar flight.

3rd was on my SAPS permit. RSA didn’t list my serial number on one rifle and listed the caliber of it wrong. I had a copy of my original submission, and 4457. Mr X cleared it up in 5 minutes since it was on RSA.

4th was on my return flight. I wasn’t approved for the firearms. I showed them the paperwork from the original flight, they had a little trouble (10min) but it was resolved quickly after producing my form from the initial flight.

I also had an issue on the AirLink flight at JNB where they said I wasn’t approved for a Firearm. Mr X had that sorted in 5 min.

Overall - If flights were the same price and I was traveling with weapons BA wouldn’t be my first choice but I’d fly it again. If I had booked earlier I’d use miles to book business on Qatar (nothing was available for purchase with miles when I booked on any airline). Qatars taxes and fees on a miles booking are WAY less than BA.
 
Was that formerly TWG?

Patrick split off from them and opened his own shop. Since he always took care of me over there I stayed with him and it’s been great.

HH
 
Bullet soft solid breakdown

I’ve been going back-and-forth with what I think the proper breakdown of softs to solids is for this hunt. I have decided on the following:
300 win mag - 50 200 grn Hornady eldx
375 H&H - 15 300 grn Swift a-frames
5 300 grn Swift Break a way solid
458 Lott - 25 500 grn Trophy bonded bear claw
5 500 grn Trophy Bonded Sledgehammer Solid

Thoughts?

HH
Good mix. 5 solids for each should be enough. You’ll probably bring most of them home. You’re going to love how those TB Bear Claws perform. They’re my favorite bullet for buffalo.
 
British Airways allows 3 bags at 32KG each (per person)and will still charge 250 Dollars/Pounds(Can’t Remember) for the privilege of taking a rifle on their plane.

HH
Pretty much. I just looked at my receipts from May to confirm
Houston - JNB: $156
JNB - Houston: $156

I'm on the phone with American now regarding something else, so I asked

Your weight limit and number of bags is tied to the class of fare (upgrades help).
Economy - 1 Bag @ 23kg (50lbs)
Premium Economy - 2 Bag @ 23kg
Business - 2 Bags @ 32kg (70lbs)
First - 3 Bags @ 32kg

Now if you have status with OneWorld (American, Alaska, and a bunch of others) it changes. I believe you can get 2 bags @ 32kg with Sapphire Status (regardless of if you booked economy or not) and under Emerald you can get 1 additional bag up to 32kg above your fare class.
 
LHR is the last international airport I want to transit on my way to Africa. I’ve flown through London twice with guns, had significant problems both times. There are too many other airports you can transit easily with guns to ever deal with LHR.
I might just have to fork over the $$ for the direct flights to JNB offered by United or Delta.
Thanks.
 
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Bullet soft solid breakdown

I’ve been going back-and-forth with what I think the proper breakdown of softs to solids is for this hunt. I have decided on the following:
300 win mag - 50 200 grn Hornady eldx
375 H&H - 15 300 grn Swift a-frames
5 300 grn Swift Break a way solid
458 Lott - 25 500 grn Trophy bonded bear claw
5 500 grn Trophy Bonded Sledgehammer Solid

Thoughts?

HH
Unless you’re hunting elephant with the Lott, you don’t need solids unless you want them for Tiny 10 antelopes. Solids are not needed for buffalo with a Lott.
 
Please keep me apprised as to how your hunt goes with Christophe. I’m booked to hunt there with him in May of ‘25. I’ll be keenly interested in chatting with you after you return.
I'll do a full report and would be very happy to chat on the phone with you about my experience.
Bruce
 
Looking forward to hearing how it all goes! Best of luck!

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Final picture of 2 Blaser 3 barrel with scopes case configuration.
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Final weight is 52 lbs.

HH
 
Final picture of 2 Blaser 3 barrel with scopes case configuration.
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Final weight is 52 lbs.

HH
Looks great. Another option is to put the scopes in your carryon to reduce gun case weight and any chance of damage to your optics. I’ve done it both ways and both work.
 
British Airways allows 3 bags at 32KG each (per person)and will still charge 250 Dollars/Pounds(Can’t Remember) for the privilege of taking a rifle on their plane.

