Safaris at auctions

I have looked at auction hunts at SCI, DSC etc., most of them seem not worth it (mostly cull hunts) compared to what one could get at this site through regular advertised hunts for about the same cost.

I'd agree with that if we're talking about hunting in Africa (although I haven't noticed mostly cull hunts.. ).. most auctions for Africa hunts I've seen go at prices at or above retail and you end up confined to what you bought rather than having the flexibility of something you just work out directly with an outfitter..

Where I see most of the true deals are the hunts that get a lot less attention at somewhere like SCI or DSC (South America, Europe, etc)..
 
I have looked at auction hunts at SCI, DSC etc., most of them seem not worth it (mostly cull hunts) compared to what one could get at this site through regular advertised hunts for about the same cost.
I agree with that but the one hunt I did bid on and won was for a roan and didn’t think at the time I could afford a full fair roan. As I’ve said this one did work out great.
 
I’ve won and gone on 2 auction hunts. Both had their highs and lows. If I had it to do over I’d do them both again. Paid less than half of their “regular “ retail. Like what has been said know what your buying.
Bruce
 
I have had wonderful experiences with the 2 hunts that I have bought at SCI auctions.

Just try your best to do your research before you bid.

I bought my 10-day trip for 2 hunters, and 4 trophy fees for $750 with Adansonia Safaris in Limpopo without any research at the Atlanta SCI banquet and it worked out great.


I tried to do my best at researching Legadema' s donation of a safari to Mozambique to the Georgia Chapter of SCI in 2019, but couldn't get any intel.

I bought it anyway for $945. In hindsight, I would have given $10,000 for it.


I will be the first to admit, that I got lucky.

Get the donation list as far in advance as possible, do your research, and make a well-informed bid, would be my best advise.

If it seems too good to be true, but you can afford to throw the money away, heck, take the chance.

It worked out perfectly for me, two times!
 
It's like anything do your research on the outfitter and understand what you are bidding. The biggest issue I have is I am usually booked up 2 years in advance and can't take advantage of the ones I know are good deals.
 
Thanks for all the great advice and your experiences. Hopefully my local chapter will provide the list of auction items well in advance to allow proper due diligence.
 
I do Fundraisers for DU & NWTF across Oklahoma and Texas. Read what's included what "NOT". If you know about the auction ahead of time Call them. If you see it night of check the web site and reviews.
I sell dozens for Kuche Safaries and they have treated every winner like kings. I have yet to hear anything bad about them. I have also sold a few from Somerby and the same here. Yes they are for the cheaper plains game but they are all trophy quality. These guys especially Kuche have raised many $100's of thousands of dollars for conservation.
 
I've never done an auction hunt or trip of any kind. How in the world would I know the real reason the outfitter is doing an auction hunt in the first place! No doubt some turn out fine, no problems, but... there is a long list of reports and sad stories of shady deals originating through the auction process. Questions that come to mind include: Are they loss leader because the outfitter isn't getting enough business to begin with (contrasted with many outfitters who through reputation and simple word of mouth are booked a year or two in advance and have no need for loss leader hunts?). Are they simply a benevolent gesture done in good faith for a worthy cause or charity? Etc.

Once you relinquish your status as full paying customer, you have to accept the status as a "discounted" customer and the consequences of being a discounted customer whatever that may be. "U pays u money and u takes u chances", as someone once said. :)
 
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Questions that come to mind include: Are they loss leader because the outfitter isn't getting enough business to begin with (contrasted with many outfitters who through reputation and simple word of mouth are booked a year or two in advance and have no need for loss leader hunts?). Are they simply a benevolent gesture done in good faith for a worthy cause or charity? Etc.

All valid questions and the answers depend on many factors that must be considered..

Most, if not all the major sportsman's convention shows usually require a donation from new outfitters in order to get booth space. This doesn't mean that the outfitter isn't reputable or that the hunt can't be a good value, but there is a misconception that organizations like the SCI, DCS, etc.,. vet these donors.. They do not, so you must do your research and contact the outfitter to get all of the details before bidding.

Some outfitters do offer donations hunts primarily as a promotional tool, however, many very reputable outfitters also offer donation hunts each season to genuinely support the host organizations. With a little research you would actually find many extremely reputable outfitters with excellent reputations and a waiting list that regularly offer donation hunts. Host organizations like the SCI, DSC, HSC, etc., actually prefer donations from these types of outfitters over the entry level donations because they often generate the highest bids precisely because they are from desired outfits with excellent reputations. The higher the hunts goes for, the more the host raises..

There is excellent marketing value in hunt donations for both new outfits trying to generate business as well as established outfits that are donating for both brand recognition as well as lending their support to the host conservation organization. This is especially true of the outfitters willing to offer donation hunts at 100% donation with no reserve meaning that 100% of the winning bid goes to the host organization. Not all donations are 100%, and some also have a reserve bid that must be met.. How much goes to the host organization is something that should be asked especially if your main interest is supporting the conservation efforts of said organization through your donation.

I personally have gone on several donation hunts both in the US and internationally, and I have been very pleased with the outcomes. However, I also did my due diligence in researching the outfitter, contacting them prior to the auction and asking them all the relevant questions. I end up passing on the majority of the hunts that interest me because they don't meet my needs or expectations for all the various reasons, but there is some excellent value to be had if you do your homework prior to the bidding.

The worst stories I have heard nearly all have the same common denominator which is that the winning bidder had a few too many cocktails at the fundraising dinner and bid on a hunt without researching the outfit to later find out they did not get the deal they thought they did... If you make that mistake, you need to settle for the satisfaction of supporting what is hopefully a good cause and chalk it up to a lesson learned.
 
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Many things to look out for. Is it a 100% donation hunt or does the organization kick back some of the proceeds. Is the “donation” really a donation or is the outfitter marking it up inflated trophy fees, pick up fees, etc. I have bought an Elk hunt, 100% donation hunt no it went well, but for a few thousand more I could have gone elsewhere for a chance for a higher scoring elk.
 

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