HH
Wow that’s a new one! Must remember not to fly BA with guns!
BA stands for Bloody Awful
 
Travel update(I HATE BRITISH AIRWAYS)
We arrived at Business Class checkin counter 3 hours before the flight from Las Vegas. I knew we had a problem when I walked up to the agent, and he looked at us like we had four eyes. I informed him that we were traveling to Johannesburg with rifles, and proceeded to show him the documentation for this. After typing in his computer for what was 15 minutes, but seemed like an hour, he informed us that we had never made the request to have weapons on board, and that British Airways requires 48 hour notice. I then proceeded to show him screenshots from British Airways showing our approval as I always have documentation before any trip printed out with me. This did not persuade him one bit. Asked to speak to a supervisor and after about 30 minutes, another lady came over and told me that she could not help me as they have no ability to add the rifles because they do not work for British Airways and are also contracted employees.
4 travelers/hunters all booked with the same travel agent at the same time.
2 permits showed and mine(traveling with the wife and so guns are in my name) unfortunately did not. I tell the other 2 to continue checking in and I would retreat home to figure it out.
At 9:45PM our friends inform us that they finally got checked in after 2 1/2 hours and were on the plane. Problem is that the AirTags on the rifle and bags show that they did not make the flight.
Currently looking at flying with Turkish/Quatar/Emirates out of Los Angeles to get this party started.
Avoid British Airways like the plague…

HH
 
Wow, that seriously sucks. Good luck sorting it out. Did you use a travel agent?
 
Wow, that seriously sucks. Good luck sorting it out. Did you use a travel agent?

Yes I used a travel agent. Same guy I’ve used for over a decade.

HH
 
That’s awful. Sorry to hear that you had such an issue. Hopefully you used your allotment of poor luck with this issue and your time on safari will go off without a hitch while hunting and traveling in Africa. Best of luck getting this sorted.
 
Travel update(I HATE BRITISH AIRWAYS)
We arrived at Business Class checkin counter 3 hours before the flight from Las Vegas. I knew we had a problem when I walked up to the agent, and he looked at us like we had four eyes. I informed him that we were traveling to Johannesburg with rifles, and proceeded to show him the documentation for this. After typing in his computer for what was 15 minutes, but seemed like an hour, he informed us that we had never made the request to have weapons on board, and that British Airways requires 48 hour notice. I then proceeded to show him screenshots from British Airways showing our approval as I always have documentation before any trip printed out with me. This did not persuade him one bit. Asked to speak to a supervisor and after about 30 minutes, another lady came over and told me that she could not help me as they have no ability to add the rifles because they do not work for British Airways and are also contracted employees.
4 travelers/hunters all booked with the same travel agent at the same time.
2 permits showed and mine(traveling with the wife and so guns are in my name) unfortunately did not. I tell the other 2 to continue checking in and I would retreat home to figure it out.
At 9:45PM our friends inform us that they finally got checked in after 2 1/2 hours and were on the plane. Problem is that the AirTags on the rifle and bags show that they did not make the flight.
Currently looking at flying with Turkish/Quatar/Emirates out of Los Angeles to get this party started.
Avoid British Airways like the plague…

HH
Sorry to hear. Were you supposed to be on BA Metal the entire way? Did you try the BA Number in NYC?
 
Travel update(I HATE BRITISH AIRWAYS)
We arrived at Business Class checkin counter 3 hours before the flight from Las Vegas. I knew we had a problem when I walked up to the agent, and he looked at us like we had four eyes. I informed him that we were traveling to Johannesburg with rifles, and proceeded to show him the documentation for this. After typing in his computer for what was 15 minutes, but seemed like an hour, he informed us that we had never made the request to have weapons on board, and that British Airways requires 48 hour notice. I then proceeded to show him screenshots from British Airways showing our approval as I always have documentation before any trip printed out with me. This did not persuade him one bit. Asked to speak to a supervisor and after about 30 minutes, another lady came over and told me that she could not help me as they have no ability to add the rifles because they do not work for British Airways and are also contracted employees.
4 travelers/hunters all booked with the same travel agent at the same time.
2 permits showed and mine(traveling with the wife and so guns are in my name) unfortunately did not. I tell the other 2 to continue checking in and I would retreat home to figure it out.
At 9:45PM our friends inform us that they finally got checked in after 2 1/2 hours and were on the plane. Problem is that the AirTags on the rifle and bags show that they did not make the flight.
Currently looking at flying with Turkish/Quatar/Emirates out of Los Angeles to get this party started.
Avoid British Airways like the plague…

HH
I agree. Avoid BA at all costs. Qatar has been decent with guns - so far. Let us know if you get it sorted. Good luck.
 
I will start by saying I fly BA long haul almost yearly. I just don’t understand the BA hate. It is a much better airline then any USA carrier and the new BA suite in Business is great and their Premium Eco is a very good product. Also they have a great Frequent Flyer program. I would tie it with Alaskan. Now if your comparing their soft product with say Emirates, then I would say their soft product does not come close.

I do agree that the contract check-in agents leave much to be desired, but lots of carriers use the same business model.

It’s simple to carry a gun on BA but expensive. Yes you can count of the agents at JNB to screw it up, but your weapon will make it with your stateside paperwork.

I am flying Qatar in October because I am on a paid ticket and not a “free” ticket. I may do a review of BA, Lufthansa, Emirates, Qatar, Turkish Business and Eco long haul products. I can tell you as far a short haul BA, Lufthansa/Austrian, Turkish are not any better then any USA carrier.

Sorry for the continued hijacking of the thread.
 
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